[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 842 Discussion and 843 Predictions

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"The Power of Fullness"

One Piece Manga Chapter 842 Discussion and 843
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Yeah solid chapter, got some progress on most of the fronts. Brook and Pedro have been missing in action for a while now though, curious how they're doing.

The Vinsmokes healing techniques are interesting but effective, seen it on Yonji before. I like that Sanji's no hurting woman policy is just because he was raised in a good way, not because something terrible happened to his mom like many people speculated. Enough is enough with the tragic backstory. The Vinsmoke's nazi-mobile is an interesting looking thing as they're driving through town.

So Luffy got help of Nami to chew down the biscuits, mystery solved on how he was able to bite through that crazy hard armor. As predicted there are multiple forms of G4, but didn't expect something like this.

I wonder if he always needs to be this fat to achieve this or that he also can do it on a smaller scale in normal form or by using gomu gomu no fuusen first ?

The power is real though, just like boundman he is strong but still rubbery, that must suck to fight.
 

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Hmmmmmm, I enjoyed the chapter. I don't think Cracker is out, but he'll be far away from Luffy and that's enough to conclude the fight.
This was my favourite part of the whole chapter
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"the rule of the universe since before the time if the dinosaurs".

Also, is it just me or is there something unrealistically OP about Luffy's ability to remain rubber while coated in G4 haki. Cos this is the second time people would be surprised by it, he even absorbed a piercing strike with any damage.
 

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Luffy vs Cracker is by far the worst fight in this arc so far.
So disappointing that Oda is treating one of the Yonko's right hand men as a joke.

And this "Tank Man" seems like a one time thing only...just like Nightmare Luffy.
 

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I do see why Luffy was capable of eating the biscuits now, since some Devil Fruits just have natural weakness like Crocodile's sand fruit. But that doesn't change the fact that i'm bummed that Cracker lost, he should've won in my opinion. Nice chapter overall, great to see Zeff again.
 

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This was hilarious!

Oda always makes priceless chapters..


I'm glad we got to see that Gear 4th officially has other forms.. I know a few members guessed about it and wanted it to happen.. I know Riker called it for sure..
Tank Man is a cool concept but I'm curious if there's a Tank Man that's able to be achieved normally, not by eating so much.. it said "full version" after all.. so idk.

Nami's scary face in the beginning made me laugh..

Chopper and Carrot appearing in the reflections made me laugh as well..


I'm a little disappointed though on the "backstory" for Sanji's chivalry though.. like really? That was all? I felt like there should've been more to it, based on how serious Sanji is about it..


Great chapter over all though.. can't wait for Luffy to crash the wedding!
 
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The chapter was absolutely brilliant. Luffy's tank man, for one, is hillarious. Hope its not a one time thing.

But besides from that, is no one gonna mention how badass this piece of "fanart" looked?

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I'm going to harvest some prediction points here, said this in the same chapter discussion thread when gear 4th came out, on 23-04-2015:

Since Luffy says Gear 4th: Boundman !

I wonder if he might have other forms.

Now he obviously chose power over agility like an enhanced G3, maybe he also has an upgraded G2 where he focuses on his legs.

Yes I'm aware I said boundman, that is because the *********** translation is out and it's better.
But in hindsight Boundman might be the agility form (with a big power boost of course) seeing as how fast he moves and can fly. And Tankman might be just an immovable mountain filled with power.
 

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Calm down Love, a lot of people mentioned he might have more forms. Plus the fact Luffy said he needed more than Bound(ce)man for the beasts on the island. He'll probably have at least one more as well.

OT: I loved the chapter, just as good as I expected from the spoilers. Nice to see Luffy blast away an opponent like he used to do(Buggy,Krieg etc)
 

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I completely disliked this chapter just because Oda have 0 respect to cracker. This fight was completely turned into a goof match up when it was suppose to be serious. One piece back at it again with the childish nonsense.
 

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Calm down Love, a lot of people mentioned he might have more forms. Plus the fact Luffy said he needed more than Bound(ce)man for the beasts on the island. He'll probably have at least one more as well.
ho no no no, that is not the same. I said it as the ink of the chapter G4 was presented in was still drying, the translation was still up in the air between boundman and poundman. It was 18 months ago when I said it first on that faithful day in April '15.

It's easy to say that now of course: pssh, there have been a looot of people who said that now that it is true. But I'm the unsung hero of amazing predictions. Rumor has it that Oda keeps an eye out for my posts when he is not sure how to continue the story. Year of Sanji a coincidence ? I think not, it's just a little reward to his source of inspiration.

double prediction points for me.
 

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So...Luffy can't beat Cracker without Nami :/ but that "tank-man" looks funny and strong LMAO! I hope he gets at least one more G4 form since this one is not practic enough.

Also nice to see it's Zeff who taught Sanji not to hit women.Break next week :'( 5/5 for chap though!
 

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So...Luffy can't beat Cracker without Nami :/ but that "tank-man" looks funny and strong LMAO! I hope he gets at least one more G4 form since this one is not practic enough.

Also nice to see it's Zeff who taught Sanji not to hit women.Break next week :'( 5/5 for chap though!
@bold where does this logic come from? Because it happened 1 way in 1 instance it can't happen any other way? Just because Luffy beat Cracker with Nami this time doesn't in any shape or form equate to him not being able to beat Cracker without Nami. Nami just made it easier. Luffy could bring his own water if he ever fought Cracker again like he did against Croc. Luffy and another character might be able to beat him. Luffy might have been able to beat them on his own anyway(though it's unlikely), he did break Cracker's tough biscuits anyway.
 

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@bold where does this logic come from? Because it happened 1 way in 1 instance it can't happen any other way? Just because Luffy beat Cracker with Nami this time doesn't in any shape or form equate to him not being able to beat Cracker without Nami. Nami just made it easier. Luffy could bring his own water if he ever fought Cracker again like he did against Croc. Luffy and another character might be able to beat him. Luffy might have been able to beat them on his own anyway(though it's unlikely), he did break Cracker's tough biscuits anyway.
He meant luffy couldn't solo biscuit. Not that he couldn't beat him with another partner.
 
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He meant luffy couldn't solo biscuit. Not that he couldn't beat him with another partner.
And while that might be true we don't know it for a fact either since Luffy was able to break Cracker's soldiers he may be able to break them quick enough to reach Cracker. This fight was a joke fight so we'll never really know. And if we're talking about a 2nd encounter he very well could beat Cracker on his own because now he knows the water weakness and could come prepared like he did against Croc. I just see so many people saying stuff like that "it happened this way that's the way it always has to" it just makes no sense.
 

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That was funny and unexpected. But I think it's one of worst ways to end a fight with a crazy strong dude like Cracker. I think the intensity of the battle should've been a bit higher. It may sound and look logical and all but the fight seemed more like a comic relief than a serious life threatening battle in a Yonko territory. It's sad, but for me, the tension and the Yonko like vibe have been reduced quite a bit by the end of this fight.

I don't understand the whole "vivre card" thing from the very beginning; I mean, it's just a vivre card, Why must they obey Nami just because she's holding a piece of paper filled with BM's life force? Aren't they pretty much going against BM's direct orders? I hope we'll get a logical explanation as to why they can't go against her "vivre card" and why a piece of paper is so important that they'd go against the original owner of the life force being emitted from the card.

I can't believe how powerful the Tankman's "canon ball" is, it took multiple kong guns to break Cracker's clones. Where as, Cracker was sent flying through multiple of these clones and the clones were broken quite easily. The force generated is unbelievable, no wonder Cracker was KO'd from just one attack.


@bold where does this logic come from? Because it happened 1 way in 1 instance it can't happen any other way? Just because Luffy beat Cracker with Nami this time doesn't in any shape or form equate to him not being able to beat Cracker without Nami. Nami just made it easier. Luffy could bring his own water if he ever fought Cracker again like he did against Croc. Luffy and another character might be able to beat him. Luffy might have been able to beat them on his own anyway(though it's unlikely), he did break Cracker's tough biscuits anyway.

It's because he couldn't beat Cracker that he needed help from others, even in a different scenario, Luffy doesn't have the means get unlimited supply of water. It's not about the scenario, Luffy just can't win the way he is now, that's why Oda went through the trouble of making Nami help him. If Oda wants Luffy to look stronger or as someone capable of defeating him on his, nothing would've stopped him from creating a scenario where Luffy earns victory on his own. Currently, Cracker is simply stronger than Luffy, plain and simple.
 
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@bold where does this logic come from? Because it happened 1 way in 1 instance it can't happen any other way? Just because Luffy beat Cracker with Nami this time doesn't in any shape or form equate to him not being able to beat Cracker without Nami. Nami just made it easier. Luffy could bring his own water if he ever fought Cracker again like he did against Croc. Luffy and another character might be able to beat him. Luffy might have been able to beat them on his own anyway(though it's unlikely), he did break Cracker's tough biscuits anyway.
Luffy was running....striking....eating repeat.
Went G4...striked...recovering with the help of Nami.He said this chapter he had nothing to smash through biscuits.
 

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That was funny and unexpected. But I think it's one of worst ways to end a fight with a crazy strong dude like Cracker. I think the intensity of the battle should've been a bit higher. It may sound and look logical and all but the fight seemed more like a comic relief than a serious life threatening battle in a Yonko territory. It's sad, but for me, the tension and the Yonko like vibe have been reduced quite a bit by the end of this fight.

I don't understand the whole "vivre card" thing from the very beginning; I mean, it's just a vivre card, Why must they obey Nami just because she's holding a piece of paper filled with BM's life force? Aren't they pretty much going against BM's direct orders? I hope we'll get a logical explanation as to why they can't go against her "vivre card" and why a piece of paper is so important that they'd go against the original owner of the life force being emitted from the card.

I can't believe how powerful the Tankman's "canon ball" is, it took multiple kong guns to break Cracker's clones. Where as, Cracker was sent flying through multiple of these clones and the clones were broken quite easily. The force generated is unbelievable, no wonder Cracker was KO'd from just one attack.




It's because he couldn't beat Cracker that he needed help from others, even in a different scenario, Luffy doesn't have the means get unlimited supply of water. It's not about the scenario, Luffy just can't win the way he is now, that's why Oda went through the trouble of making Nami help him. If Oda wants Luffy to look stronger or as someone capable of defeating him on his, nothing would've stopped him from creating a scenario where Luffy earns victory on his own. Currently, Cracker is simply stronger than Luffy, plain and simple.
Again, this just because he didn't show it means it can't exist logic is flawed. Just because Oda didn't make Luffy win a 1 on 1 doesn't mean he couldn't have. Who said it would have to be unlimited either? Now he knows the trick he could soak Cracker's first wave of biscuits with a water source then bum rush Cracker's physical body with G4. Plus Oda made it a point to show G4 could snap a biscuit whose to say it couldn't blitz through one and smash Cracker. The fact that Oda did something one way isn't fact it had to happen that way just how he chose to handle it. All that said I already said it'd be unlikely that Luffy could actually have won 1v1 but just because we saw Nami get involved doesn't mean he couldn't have still won.
 
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