[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 816 Discussion and 817 Predictions

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Minks >>> Dwarves
Zou >>> Dressrosa
Nekomamushi for best Zou character
10/10 chapter
Dat twist, oh damn
Can't wait to see the exact relationship Zou and Wano share with one another
 

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Great to see the samurai "issue" resolved; and I like how pacey this arc feels compared to Dressrosa (maybe an unfair comparison but that thing just dragged like hell either way)
4/5
 

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Are you kidding me ? little progression ?

The wrapped up the samurai situation and bringing the two dukes together in one chapter. That was basically all that was left to do on Zou since the fight already has happened. Now only Raizou has to come out, pack their bags and head for Big Mom.

This chapter probably saved us 2 extra months on Zou by the way that it looked beforehand. If you would say that this was very little progression you just weren't paying much attention at all.
No No No.... you are getting it all wrong. I am not talking about how many loose ends oda tied up with one revelation. But when you actually look at the chapter from the last chapter, we already knew Kinemon and Kanjurou were on their way. The fact that Robin's party slept through the night, meant Neko's time was almost up and Inu would take over. All these things were implied, in the last chapter itself. So, all we got to know in this chapter was a new name "Kougetsu" family, and raizou being on the island, all along.
And you are talking about the samurai situation? It is far from being wrapped up. We don't even know why Momonosuke was being targeted by doffy, when all this fuss was about raizou. And it will still be two extra months on Zou, cause like it or not, we will be getting a flashback of Raizou and his whole story in upcoming chapters.
 

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No No No.... you are getting it all wrong. I am not talking about how many loose ends oda tied up with one revelation. But when you actually look at the chapter from the last chapter, we already knew Kinemon and Kanjurou were on their way. The fact that Robin's party slept through the night, meant Neko's time was almost up and Inu would take over. All these things were implied, in the last chapter itself. So, all we got to know in this chapter was a new name "Kougetsu" family, and raizou being on the island, all along.
And you are talking about the samurai situation? It is far from being wrapped up. We don't even know why Momonosuke was being targeted by doffy, when all this fuss was about raizou. And it will still be two extra months on Zou, cause like it or not, we will be getting a flashback of Raizou and his whole story in upcoming chapters.
The samurai situation on Zou is wrapped up. Everybody was expecting a battle and things to be resolved once the samurai got in the city that hated samurai. But it is fine so that saves us 5 chapters of chasing samurai.

Also don't tell me what I would like or wouldn't like because I'm not the one complaining after a good chapter.

Reading is one thing, understanding is another.
 

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Founding this arc pretty boring but this twist is awesome want to know more about raizou but also want oda to sum up this arc fast because it seems that this short arc is stretching becoming dressrosa now.
 

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The samurai situation on Zou is wrapped up. Everybody was expecting a battle and things to be resolved once the samurai got in the city that hated samurai. But it is fine so that saves us 5 chapters of chasing samurai.

Also don't tell me what I would like or wouldn't like because I'm not the one complaining after a good chapter.

Reading is one thing, understanding is another.
I guess by "Everybody" you meant yourself. Because, some people, did not follow your stupid line of though.
 

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I guess by "Everybody" you meant yourself. Because, some people, did not follow your stupid line of though.
Ah yes I forgot all the people who predicted that everybody on Zou were actually not enemies with the samurai, because there was so much reason to say that right.

Go link me on of those theories dipshit or otherwise don't try to bluff your way out of your own dumdum's by trying to discredit me. Because no one predicted this plot twist.

So yes, everyone was expecting that this samurai on Zou thing would drag on. Go cry about it. Just read the damn chapter better next time, saves a lot of time trying to explain to you what actually happened.
 

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Man.. I have read just about almost every comment on every thread in the OP section on NB.. and especially since the Dressrosa arc ended... and NOT ONCE did I see any member predict this plot twist.

So anyone saying that it was predictable, or they saw it coming, can go somewhere else with that b.s.

Oda is the best Mangaka / story teller to ever live bro. I f*ckin love One Piece and all the epicness that keeps unfolding!
 

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Man.. I have read just about almost every comment on every thread in the OP section on NB.. and especially since the Dressrosa arc ended... and NOT ONCE did I see any member predict this plot twist.

So anyone saying that it was predictable, or they saw it coming, can go somewhere else with that b.s.

Oda is the best Mangaka / story teller to ever live bro. I f*ckin love One Piece and all the epicness that keeps unfolding!
That doesn't mean they aren't things in here that aren't predictable. I doubt that not a single person reading OP didn't think to themselves, at any point while reading the past few chapters, that there was zero chance that the Minks were lying.
 

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Man.. I have read just about almost every comment on every thread in the OP section on NB.. and especially since the Dressrosa arc ended... and NOT ONCE did I see any member predict this plot twist.

So anyone saying that it was predictable, or they saw it coming, can go somewhere else with that b.s.

Oda is the best Mangaka / story teller to ever live bro. I f*ckin love One Piece and all the epicness that keeps unfolding!
That doesn't mean they aren't things in here that aren't predictable. I doubt that not a single person reading OP didn't think to themselves, at any point while reading the past few chapters, that there was zero chance that the Minks were lying.
I'm not gonna try and say I saw it coming but after hearing it it's not that shocking either. It's impressive the level they went to that was shocking but not the act itself. It's a common story technique Oda just did it well.
 

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what If I told you that I thought that might happen ? But since I dont post much I didn't say anything because it wouldn't achieve anything.

And I am serious when I say that I expected Samurais to have close relationship with Minks ... It was just gut feeling without any proof.
 

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what If I told you that I thought that might happen ? But since I dont post much I didn't say anything because it wouldn't achieve anything.

And I am serious when I say that I expected Samurais to have close relationship with Minks ... It was just gut feeling without any proof.
I'd say your credibility is thrown off when you say things like, " But since I dont post much " and then have a post count of 17,521.
 

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This chapter had a crap feeling some type of way especially because of the break. But oda deserves it... didnt think he would hold off this long.. this chapter animated will be beast.
 
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Ah yes I forgot all the people who predicted that everybody on Zou were actually not enemies with the samurai, because there was so much reason to say that right.

Go link me on of those theories dipshit or otherwise don't try to bluff your way out of your own dumdum's by trying to discredit me. Because no one predicted this plot twist.

So yes, everyone was expecting that this samurai on Zou thing would drag on. Go cry about it. Just read the damn chapter better next time, saves a lot of time trying to explain to you what actually happened.
There was no reason to believe they would be enemies, except that a lunatic pirate stops by trying to find a samurai. And considering Jack himself was not a samurai, why would the mink have any grudge towards the samurai's in the first place. It's just the stupid curly haired pirates making it up, considering the damage that the minkmen recieved because of a raving lunatic searching for a samurai, who until now, may not even have been on zou. So yeah, it was all the samurai's fault that zou was destroyed.
That's just you believing every bluff that oda pulls out like a person who has lost his ability to reason.
 

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Pretty sure he meant he doesn't post in this section often.
He doesn't, dude is mainly an RPer, hence why he got to at least 10,000(RP perks).

OT: You guys do realize that the opposite of something being predictable doesn't mean that thing wasn't believed right? Saying "Yeah, I figured/predicted the Minks are actually hiding Raizou" doesn't mean that person didn't believe that they weren't. While reading the Minks' torture, the first thing that came to mind was actually that they were lying, but I believed they weren't because of the story's red herring.

The twist was predictable; it's not like this is some huge shocker. This ain't Fight Club 2: Primal Fear of Soylent Green. That's what it being predictable means: It's nothing that one couldn't have seen coming.
 

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I am more surprised and awed by the Minks' loyalty than the fact of the relationship revelation itself. It is believable, there's actually a few fans theorised the same twist before but didn't get that explained properly since, well, it's one of those options in such situation could have been regardless the lack of proof. Then again, nobody has a proof to debunk it either.

Had to admit I almost cried of their willingness to sacrifice themselves out of respect, it was a whole new level of loyalty shown by a race/tribe. Consider yourself trying to protect a person you respect so much from other clan that you even bet on your own life, the whole civilisation and culture of your own clan and stuff... It was damn amazing, tbh. I couldn't help but think these guys are stupid despite all that though. Still, sometimes stupid people turns out well in a certain circumstance.

To those readers that find this chapter isn't that great, i think we can all agree to the build up moments Oda had done in several chapters behind till this week deserved a praise at least. He tried to portray the assumption of 'Minks would deeply hate Samurai because of the incident with Jack' through SHs' thoughts and Minks' suggestive behaviours, which most readers had taken the bait. So yeah, all in all, for me this chapter is awesome in its own category.

5/5 for me. I wouldn't wait for an epic fight/mind-blowing attack in a chapter just to rate the said chapter as 'insanely great'. The characters' reactions and feelings upon the story goes on and how the events are being unfolded throughout the storyline are the elements I would consider each time I rate a chapter. Idk about you guys.
 
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