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...was it just implied BM unknowingly cannibalized her entire foster family, absorbed mother Caramel's DF power that way and is either in permanent denial or still completely oblivious about all of this?
 

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No way, there's no way she ate everyone, is there ? There'd be blood ? They'd have tasted different ? wth ??!! WTH ! ! !!11 !!one!

i'm glad about the twist about mother caramel being a child dealer, this is so "one piece-backstory-like"

I have a feeling selma's will play a role into taking down BM.

The flashback only lasted 2 chps which is great :bouncy: let's go back to the brawl!
 

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...was it just implied BM unknowingly cannibalized her entire foster family, absorbed mother Caramel's DF power that way and is either in permanent denial or still completely oblivious about all of this?
Yes it was, i dont think oda would emphasize "eat as much as you want", "vanished into thin air" and "i even chopped on the table a few times" otherwise

And as BM is simple minded it looks like she still has no clue

What im interested in atm is 1. Whats up with prometheus and the "pandora" and how zeus came to be, and 2. Just how exactly BB stole WBs power, did he consume skme of his DNA? This was a yuuuuuge chapter in that regard
 
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Damn.... I can't believe what I'm seeing lol... did Oda really just show us that Big Mom, a.k.a. LinLin, ended up eating all of them???? Holy crap lmaooo xd that's some sick and twisted shit right there.. lol such a dark turn that flashback took.

Oh, and looking at the island they moved to, the hills in the background look very similar to how Whole Cake island looks.. so it appears Big Mom chose to make that island WCI.. pretty cool..

The only thing I'm a little disappointed about, is that I really thought Mother Caramel was going to end up being Ms. Bakkins.. Oh well... I'm not mad.. cause once again Oda delivers us a crazy turn of events.
 

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Youse are forgetting, hajrudin is still alive and well. Hence she didnt eat everybody but that does bring up the interesting story of how, 'if big mom really did eat her family' , how did Hajrudin survive?

Second notes. Gave this chapter a 5 because it blew my expectations. Plus I thought we'd get at least one more flashback chapter lol.

Time for Sanji and the rest of the strawhats to kick assss
 

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Youse are forgetting, hajrudin is still alive and well. Hence she didnt eat everybody but that does bring up the interesting story of how, 'if big mom really did eat her family' , how did Hajrudin survive?

Second notes. Gave this chapter a 5 because it blew my expectations. Plus I thought we'd get at least one more flashback chapter lol.

Time for Sanji and the rest of the strawhats to kick assss
Hajrudin wasn't one of the orphans, he was simply an infant giant who interacted sometimes with the children and mother Caramel as they lived on the same island. When they left, he logically didn't go with them. Not to mention he wanted BM to be killed.
 

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Holy shit, this chapter both in backstory as in information about the devil fruits, the underground and Elbaf is packed !

Breaking the sword of a giant with her arm at the age of 5. This wedding will be messy.
 

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Anyone else notice how much that giant looks like Kaido?

Holy shit, this chapter both in backstory as in information about the devil fruits, the underground and Elbaf is packed !

Breaking the sword of a giant with her arm at the age of 5. This wedding will be messy.
Doesn't matter brah, Luffy is like, totally gonna kick her ass brah, #radical
 

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I told ya she ate them. So many questions though. Carmel had BM's fruit first then? But why the chanting and incantation if it's a fruit, is it part of the act? Did BM accidentally/coincidentally eat the same fruit or did she hunt for it since it was Carmel's? Did she even eat a DF or did she get the powers by eating Carmel? Is that sun Prometheus and BM renames him or does she make her own?

I still think it's weird her 5 year old rampage is shown to be more impressive than her most recent rampage at WCI. I like kid LinLin better than older LinLin, her nose is better proportioned.
 
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No way, there's no way she ate everyone, is there ? There'd be blood ? They'd have tasted different ? wth ??!! WTH ! ! !!11 !!one!

i'm glad about the twist about mother caramel being a child dealer, this is so "one piece-backstory-like"

I have a feeling selma's will play a role into taking down BM.

The flashback only lasted 2 chps which is great :bouncy: let's go back to the brawl!
When BM has an eating frenzy, she loses all sense of awareness. We've seen that before, so that she wouldn't notice eating all of her friends, well I find that easy to believe. The lack of blood I don't find an issue either as putting aside it might have been too graphical and too obvious (I can't shake the thought that there might be more to this all than just BM accidentally cannibalizing everyone), she's quite big, so she possibly could swallow whole people.

It's indeed odd though that no one would have gotten away. In particular Caramel as she's a DF user and a veteran underworld figure. You would think she would have the skills to escape from a child that's lost in her appetite for food. On top of that it doesn't seem BM left her position, so you would assume at least some of the kids would have been able to escape.

Yeah there's still something about all of this that I find fishy.

Perhaps Prometheus was actually created by Caramel? If so, he might tell Big Mom.
If that was the case, I think he had plenty of time to tell.

Yes it was, i dont think oda would emphasize "eat as much as you want", "vanished into thin air" and "i even chopped on the table a few times" otherwise

And as BM is simple minded it looks like she still has no clue

What im interested in atm is 1. Whats up with prometheus and the "pandora" and how zeus came to be, and 2. Just how exactly BB stole WBs power, did he consume skme of his DNA? This was a yuuuuuge chapter in that regard
Jumping from this to BB and WB I find at this point still a bit of a stretch. Personally I don't believe there is a (direct) connection. If consuming a bit of DNA would have been enough to gain the power of a DF, I think that would have been discovered a long time ago.

And we already knew how Prometheus and Zeus were made and now we saw it once again with Pandora: infusing a part of your soul with it. At this point I believe Pandora and Prometheus are not the same entities and I think there's little doubt that Caramel ate the exact same DF as BM. Then just remains as to how BM ate that fruit as I find it hard to believe she accidentally bumped into the same DF. So the most logical conclusion is that she somehow absorbed it when she supposedly consumed Caramel, but then of course the question remains as how she couldn't have noticed it. She knows she has DF powers, but if you suddenly get them that means you must have eaten a DF at one point and if it's the same DF as Caramel, well then she should have known her fate. Unless she never knew that Caramel was a DF user in the first place.
 

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When BM has an eating frenzy, she loses all sense of awareness. We've seen that before, so that she wouldn't notice eating all of her friends, well I find that easy to believe. The lack of blood I don't find an issue either as putting aside it might have been too graphical and too obvious (I can't shake the thought that there might be more to this all than just BM accidentally cannibalizing everyone), she's quite big, so she possibly could swallow whole people.

It's indeed odd though that no one would have gotten away. In particular Caramel as she's a DF user and a veteran underworld figure. You would think she would have the skills to escape from a child that's lost in her appetite for food. On top of that it doesn't seem BM left her position, so you would assume at least some of the kids would have been able to escape.

Yeah there's still something about all of this that I find fishy.



If that was the case, I think he had plenty of time to tell.



Jumping from this to BB and WB I find at this point still a bit of a stretch. Personally I don't believe there is a (direct) connection. If consuming a bit of DNA would have been enough to gain the power of a DF, I think that would have been discovered a long time ago.

And we already knew how Prometheus and Zeus were made and now we saw it once again with Pandora: infusing a part of your soul with it. At this point I believe Pandora and Prometheus are not the same entities and I think there's little doubt that Caramel ate the exact same DF as BM. Then just remains as to how BM ate that fruit as I find it hard to believe she accidentally bumped into the same DF. So the most logical conclusion is that she somehow absorbed it when she supposedly consumed Caramel, but then of course the question remains as how she couldn't have noticed it. She knows she has DF powers, but if you suddenly get them that means you must have eaten a DF at one point and if it's the same DF as Caramel, well then she should have known her fate. Unless she never knew that Caramel was a DF user in the first place.
Yeah I agree with you.. there's something a little off about this whole thing..

But yeah, there's no reason for her to have known Mother Caramel had a DF.. let alone what kind. At least, nothing within the flashback we saw hints at it.


I really thought Mother Caramel would turn out to be Ms. Bakkins.. but idk how it will all work out in the end. I cant wait for Oda to reveal everything in detail.
 

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When BM has an eating frenzy, she loses all sense of awareness. We've seen that before, so that she wouldn't notice eating all of her friends, well I find that easy to believe. The lack of blood I don't find an issue either as putting aside it might have been too graphical and too obvious (I can't shake the thought that there might be more to this all than just BM accidentally cannibalizing everyone), she's quite big, so she possibly could swallow whole people.

It's indeed odd though that no one would have gotten away. In particular Caramel as she's a DF user and a veteran underworld figure. You would think she would have the skills to escape from a child that's lost in her appetite for food. On top of that it doesn't seem BM left her position, so you would assume at least some of the kids would have been able to escape.

Yeah there's still something about all of this that I find fishy.



If that was the case, I think he had plenty of time to tell.



Jumping from this to BB and WB I find at this point still a bit of a stretch. Personally I don't believe there is a (direct) connection. If consuming a bit of DNA would have been enough to gain the power of a DF, I think that would have been discovered a long time ago.

And we already knew how Prometheus and Zeus were made and now we saw it once again with Pandora: infusing a part of your soul with it. At this point I believe Pandora and Prometheus are not the same entities and I think there's little doubt that Caramel ate the exact same DF as BM. Then just remains as to how BM ate that fruit as I find it hard to believe she accidentally bumped into the same DF. So the most logical conclusion is that she somehow absorbed it when she supposedly consumed Caramel, but then of course the question remains as how she couldn't have noticed it. She knows she has DF powers, but if you suddenly get them that means you must have eaten a DF at one point and if it's the same DF as Caramel, well then she should have known her fate. Unless she never knew that Caramel was a DF user in the first place.
Damn i didn't notice how big she is compared to the others (page 15) ! :WAT:

Maybe there was a fruit nearby the party, and, after she ate mother caramel, the devil fruit popped there and she ate it too during her frenzy
 

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Prediction Big mom will mostly likely go on a rampage on the party making it a free for all, in this chapter we saw big mom or i guess linlin who seemed to have a fat boy that loves cake to much that she also ate everyone/carmel(mom) and then believed to have been abandon rather than that she just killled everyone.

and knowing luffy he never runs away from a fight so....this will be fun.
 
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