[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 843 Discussion and 844 Predictions

[Punk Hazard]

... If im not mistaken... Wouldnt coating your hands in haki during the explosion of the handcuffs ... save him?

Yup. This handcuff shit don't make much sense, but I'm kinda tryna ignore it.

 

[BusinessManTeno]

Yup. This handcuff shit don't make much sense, but I'm kinda tryna ignore it.

I think soo too. lol

Sanji was shown to be stronger than his father...and defeat his little brother with ease.. If his father > kids then luffy im sure can take out his brothers with ease.. i dont think the sister would get into it..

 

[ToshiZO]

Yeah, but Sanji is most likely gonna use this as an opportunity to talk, and Luffy is severely weakened. It's not quite the real deal, unfortunately ;--;

Not after he puts on a show for the family first.

I don't mind Luffy being weakened too much its a decent handicap for Sanji that way, not to mention don't be fooled by Sanji's appearance he actually looks like this right now

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Inner crew turmoil = One Piece at its best.

@handcuffs, hate that, weak plot device at best.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Not after he puts on a show for the family first.

I don't mind Luffy being weakened too much its a decent handicap for Sanji that way, not to mention don't be fooled by Sanji's appearance he actually looks like this right now

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Inner crew turmoil = One Piece at its best.

@handcuffs, hate that, weak plot device at best.

Oh yeah, I completely forgot that Sanji is like that. Maybe Luffy will punch off the mask by accident to knock some sense into him, see the injuries, then get furious at the Vinsmokes.

 

[Kiiszame]

That's what I love about this chapter. The whole Dragon-can-control-the-weather thing has always annoyed me. Not that it's not possible, but at this point that theory has only circumstantial elements going for it, but people act like it's almost a fact. So if now Big Mum can control the weather to such a degree, that Dragon can do it too suddenly becomes less likely unless it's a non-DF related ability.
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Anime Episode 737: Dragon rescues Sabo and everyone is panicking on the boat because they cant find dragon. A gust of winds blows into the ship and you see dragon land with small gusts of wind near his feet.
He doesnt control weather. He more likely posses a Logia wind type. At least thats what Ive always thought.

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[video=youtube;Rp1MGR_o2XA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp1MGR_o2XA[/video]

skip to 2;22 for evidence.

To me that an air logia. Wind logia or whatever.

 

[HashiraMadara]

Fighting Sanji is nothing compared to what Luffy has had against Doffy. Sanji is just few miles behind Luffy when it comes to Haki.

Doffy fodderised Sanji XDXDXDXD

 

[Caliburn]

Anime Episode 737: Dragon rescues Sabo and everyone is panicking on the boat because they cant find dragon. A gust of winds blows into the ship and you see dragon land with small gusts of wind near his feet.
He doesnt control weather. He more likely posses a Logia wind type. At least thats what Ive always thought.

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[video=youtube;Rp1MGR_o2XA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp1MGR_o2XA[/video]

skip to 2;22 for evidence.

To me that an air logia. Wind logia or whatever.

This is exactly one of the things that annoy me. That is no proof, no evidence, not even remotely. This is a prime example of what I described as a circumstantial element. It's enough to formulate a hypothesis about the potential DF Dragon might have eaten, but as evidence this is laughable. This is of same level as someone spotting an object in the sky which he can't recognize and claims that that is proof of the existence of UFO's. You see some wind gusts of which the origins are unclear, but then you say it's evidence?

For all we know that might have just been the animators/Oda wanting to have Dragon a bit of a dramatic entrance. Or maybe Dragon knows Skywalk? Or maybe one of his subordinates has such a power and used it to tilt Dragon on the ship when he saw him standing beside the ship? Or maybe Dragon has dials from Skypea that were incorporated in his equipment?

Not to mention a wind DF is already a different theory than a weather/dragon DF, the bottom line is though that many people are talking about proof and evidence and now are going 'how can Big Mum control the weather while that's Dragon's power?' like it are proven facts, while in reality that's very well not the case.

 

[Wizard_Impressive]

Sanji gonna get an ass whooping or plot will make him win.

what anime is that in your sig pwease?
OT damm i honestly can't wait till sanji gets back at his family for all this shit they put him thru they even got eyes for his bish now XD

 

[Mori Jin]

what anime is that in your sig pwease?
OT damm i honestly can't wait till sanji gets back at his family for all this shit they put him thru they even got eyes for his bish now XD

It's a manhwa called The God Of Highschool

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[Kiiszame]

This is exactly one of the things that annoy me. That is no proof, no evidence, not even remotely. This is a prime example of what I described as a circumstantial element. It's enough to formulate a hypothesis about the potential DF Dragon might have eaten, but as evidence this is laughable. This is of same level as someone spotting an object in the sky which he can't recognize and claims that that is proof of the existence of UFO's. You see some wind gusts of which the origins are unclear, but then you say it's evidence?

For all we know that might have just been the animators/Oda wanting to have Dragon a bit of a dramatic entrance. Or maybe Dragon knows Skywalk? Or maybe one of his subordinates has such a power and used it to tilt Dragon on the ship when he saw him standing beside the ship? Or maybe Dragon has dials from Skypea that were incorporated in his equipment?

Not to mention a wind DF is already a different theory than a weather/dragon DF, the bottom line is though that many people are talking about proof and evidence and now are going 'how can Big Mum control the weather while that's Dragon's power?' like it are proven facts, while in reality that's very well not the case.

Does sky walk make gusts of wind? No. How is it laughable? What person enters any place and air just suddenly appears? This good evidence to use for arguement of that nature. I doubt one of his subordinates did anything of that nature at that moment in time as the only notible people on that ship were already seen to be Kuma and Ivan.
All the things you said are more laughable. What if God saw him enter and made wind around him for kicks?

Cmon now. To me the logical conclusion of a man levitating with gusts of win around his feat points towards a power that incorporates wind.

Nothing is a proven fact for Dragon yet. But saying something like that doesn't constitute as some kind of proof is silly. Let's just ignore it then. The creators put that their because it's Dragon and he's awesome let's make all his entrances great. Next time he enters volcanoes will erupt. Or maybe the sky will turn pink.

Anyways Big Moms ability to control the weather is an ability she probably figured out from acquiring the souls of things that already could that.

 

[Love Cook]

Does sky walk make gusts of wind? No. How is it laughable? What person enters any place and air just suddenly appears? This good evidence to use for arguement of that nature. I doubt one of his subordinates did anything of that nature at that moment in time as the only notible people on that ship were already seen to be Kuma and Ivan.
All the things you said are more laughable. What if God saw him enter and made wind around him for kicks?

Cmon now. To me the logical conclusion of a man levitating with gusts of win around his feat points towards a power that incorporates wind.

Nothing is a proven fact for Dragon yet. But saying something like that doesn't constitute as some kind of proof is silly. Let's just ignore it then. The creators put that their because it's Dragon and he's awesome let's make all his entrances great. Next time he enters volcanoes will erupt. Or maybe the sky will turn pink.

Anyways Big Moms ability to control the weather is an ability she probably figured out from acquiring the souls of things that already could that.

Well sky walk does leave small shockwave circles in the air but they are more violent than Dragon's landing here. However I think the landing is a bit exaggerated by the animators because it appears he is riding a gust of wind down on to the ship. But the manga panel doesn't indicate that at all.

There is some white coming of Dragon which could be a number things. It could be smoke as he just came out of a burning area, or steam or wind. But there is nothing to go on there for now.

And to call the anime 'evidence' is a bit too much. Dragon wind wind abilities is plausible and the anime feeds it in that scene, but it doesn't prove it at all.

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[Caliburn]

Does sky walk make gusts of wind? No. How is it laughable? What person enters any place and air just suddenly appears? This good evidence to use for arguement of that nature. I doubt one of his subordinates did anything of that nature at that moment in time as the only notible people on that ship were already seen to be Kuma and Ivan.
All the things you said are more laughable. What if God saw him enter and made wind around him for kicks?

Cmon now. To me the logical conclusion of a man levitating with gusts of win around his feat points towards a power that incorporates wind.

Nothing is a proven fact for Dragon yet. But saying something like that doesn't constitute as some kind of proof is silly. Let's just ignore it then. The creators put that their because it's Dragon and he's awesome let's make all his entrances great. Next time he enters volcanoes will erupt. Or maybe the sky will turn pink.

Anyways Big Moms ability to control the weather is an ability she probably figured out from acquiring the souls of things that already could that.

Because it's simply laughable as you give enormous value to some small gusts of wind that appeared in a fleeting moment, but then start nitpicking on alternative interpretations. If you would be consistent, you should be like that for what you say yourself too. This is a fictional fantasy world that has been shaped on every front by Oda and he continuously messes around with the scenery, characters etc. to give the readers specific impressions. This is not a world where everything is 100% subjected to the exact same rules and laws, Oda freely can alter things if he wants to, including making an entrance look more dramatic by giving more visual representations of movement.

How could a person fly to the center of a ship full of potential haki users, but no one notices him until he has landed? What you are doing is nitpicking on minor things in a world where nothing is certain while ignoring the major flaws in your own statements. Arguments the nature of "sky walk doesn't make gusts of wind" while the very essence of that move is kicking the air away, are really flimsy and even more so when your own statements are based on some puny little gusts which you automatically use to assume he can levitate. I merely stated an objective truth: those momentary gusts are enough to formulate the hypothesis that Dragon might have eaten a particular DF, I don't say it's impossible, but as proof it's severely lacking. Do you know what evidence is? If you actually see the guy fly in the air, that's evidence.

 

[nanadaime]

Yup. This handcuff shit don't make much sense, but I'm kinda tryna ignore it.

I don't think it's a issue after being cuffed sanji was still fighting back. He didn't submit until they threatened zeff

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[Punk Hazard]

I don't think it's a issue after being cuffed sanji was still fighting back. He didn't submit until they threatened zeff

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When they put the cuffs on him, he seemed stressed about it and was cursing, making it seem like it was a legitimate problem to him.

 

[nanadaime]

When they put the cuffs on him, he seemed stressed about it and was cursing, making it seem like it was a legitimate problem to him.

I would agree but not stressed about the cuffs it seemed to me like it always went back to zeff right after cuffing sanji he tried to remove them even after having it be explained that his hands would be blown off but he didn't seem to care as much until he thought about zeff and his rules so maybe at that moment he felt stupid for letting them find the upper hand so easily.

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Not to mention he was there during sabody so I think he knows haki can save him and as far as zeff goes isn't this type of thing the reason pirates make alliances given sanji knows nothing of the alliance now even if Luffy explained it he wasn't listening but I say send bar to cabbage and the giants to save zeff

 

[TheLegend0713]

Sanji will probably kick Luffy somewhere out of sight of everybody and ask them to warn Zeff. I think once that is done he will be ready to fight back.
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I like this train of thought. I think your reasoning on Sanji's next move is solid. The question to me now is how's Sanji getting out of the bracelets? Again, Law'd solve this problem, if not this entire mission, single-handedly.

 

[Anduril]

I don't understand how Big MoM managed to create a sun....or find a part of it to put her soul in it. The cloud I can understand.

 

[HashiraMadara]

I don't understand how Big MoM managed to create a sun....or find a part of it to put her soul in it. The cloud I can understand.

Yeah that's kinda too Noob, I hope we get a better explanation :| I mean something over 150 000 000 km away *____________*