[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 872 Discussion and 873 Predictions

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Bege's role is done (for now), and it was interesting. Also liked the little Cesar vs Nami, makes me wonder where CC is off to.
I m sure CC will hang around with Luffy and Co.till Wano arc. He still needs Law to fix his heart thing into his body.
I was kinda disappointed that CC didn't created some type of gas weapon. It would have been a easy way to distract BM's crew who are behind SHs at present.
And Bege's departure was quite funny. His crew seems to admire SHs and could come handy in future when Luffy declares war on Marie jois and WG.
 

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BM going crazy right now seems like a lazy cop out.
Ikr, felt a tad forced, especially the timing. Though it's possible some BM pirates will stay behind to mitigate the damage she'll cause, while others go after the SH/Fire tank, that'll be a way to keep Smoothie's power hidden and would make the situation feel kinda normal. There's also the possibility Chopper and Brook will run into BM pirates.

OT: was a good chapter (not great).
Bege's role is done (for now), and it was interesting. Also liked the little Cesar vs Nami, makes me wonder where CC is off to.
Where tf did Germa go? We got Ichiji saying "there they go, huh" makes it seem like he expected something (or he'll miss them - showing emotions).
Just as Howlett said.. it doesn't feel forced or off or a cop out at all.. we literally saw her doing this in the beginning of the arc.. now if the arc ends with her in this state, it'll be a nice full circle type of writing done by Oda.



I m sure CC will hang around with Luffy and Co.till Wano arc. He still needs Law to fix his heart thing into his body.
I was kinda disappointed that CC didn't created some type of gas weapon. It would have been a easy way to distract BM's crew who are behind SHs at present.
And Bege's departure was quite funny. His crew seems to admire SHs and could come handy in future when Luffy declares war on Marie jois and WG.
Yeah I agree.. I can see Ceasar ending up back with the SH's.. it'll add THAT much more comedy to their relationship with him.. if anything I could see them officially parting ways by the end of Wano.
 
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Man I'm starting to get really annoyed by Smoothie, like seriously I'm in awe at how lazy she is. Oda how are you going to make her a SC and not know how to handle her? She's literally all talk and nothing else, she hasn't done anything all arc.

I really hope BM doesn't go eating all her children that would suck.

Was a pretty good chapter, I'm so glad this arc is wrapping up can't wait for reverie and Wano hopefully they live up to the hype.
 

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Man I'm starting to get really annoyed by Smoothie, like seriously I'm in awe at how lazy she is. Oda how are you going to make her a SC and not know how to handle her? She's literally all talk and nothing else, she hasn't done anything all arc.

I really hope BM doesn't go eating all her children that would suck.

Was a pretty good chapter, I'm so glad this arc is wrapping up can't wait for reverie and Wano hopefully they live up to the hype.
The BM pirates are coming back later, obviously you'll see her do more shit then.
 

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Brook looking badass in that cover.

Okay chapter, hyped for next chapter. It seems like all the other manga series coming out this week in WSJ will have a One Piece reference in it. MHA/RxL/Black Clover/Haikyuu!!/Shokugeki No Soma already had them.
 

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We all knew (or at least some of us knew) that Luffy wasn't defeating a yonko this arc, so this arc was pretty much just a rescue and escape arc.

Only progression this arc made:

>The SH's possibly got a new crewmate(Jimbei).
>They recovered a new ponyglyph by Brook
>Luffy's bounty is sure to raise like shit after the impact he made on WCI and with BM.
>Sanji was rescued but it was more of his resolve with the Vinsmokes and his father.

If BM is indeed going after Luffy now, this will be more hype for Luffy when it comes to the world government.

Overall this chapter was boring as hell, but I am just glad we are finally ending it, and I can't wait to see the impact that this will have on Luffy and his crew.

Also, if a yonko is after Luffy now and his bounty raises, this should give Luffy some sense to train more and get stronger.
 

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I disagree entirely. Not only is getting Sanji back and the Poneglyph MAJOR developments, but they also got a new crewmember in Jinbei. Also, this changes the dynamic of Luffy's feud with Big Mom, as now she'll likely be pursuing him as an Emperor would do, a conflict the crew has never faced before.
I said the overall story. Saying that getting Sanji back is a major development is a farce. Sanji has been a Strawhat for over 700 consecutive characters. The Strawhats were already separated halfway through the Dressrosa arc, they are still separated and being in separate groups is nothing new. Sanji originally didn't say either he left the crew, just that he was gone for a while. Only during the arc itself he officially left, but that was quickly resolved afterwards. So nothing really changed as the problems only occurred during the arc itself. Sanji permanently leaving, now that would have been a major development and be realistic here, no one doubted he would remain a strawhat.

In fact seen from a global perspective it can be said that the whole Sanji thing has halted the story as everything is more or less the same before and after the arc when it concerns Sanji. Yes for Sanji as an individual character this arc was very important, but for the story not so much. At least as it stands now as it's always possible Oda gives it a twist in the future, but currently: no.

And yes they have now two new Poneglyph which will be an important key in the long run, however tell me how much time was spent on them? How much panels or attention did they receive? Not much, huh. If it was just the Poneglyph, this arc should have been wrapped up a long time ago. So again this is not really that major.

BM being mad at the Strawhats? She was already mad, she was going to crush/hunt them either way, something she specifically said to Luffy on FI. Yes she's now way more pissed, but again in the end that doesn't matter that much. You didn't need an entire arc for that as she was obliged to pursue them sooner or later either way.

Jinbei? Yes him becoming an official member is quite a big deal, but truthfully Jinbei was already in the zone of being part of Luffy's forces to the point many people were already considering him to be a member. There is definitely a difference between Jinbei being an actual crew member traveling with them and him just being an ally, but again compared to the length of this arc Jinbei's joining is only a subplot that already had been brewing all the way back since Marineford arc.

What I'm talking about there is the arc as a whole, not some individual, isolated events, and yes this arc still very well misses a result. Two of the things you said are really not correct as BM's animosity and Sanji's situation are more or less the same before and after the arc and the poneglyph and Jinbei are really not in proportion to the entire arc. The fact that the Strawhats had everything you just listed already before the climax of this arc, pretty much proves my point. If BM destroys the island and kills half of her crew, well that definitely will have some nasty consequences for her in the near future and she became like that due to everything that occurred during the arc.
 

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And yes they have now two new Poneglyph which will be an important key in the long run, however tell me how much time was spent on them? How much panels or attention did they receive? Not much, huh. If it was just the Poneglyph, this arc should have been wrapped up a long time ago. So again this is not really that major.
This fails to be relevant, not to mention inaccurate. An entire segment of the chapter where they met Raizo in Zou was dedicated to explaining the Poneglyphs, so pages spending on the Poneglyph itself would have been redundant. Instead, Oda focused on the actions revolving around the Poneglyph info being taken, i.e., Brook doing the rubbings, Smoothie reporting it, Brook fighting Homies, fighting Big Mom, and then his friends sneaking him out of Big Mom's bed. All of that revolved around the Poneglyph story. Just because the Poneglyph or its contents were shown over and over doesn't mean time wasn't spent on that storyline. Not to mention that even if what you're saying was accurate, that wouldn't change that having that info is a major progression to the story of One Piece since that information is key to finding the thing itself.

BM being mad at the Strawhats? She was already mad, she was going to crush/hunt them either way, something she specifically said to Luffy on FI. Yes she's now way more pissed, but again in the end that doesn't matter that much. You didn't need an entire arc for that as she was obliged to pursue them sooner or later either way.
No she wasn't going to hunt them. Big Mom told Luffy "Come to me in the New World." Before the Strawhats wrecked the wedding, Big Mom wasn't pursuing the Strawhats. She already had bad blood with them, but was content with letting them show up whenever they wanted to to face her wrath. Now, she has incentive to actively pursue them, rather than sit around waiting for them to come to her. That situation has pulled a complete 180 change, and it's a conflict the Strawhats have never faced before.

Jinbei? Yes him becoming an official member is quite a big deal, but truthfully Jinbei was already in the zone of being part of Luffy's forces to the point many people were already considering him to be a member. There is definitely a difference between Jinbei being an actual crew member traveling with them and him just being an ally, but again compared to the length of this arc Jinbei's joining is only a subplot that already had been brewing all the way back since Marineford arc.
We knew Jinbei was going to join, but that's irrelevant to him actually joining. It's like saying Zoro defeating Mihawk isn't plot development because fans already knew it was going to happen. It was a subplot that was brewing for a while, but the subplot actually culminating in Jinbei formally joining(he declared himself a member of their crew and parted ways with his crew explicitly telling them that he's doing so to be in Luffy's crew) is still an advancement of the story forward.

What I'm talking about there is the arc as a whole, not some individual, isolated events, and yes this arc still very well misses a result. Two of the things you said are really not correct as BM's animosity and Sanji's situation are more or less the same before and after the arc and the poneglyph and Jinbei are really not in proportion to the entire arc.
You have a point with the Sanji situation(unless it ends with the Germa aiding the SHs in some way), but the Big Mom situation has changed drastically as I mentioned above and Jinbei going from "I'll join someday" to "I'm joining now," is still an advancement of the story.
The fact that the Strawhats had everything you just listed already before the climax of this arc, pretty much proves my point.
No the hell it doesn't? Major plot advancement does not come solely at the climax of an arc. That is a super flawed view that will only generate an inadequate opinion. You have to look at before the arc as a whole, and after the arc as a whole. Before the arc, the Strawhats didn't have Jinbei officially in the crew, Big Mom wasn't pursuing them, and they didn't have information on the Poneglyph that leads directly to the One Piece. So yes, this arc did have major progression on the overall story of One Piece.
 

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The very first thing we saw Big Mom do this arc was go into a frenzy because of her cravings. Her backstory revolved around multiple instances of her freaking out due to her hunger cravings, and was the pivotal reason behind her falling out with Elbaf. It was alluded to through the arc and the tea party. It's not at all as random and cop-outish as y'all claim when it's been a major theme of this arc since the beginning and has appeared or been alluded to numerous times.



Except Luffy smashing the cake did get a reaction out of Big Mom. Did you forget when she was stunned and in that confused state where they said she didn't know what to be mad at? It's not like Big Mom ignored the cake and then randomly and suddenly snapped into a frenzy later with no allusions to it during the wedding or before. Especially when she was focused on attacking, and now that there's a pause, it makes more sense for her frenzy to start now, especially since the craving would be building up throughout the fight along with her frustrations.

It makes perfect sense that Big Mom would snap again with her craving building up, her anger increasing, and the Strawhats escaping before she could get even with them, rather than an instant "I WANT CAKE gruaabb." The writing is better this way.
Having it at this point didn't make it better, it was like there was no trigger (it seemed to have been triggered by tasting Streusen's cake), also makes me wonder if she'll be in a frenzy if she had successfully executed Luffy.

Essentially, she's calm enough to attack Luffy, it's when he escapes that she was made to remember her cake, potentially stalling her own crew. It's just too easy.
 
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Having it at this point didn't make it better, it was like there was no trigger (it seemed to have been triggered by tasting Streusen's cake), also makes me wonder if she'll be in a frenzy if she had successfully executed Luffy.

Essentially, she's calm enough to attack Luffy, it's when he escapes that she was made to remember her cake, potentially stalling her own crew. It's just too easy.
You have to factor in the fact that the plateau is collapsing and the Strawhats are escaping, adding to her frustrations. Her ignoring the craving because she's taking out her frustrations via execution is perfectly sensible, as is her giving into her craving frenzy because her building frustration means she's no longer distracted from it.
 

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I also love those update chapters where old friends look at their wanted posters, Shanks laughing his ass off because Luffy did something stupid again. Also wonder what Dragon thinks of this.

Dragon also has to show up at the reverie right ? Just to stir things up.

Monkey family throwing the world into turmoil.
Yea bro I'm so ready to see how Dragon and sabo are doing especially after they lost that battle..

Also this seems like the first time luffy and co. Are destroying a island instead of saving it like dressrosa ...

You guys still think we will see kaido vs bigmom or do u think luffy will make it to him first?? I hope bigmom eats some of her subordinates I hate her lol.

I'm so hyped for wano tho... let's go zoro!!!!
 
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