[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 787 Discussion and 788 Predictions

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Piece of shit Admiral? He's been the most empathetic admiral (along with Aokiji) shown thus far. Get outta here scrub.
Yes he has been empathetic, but for all his power he has done Nought to help the people he was emphatetic towards. Aokiji seems better considering he let Nico robin escape even after orders.

He's known for hating on admirals lol.
Fujitora is my most liked admiral followed by Aokiji. Stop labelling members.
 

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Awesome chapter =D


- Lol, Sabo staunched Burgess

- Zoro mate, scream harder and get the two samurai to help ya! Although, I like Franky's way of attempting to take down birdcage too!

- All the collesium fighters are back up thanks to mansherry. Since those protecting luffy were taken out they will keep doflamingo busy. Cant wait to see that! All of them are pretty powerful!


A giant, bartholomeo, sai, don chinjaio, kyros

- Remember.



3 min to birdcage kills everyone.
4 min to luffy recovers.


So unless birdcage breaks, everyone dies lol
not every one, we've got fuji for one
 

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Yes he has been empathetic, but for all his power he has done Nought to help the people he was emphatetic towards. Aokiji seems better considering he let Nico robin escape even after orders.



Fujitora is my most liked admiral followed by Aokiji. Stop labelling members.
I think what Fujitoria is doing is letting catastrophe continue in order to prove his point the Navy and WG that the Warlords should be abolished. Which I think will happen because the Warlord are based on a actual real life thing. During like the Pirates Of The Caribbean days there where Pirates who where recognized buy the government and then it got abolished.

I think his plan is to let it get as bad as it can. And then if worst comes to worst he'd step in and stop it.
 

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For all the people spouting about how Fujitora isn't doing anything to the Bird Cage, please, tell me, what do you expect him to do? Using what powers we have garnered from him thus far, what plan would you suggest he do to stop the Bird Cage? Cuz I'm seeing a whole lot of "Fuji should do something" with no one able to actually say even a hint of what he should do. He's doing what he can by helping people he comes across, you can't expect him to go unleashing huge waves of gravity across Dressrosa to repel the Bird Cage or anything like that, he'd be injuring the people he's supposed to be protecting.
 

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For all the people spouting about how Fujitora isn't doing anything to the Bird Cage, please, tell me, what do you expect him to do? Using what powers we have garnered from him thus far, what plan would you suggest he do to stop the Bird Cage? Cuz I'm seeing a whole lot of "Fuji should do something" with no one able to actually say even a hint of what he should do. He's doing what he can by helping people he comes across, you can't expect him to go unleashing huge waves of gravity across Dressrosa to repel the Bird Cage or anything like that, he'd be injuring the people he's supposed to be protecting.
how about doing as zoro ? going to the edge of the bird cage where there is no one and use his gravity to hold the cage ? it`s not like he is pinned to the middle of the city and cant leave it
inb4 he cant leave the center cause he is helping people cause it`s clear that he would do a lot more help if he stopped or even destroyed the cage can you tell me why ?
and please give me specific answer this time and dont start using your ifs game this time ....
 

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how about doing as zoro ? going to the edge of the bird cage where there is no one and use his gravity to hold the cage ? it`s not like he is pinned to the middle of the city and cant leave it
inb4 he cant leave the center cause he is helping people cause it`s clear that he would do a lot more help if he stopped or even destroyed the cage can you tell me why ?
and please give me specific answer this time and dont start using your ifs game this time ....
Okay, first, another way of phrasing what you said would be "If Fujitora went to the edge of the Bird Cage and used his gravity on it, he would be helping them more than remaining at the center of the Cage." So, let's the nonsense in your last sentence right away, otherwise this conversation might as well end right now.

The reason Fujitora didn't move towards the edge of the Cage is because he was initially too far from the edge. If he had went there back in the chapter where you lot started spouting this nonsense, the people he saved would have died. So far, no people have actually died as a direct result of the Bird Cage because they've all been moving towards the center, unless there's indication of this in the manga that I missed. Zoro is able to do so now because his location made it so that his best course of action was doing so, he could move to the Cage and get to it before Fuji could, while Fuji's position in the center as you say he is makes his best course of action to protect the people around him. Stopping the Cage won't matter if the people inside have been killed by others in panic, or by the collapsing environment, or by the people who were initially using the Bird Cage as an excuse to loot and be violent.
 

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the nonsense for me is your interpretation but you can think of what ever you want to . fuji could have let his marine solders handle it there is no big threat like a top tier enemy or some thing it`s just civillians orgnizing and guiding which they can do it while he move to deal with the greater danger .
 

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I have to agree with the admiral is doing nothing crowd.

What is wrong with him, even if he has decided to leave Doflamingo to Luffy he can help slow the bird cage by pushing back on the rubble with his gravity powers, or make his marines help the civilians.

He is standing around and being useless.

I think what Fujitoria is doing is letting catastrophe continue in order to prove his point the Navy and WG that the Warlords should be abolished. Which I think will happen because the Warlord are based on a actual real life thing. During like the Pirates Of The Caribbean days there where Pirates who where recognized buy the government and then it got abolished.

I think his plan is to let it get as bad as it can. And then if worst comes to worst he'd step in and stop it.
Considering that it is 3 min from beginning a slaughter, I would say its as good a time as any to help stop it. The point that the Warlord system is a bad idea has been proven a thousand times over.

There is barely any of Dressrossa still standing.
 
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I have to agree with the admiral is doing nothing crowd.

What is wrong with him, even if he has decided to leave Doflamingo to Luffy he can help slow the bird cage by pushing back on the rubble with his gravity powers, or make his marines help the civilians.

He is standing around and being useless.



Considering that it is 3 min from beginning a slaughter, I would say its as good a time as any to help stop it. The point that the Warlord system is a bad idea has been proven a thousand times over.

There is barely any of Dressrossa still standing.
Because just throwing bursts of gravity around through a panicked crowd is the best option.
 

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Because just throwing bursts of gravity around through a panicked crowd is the best option.
Or simply, helping the Straw Hats doing what they are doing.

You know helping push the enclosing rubble by going to the edge of the cage and helping push back, he could even help Franky and the Dwarves.

The pirates without Devil Fruit powers are doing more than him by using nothing but their arms.

Once again you post without thinking it all the way through and simply want to be spiteful, tut tut tut.
 
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Or simply, helping the Straw Hats doing what they are doing.

You know helping push the enclosing rubble by going to the edge of the cage and helping push back, he could even help Franky and the Dwarves.

The pirates without Devil Fruit powers are doing more than he can do.

Once again you post without thinking it all the way through and simply want to be a smart mouth, tut tut tut.
That's not a good idea. If he just starts throwing waves of gravity around, people could get hurt. It's been implied multiple times that Fuji is relatively new to his powers.
 

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That's not a good idea. If he just starts throwing waves of gravity around, people could get hurt. It's been implied multiple times that Fuji is relatively new to his powers.
Precisely why he goes next to the edge and only aims forward, all he would have to do is aim the rubble at the cage, if he can't do that much then he shouldn't be an admiral.

Or he could walk up and help by pushing back with a sword.

Everyone else that is working to stop the bird cage doesn't even have Devil Fruit powers, Zorro is doing more using nothing but his swords, arms, and legs and Zorro isn't at admiral level.

He is an admiral, you don't become an admiral by being weak or a novice. There are many ways he can help by simply going and helping push, and bunch of Dwarves are doing more than he is.

He doesn't have an excuse to stand around and doing nothing.
 

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He could walk up and help by pushing back with a sword.

Everyone else that is working to stop the bird cage doesn't even have Devil Fruit powers, Zorro is doing more using nothing but his swords, arms, and legs and Zorro isn't at admiral level.

He is an admiral, you don't become an admiral by being weak or a novice. There are many ways he can help by simply going and helping push, and bunch of Dwarves are doing more than he is.

He doesn't have an excuse to stand around and doing nothing.
Oh my God what is so hard about understanding that sending widespread waves of gravity is a bad idea because they can end up hitting people or causing more destruction? He's pushed rubble before, but he can't go doing widespread amongst crowds of people.
 

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Oh my God what is so hard about understanding that sending widespread waves of gravity is a bad idea because they can end up hitting people or causing more destruction? He's pushed rubble before, but he can't go doing widespread amongst crowds of people.

At least try to go three posts in a debate without getting emotional.

You don't have the slightest idea what I posted do you?

Or did you simply skip the part where he tried to destroy the bird cage by drawing meteors and he did it without effecting the people or the rubble around him with the gravity.

The problem was that the cage chopped them up and scattered them, not that he sent bursts of gravity.

If he can do that he can push rubble against the cage without hitting anyone or hurling rubble at them.

And that still doesn't excuse him not even helping push with his own arms and legs and sword.
 
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wait a minute if you think about it when fuji pulled that meteor his beams (or what ever that gravity thing is ) had to go through the bird cage it self in order to get to the meteor up there but it didint affect the cage at all did the cage withstand it or was it simply immune to fuji`s gravity or can fuji choose what his beams can\can not affect ?

oda has alot of things to explain tbh .
 

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wait a minute if you think about it when fuji pulled that meteor his beams (or what ever that gravity thing is ) had to go through the bird cage it self in order to get to the meteor up there but it didint affect the cage at all did the cage withstand it or was it simply immune to fuji`s gravity or can fuji choose what his beams can\can not affect ?

oda has alot of things to explain tbh .
I suspect a bit of both, he was able to move the meteor without affecting any rubble or people around him with gravity but he tried earlier to destroy it rather than remove it with his gravity power.

Still if he can effect the meteor then he can move rubble against the bird cage without sending any stray rubble flying.
 

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Or simply, helping the Straw Hats doing what they are doing.

You know helping push the enclosing rubble by going to the edge of the cage and helping push back, he could even help Franky and the Dwarves.

The pirates without Devil Fruit powers are doing more than him by using nothing but their arms.

Once again you post without thinking it all the way through and simply want to be spiteful, tut tut tut.
Since when is an admiral of the navy an patsy of some pirates ?

I agree that Fujitora should not be working alongside the pirates, and so far everybody inside the cage is safe. Also Fujitora already threatened Doflamingo. So if there is anything he should do is see this fight end and take Doflamingo with him to topple the shichibukai system.

Doffy already said that there is no coming back from this, he already lost even if he wins the fight with Luffy.

Fujitora in full health can step in and take out Doflamingo whenever he wishes to. But his hands are tied as a marine at this point .
 
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