[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 840 Discussion and 841 Predictions

[Dannie]

Holy sh*t....I know some of the Naruto characters had rough childhoods, but none of them are even HALF as bad as what Sanji is put through.

On another hand, finally something about his mother....really hope we get more into what she's all about soon.

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Robin and Law clearly had worse childhoods.

Hell, even Nami had it bad.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Robin and Law clearly had worse childhoods.

Hell, even Nami had it bad.

Law's wasn't really all that bad except the disease. I mean sure most of the world was afraid of his condition but he still found a group that wanted him(Sanji didn't until he left) he found Corazon who wanted to help him live. The only thing Law really had was loneliness, DD Pirates were trying to make him stronger(even if for selfish reasons) and Cora was trying to save him, Sanji was trying to be made stronger then abandoned and no one cared. I'd say Sanji had it rougher than Law. Robin and Nami though I agree had rougher times.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Law's wasn't really all that bad except the disease. I mean sure most of the world was afraid of his condition but he still found a group that wanted him(Sanji didn't until he left) he found Corazon who wanted to help him live. The only thing Law really had was loneliness, DD Pirates were trying to make him stronger(even if for selfish reasons) and Cora was trying to save him, Sanji was trying to be made stronger then abandoned and no one cared. I'd say Sanji had it rougher than Law. Robin and Nami though I agree had rougher times.

This is a joke, right? Law saw his parents get shot. He watched helplessly as his baby sister was burned alive in a fire. He saw dozens of children get massacred, along with his entire town, then had to hide under the corpses of these children and people for extended periods of time. And that's just the first half.

 

[ToshiZO]

Maybe this genetic modification explains Sanji's diable jambe, and how he can engulf himself in flames out of thin air. That would be one asspull completely explained.

The rest seem to have an element to them as well, Niji just used electricity.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Am I the only that really doesn't give a FCK about this? I thought we were done having Sttawhatb rescue arcs.

Sanji had the worst chuldhood smh stop all he did was get bullied by his family anyone outside his intermediate family treated him like royalty. FCK out a here boy

 

[chopstickchakra]

This is a joke, right? Law saw his parents get shot. He watched helplessly as his baby sister was burned alive in a fire. He saw dozens of children get massacred, along with his entire town, then had to hide under the corpses of these children and people for extended periods of time. And that's just the first half.

No one's saying Law didn't suffer a traumatic event but that's just it, one event and afterwards his life had people in it that wanted to help him, it wasn't until Sanji reached Zeff that he got that. So While Law may have had a harder event and broke due to it, he had support to help him earlier. Law had a families love for at least 9 years and some months before he lost it, Sanji never had that support.
You say for extended periods of time like it was multiple occasions. The manga only said he hid in corpses once, to get out of the country. I suppose you could argue it's sadder to lose than to never get it to lose in the first place.

 

[HashiraMadara]

Law's wasn't really all that bad except the disease. I mean sure most of the world was afraid of his condition but he still found a group that wanted him(Sanji didn't until he left) he found Corazon who wanted to help him live. The only thing Law really had was loneliness, DD Pirates were trying to make him stronger(even if for selfish reasons) and Cora was trying to save him, Sanji was trying to be made stronger then abandoned and no one cared. I'd say Sanji had it rougher than Law. Robin and Nami though I agree had rougher times.

Still Gaara, Utakata, Nagato, Kakashi upbringing >>>> Any One Piece character :sdo:

Maybe this genetic modification explains Sanji's diable jambe, and how he can engulf himself in flames out of thin air. That would be one asspull completely explained.

Zoro Ashura real 6 swords, Luffy Hawk pistol has flames too so it wouldn't be the first ass pull :sdo:

 

[Punk Hazard]

Still Gaara, Utakata, Nagato, Kakashi upbringing >>>> Any One Piece character :sdo:




Zoro Ashura real 6 swords, Luffy Hawk pistol has flames too so it wouldn't be the first ass pull :sdo:

1. Who gives a **** about Naruto? We're talking about a good series here.

2. There are logical(in context of the OPVerse) explanations for Asura and Red Hawk.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Still Gaara, Utakata, Nagato, Kakashi upbringing >>>> Any One Piece character :sdo:




Zoro Ashura real 6 swords, Luffy Hawk pistol has flames too so it wouldn't be the first ass pull :sdo:

Gaara definitely, Kakashi probably not, Nagato and Law's = probably, Utakata I don't remember.

 

[ToshiZO]

Still Gaara, Utakata, Nagato, Kakashi upbringing >>>> Any One Piece character :sdo:

Not even.

Robin and Nami had it worse than most of them.

Robin had to watch every single person she ever came into contact with slaughtered, and at that young age was labelled a Devil, had to constantly be in survival mode on her own, having no place to stay because she was a fugitive. Literally not until she met the Strawhats which was when she was 28, did she finally find a home.

Nami had to tattoo her mothers killer on her arm, and work for him with a fake smile for years, had to constantly sneak on to dangerous pirate ships as a kid and steal their treasure for him to reach a grand total of 100,000,000 to free her village, all to find out he had never intended on keeping his promise despite a decade plus worth of slave work.

 

[HashiraMadara]

Not even.

Robin and Nami had it worse than most of them.

Robin had to watch every single person she ever came into contact with slaughtered, and at that young age was labelled a Devil, had to constantly be in survival mode on her own, having no place to stay because she was a fugitive. Literally not until she met the Strawhats which was when she was 28, did she finally find a home.

Nami had to tattoo her mothers killer on her arm, and work for him with a fake smile for years, had to constantly sneak on to dangerous pirate ships as a kid and steal their treasure for him to reach a grand total of 100,000,000 to free her village, all to find out he had never intended on keeping his promise despite a decade plus worth of slave work.

Gaara definitely, Kakashi probably not, Nagato and Law's = probably, Utakata I don't remember.

* Nagato is the embodiment of Pain, far greater than Gaara, reality slapped him in the face too many times. Killed his friend Yahiko, eyes he couldn't control, used by Hanzo, lost mobility, living on machines, watched family die and was an orphan the entire war which lasted years. Each time he found a solace in someone they either leave him or die. Comes back to be controlled by edo and still doesn't die in peace, instead soul stays restless in a genjutsu Gould :sdo: from Itachi's Totsuka :sdo:


* Utakata was forced by his master to be a Jin which brought havoc in his life that never calmed until his death...

* Gaara enough said

* Kakashi had the most hurting internal pains. Legend father died a "shameful death", lost friend and gained a shameful eye, killed friend's friendzone, lost master, became an anbu killing everything. first time bonding with students, a f*cker leaves him for brother revenge, then looses a grandmaster etc. friend turns out to be alive and brings further pain in his life...


Fish Tiger life > Nami

 

[chopstickchakra]

Not even.

Robin and Nami had it worse than most of them.

Robin had to watch every single person she ever came into contact with slaughtered, and at that young age was labelled a Devil, had to constantly be in survival mode on her own, having no place to stay because she was a fugitive. Literally not until she met the Strawhats which was when she was 28, did she finally find a home.

Nami had to tattoo her mothers killer on her arm, and work for him with a fake smile for years, had to constantly sneak on to dangerous pirate ships as a kid and steal their treasure for him to reach a grand total of 100,000,000 to free her village, all to find out he had never intended on keeping his promise despite a decade plus worth of slave work.

I agree with the gist of this except two points.

1. Gaara had one of the worst childhoods between both stories.
2. It was technically her adoptive mother, we still don't actually know anything about Nami's real lineage or her life before meeting Belle-Mere.

 

[ToshiZO]

Nagato had it real rough but he had Jiraiya for a bit, Nagato is the one who decided to go become a villain after all those hardships, so can't really include anything after that, he had become the leader of an S rank criminal organization. It gives him a true purpose, and allows him to cope with his earlier traumas. Nagato becoming what he had become was basically a coping mechanism.

Utakata's was bad but not explored enough to place on the same scale.

Kakashi's was definitely not on the same scale. While all of this was going on, he still had a place to call home, which makes all the difference in the world.

There aren't many things worse than having to work with your mother's killer for over a decade. The reason for all your pain is right there in front of you but you have to shake hands with him.

1. Gaara had one of the worst childhoods between both stories.
2. It was technically her adoptive mother, we still don't actually know anything about Nami's real lineage or her life before meeting Belle-Mere.

1."Robin and Nami had it worse than most of them."
2. Not relevant.

 

[chopstickchakra]

* Nagato is the embodiment of Pain, far greater than Gaara, reality slapped him in the face too many times. Killed his friend Yahiko, eyes he couldn't control, used by Hanzo, lost mobility, living on machines, watched family die and was an orphan the entire war which lasted years. Each time he found a solace in someone they either leave him or die. Comes back to be controlled by edo and still doesn't die in peace, instead soul stays restless in a genjutsu Gould :sdo: from Itachi's Totsuka :sdo:


* Utakata was forced by his master to be a Jin which brought havoc in his life that never calmed until his death...

* Gaara enough said

* Kakashi had the most hurting internal pains. Legend father died a "shameful death", lost friend and gained a shameful eye, killed friend's friendzone, lost master, became an anbu killing everything. first time bonding with students, a f*cker leaves him for brother revenge, then looses a grandmaster etc. friend turns out to be alive and brings further pain in his life...


Fish Tiger life > Nami

Nah, Kakashi's wasn't as bad as he and you'd like to make it seem he just didn't handle it well. Kakashi's own father, the one who was actually disgraced, didn't take it as hard as Kakashi because he knew it wasn't as big of a deal.

Gaara's story was more upsetting than Nagato's. Nagato had friends, and Jiraiya. Gaara had a village that hated him, a father that wanted him dead and a "brother" who hated him and tried to kill him. It's more painful to be betrayed by those close to you than it is by those who pick you up when you're down because in most of these situations the people picking you up are doing so for selfish reasons.

 

[HashiraMadara]

1. Who gives a **** about Naruto? We're talking about a good series here.

2. There are logical(in context of the OPVerse) explanations for Asura and Red Hawk.

1. The poster above commented about Naruto and this is a quote in case you didn't see it :sdo:

2. Such as? Myabe red hawk's haki blocks Luffy from burning but Zoro has 6 real swords no illusions :sdo:

Nagato had it real rough but he had Jiraiya for a bit, Nagato is the one who decided to go become a villain after all those hardships, so can't really include anything after that, he had become the leader of an S rank criminal organization. It gives him a true purpose, and allows him to cope with his earlier traumas. Nagato becoming what he had become was basically a coping mechanism.

Utakata's was bad but not explored enough to place on the same scale.

Kakashi's was definitely not on the same scale. While all of this was going on, he still had a place to call home, which makes all the difference in the world.

There aren't many things worse than having to work with your mother's killer for over a decade. The reason for all your pain is right there in front of you but you have to shake hands with him.




1."Robin and Nami had it worse than most of them."
2. Not relevant.

Nagato(God damn the kid even relapsed and nearly died of heart pains when he killed Yahiko) > Gaara >>>>> Fish Tiger life > both Robin and Nami

 

[ssjelf]

Sanji keeps getting messed up man. But every time he does there is some excuse of there being a hostage and so sanji doesn't fight back like he should. Just waiting for the chapter when sanji realizes he doesn't have to look out for zeff and he pwns some noobs.

 

[loj]

1. The poster above commented about Naruto and this is a quote in case you didn't see it :sdo:

2. Such as? Myabe red hawk's haki blocks Luffy from burning but Zoro has 6 real swords no illusions :sdo:



Nagato(God damn the kid even relapsed and nearly died of heart pains when he killed Yahiko) > Gaara >>>>> Fish Tiger life > both Robin and Nami

Kyutoryu is an addition to Zoro's main Santoryu. They are extensions of his spirit and part-illusion based and Kyutoryu effectively triples Zoro's potential as a swordsman and enabled him to shatter Kaku's most powerful Rankyaku.[2] The techniques are accessed when Zoro uses Asura, creating the initial 9-sword illusion needed to access the others.

Also piss off with Naruto I don't need it here.

 

[Agent Phrank]

Re:clone

Clones everywhere.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Nagato had it real rough but he had Jiraiya for a bit, Nagato is the one who decided to go become a villain after all those hardships, so can't really include anything after that, he had become the leader of an S rank criminal organization. It gives him a true purpose, and allows him to cope with his earlier traumas. Nagato becoming what he had become was basically a coping mechanism.

Utakata's was bad but not explored enough to place on the same scale.

Kakashi's was definitely not on the same scale. While all of this was going on, he still had a place to call home, which makes all the difference in the world.

There aren't many things worse than having to work with your mother's killer for over a decade. The reason for all your pain is right there in front of you but you have to shake hands with him.




1."Robin and Nami had it worse than most of them."
2. Not relevant.

You replied not even to the statement that Gaara(and the others) >all one piece.
Not relevant to the point of how sad her story was but important to remember as we're still learning about the SH's. Brook's time in that kingdom that taught him his sword skills and Nami's parents still need to be explored.

 

[A v i]

Sanji's childhood doesn't even come closer to being half as bad as that of Robin, Law and even Nami for that matter. Law had the worst childhood of all, and if we were to consider their entire journey; then Robin's may come on top as she suffered the longest.