[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 797 Discussion and 798 Predictions
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Oh look Rebbeca is crying again, just think about her having Manshellys DF, there would be no injured people anymore over the world.
Boring as hell, stop with these tear jerking scenes, I didnt feel anything at all, how am I supposed to get emotional and shit to someone like Rebbeca, cmon.
Boring as hell, stop with these tear jerking scenes, I didnt feel anything at all, how am I supposed to get emotional and shit to someone like Rebbeca, cmon.
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The sudden drama with Kyros was indeed a dud but the chapter was fine. I loved the part where everyone thinks Rebeca was kidnapped and then they run away once again like the pirates they are with Fujitora on their heels. It's no like Luffy likes to leave like a hero.
I agree with this and I think this pretty much sums up the latter part of this arc. I think things where done to extend this arc just for the sake of extending this arc not because it suited the story.
Because my first thought was "Well I hate Rebecca but this needed to happen". But I agree with your assessment.
I feel like Oda has been stalling for Chapter 800.
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yea, this seemed kind of forced considering this whole thing about kyros was just recently brought up. Hopefully this is the last we see of Rebecca XD
Loved the cover page.
And well this chapter pretty much means the end of all the Viola/Rebecca next Strawhat theories.
You could wonder whether it was ever necessary to write the story like that as you could easily say that people would never have been bothered by Kyros' past, but the fact remains that Oda started it a long time ago, so now he has to finish it and these people first loved the Riku family, then had been hating on the them for a decade and then turned against DD to support king Riku again. So their opinion can shift rather easy simply because they only know a bit of the whole story. Them having doubts about the child of what is in fact a murdering vagrant after having been ruled for 10 years by a tyrannical pirate, isn't that implausible. Oda might regularly make unrealistic romanticizations about selfless kings and good pirates, but that doesn't mean he's going to do that all the time.
Above all these chapters are important for the character development of Rebecca and especially Kyros. Even if all of this wouldn't be that much of a problem for the outside world, for Kyros that's a very different matter as he has always been extremely insecure about Rebecca and he blames himself for everything. He thinks it's his fault that Scarlett died, that it's his fault everything Riku and Rebecca had to go through during DD's reign etc. He firmly believes that people knowing that he is her father would harm Rebecca. Whether that would indeed be true or not is actually besides the point. When she was born he didn't even dare to touch her without wearing gloves as he considered him touching her with his hands dirtied in blood as defiling her.
This insecurity is what defines Kyros' character the most. So this is really not something Oda just brought up in one chapter; everything Kyros did so far, every action he undertook has been a result of that. People who aren't interested in neither Kyros nor Rebecca are logically not going to be much interested in their development, but in the end that's a subjective thing. When more popular characters like Law get some development, many people are lyrical about it.
And well this chapter pretty much means the end of all the Viola/Rebecca next Strawhat theories.
Actually no it didn't. This 'conflict' as you call it has started since Kyros' flashback months ago, thus in the chronology of the story itself it has existed even before Rebecca was born. They faked Scarlett's death so that she could be with Kyros, a person with a bloody past and thus not really a person a princess should marry with. Rebecca was then born unbeknownst to the rest of Dressrosa. She only became known when she became a gladiator and at that point no on really cared where she came from as they would loath her regardless. However now that the Riku family has been cleared of all their supposed crimes and has gained popularity again, the same issue rises again. The past two chapters were a continuation and a means to end what already started when Scarlett eloped with Kyros and had Rebecca, so this is not something Oda made up in the previous chapter. This became especially obvious with the rumor Kyros spread about Rebecca's origins as logically now people started wondering who exactly Rebecca's father was?
You could wonder whether it was ever necessary to write the story like that as you could easily say that people would never have been bothered by Kyros' past, but the fact remains that Oda started it a long time ago, so now he has to finish it and these people first loved the Riku family, then had been hating on the them for a decade and then turned against DD to support king Riku again. So their opinion can shift rather easy simply because they only know a bit of the whole story. Them having doubts about the child of what is in fact a murdering vagrant after having been ruled for 10 years by a tyrannical pirate, isn't that implausible. Oda might regularly make unrealistic romanticizations about selfless kings and good pirates, but that doesn't mean he's going to do that all the time.
Above all these chapters are important for the character development of Rebecca and especially Kyros. Even if all of this wouldn't be that much of a problem for the outside world, for Kyros that's a very different matter as he has always been extremely insecure about Rebecca and he blames himself for everything. He thinks it's his fault that Scarlett died, that it's his fault everything Riku and Rebecca had to go through during DD's reign etc. He firmly believes that people knowing that he is her father would harm Rebecca. Whether that would indeed be true or not is actually besides the point. When she was born he didn't even dare to touch her without wearing gloves as he considered him touching her with his hands dirtied in blood as defiling her.
This insecurity is what defines Kyros' character the most. So this is really not something Oda just brought up in one chapter; everything Kyros did so far, every action he undertook has been a result of that. People who aren't interested in neither Kyros nor Rebecca are logically not going to be much interested in their development, but in the end that's a subjective thing. When more popular characters like Law get some development, many people are lyrical about it.
Based on your reply, you seem to be already emotional enough though.
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So, I haven't finished the chapter yet, but I just wanted to drop this here for all of the people that like to use panels of "Zoro's group" as proof of him being first mate
Also, reading through some of the comments here, you guys sure do love burning your cake at both ends and having it too. People love to compliment Oda and One Piece on realistic characters but are now trashing Rebecca for crying? She lived under a tyrant, had to fight even though she didn't want, lost her mother at a young age, grew up with pretty much no friends aside from Soldier-San and didn't know her father for a while. Rebecca has been through lots of shit, not to mention she's a teenager. Her crying and being emotional is natural and whether you like it or not, Rebecca and her story is an integral part of this arc's story.
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The kinda chapter that fanboys like, casual fans skim through as just another chapter and the even more casual readers dont like, no need to get into anyones face, i liked the chapter, I'm a fanboy, I get why a lot of ppl would complain ... Its just opinions 
2.5/5
2.5/5
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Knowing you.. i thought for sure that you're gonna wank and flame everyone who complained about the chapter,The kinda chapter that fanboys like, casual fans skim through as just another chapter and the even more casual readers dont like, no need to get into anyones face, i liked the chapter, I'm a fanboy, I get why a lot of ppl would complain ... Its just opinions
2.5/5
by the way i don't like the chapter.. does that make me a casual reader ?
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I know right, she's going through puberty XD
People have to stop complaining about everything. Jeez. You are read will continue the manga, yet you all like to complain. The way i see it people always have something to complain about. Relax, eat a snickers and enjoy onepiece for the adventure it is.
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Not interesting chapter, but amazing how Luffy consider even small matters such as family issue after the crisis a country been through. He after all managed not only to save a country, but to bring back a family all together. A 100% mission accomplished. Still not something we care about as readers.
Something else that I find rather peculiar:
The marines that tried to gun down Luffy collapsed, but it was confirmed that it was not the King's Disposition. Luffy was also fleeing with Rebecca on his back, so he couldn't have been the one who made the collapse. So who did? This could just easily be one of the Corrida fighters who are aiding the Strawhats in their escape, but I noticed on the bottom left panel that the first three marines have a black star on their arm while the fourth a black star on his head.
If it had been just one marine, I wouldn't think anything of it, but all of them? If it was some kind of a recognition mark of marines, we should have seen it a lot more and it remains a fact that someone made all those marines collapse. So I wonder if those stars and that are connected? And then the question remains who was it? Almost all the Corrida fighters are non-DF users, so they couldn't have been it and none of the other characters I can remember have an ability that even remotely connects with that. The only one slightly is Kanjuro and his drawing ability, however he is with the other Strawhats and I don't see how he would have been able to draw a star on them all and how his drawings would make them collapse.
So the only one character I can think of who might be the mystery culprit, is the revolutionary that was transporting Sabo by the means of black birds.
The marines that tried to gun down Luffy collapsed, but it was confirmed that it was not the King's Disposition. Luffy was also fleeing with Rebecca on his back, so he couldn't have been the one who made the collapse. So who did? This could just easily be one of the Corrida fighters who are aiding the Strawhats in their escape, but I noticed on the bottom left panel that the first three marines have a black star on their arm while the fourth a black star on his head.
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If it had been just one marine, I wouldn't think anything of it, but all of them? If it was some kind of a recognition mark of marines, we should have seen it a lot more and it remains a fact that someone made all those marines collapse. So I wonder if those stars and that are connected? And then the question remains who was it? Almost all the Corrida fighters are non-DF users, so they couldn't have been it and none of the other characters I can remember have an ability that even remotely connects with that. The only one slightly is Kanjuro and his drawing ability, however he is with the other Strawhats and I don't see how he would have been able to draw a star on them all and how his drawings would make them collapse.
So the only one character I can think of who might be the mystery culprit, is the revolutionary that was transporting Sabo by the means of black birds.
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Very Good Chapter. I loved it. One thing what I like most about Eiichiro sensei is the way how he illustrate his story. For a second I thought Rebecca is gonna join the strawhats but nope lol. Rebecca and Kyro's situation is touching :3. Fujitora is up and I think Fuji will just give send off to Luffy for saving Dressrosa. lol just random thought or he may totally try to fight against them.
Me atm : Chapter 800 is nearing :hyper::hyper:
Very Good Chapter. I loved it. One thing what I like most about Eiichiro sensei is the way how he illustrate his story. For a second I thought Rebecca is gonna join the strawhats but nope lol. Rebecca and Kyro's situation is touching :3. Fujitora is up and I think Fuji will just give send off to Luffy for saving Dressrosa. lol just random thought or he may totally try to fight against them.
Me atm : Chapter 800 is nearing :hyper::hyper:
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Well they are called the special sniper squad. Have we ever seen a special sniper squad before? If no, if this is their first appearance, then it can very well be a Marine thing. The reason we've never seen it before is because we haven't seen the special sniper squad before.
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