[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 740 Discussion and 741 Predictions

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Usopp is a confirmed static character. No development at all. Dissapointed with the route Oda decided to go with.
This fight will be his development there is no way that Oda will make Usopp just ran away like this something will happen that will make him realize how much of a coward he's being and he will save the day somehow. This moment is a character defining moment for Usopp.
 

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This fight will be his development there is no way that Oda will make Usopp just ran away like this something will happen that will make him realize how much of a coward he's being and he will save the day somehow. This moment is a character defining moment for Usopp.
Na him coming back is not the issue dude. He always comes back, not questioning his loyalty at all. Its the fact that nothing has changed since East Blue, he did this then and he is doing it now. We all know Usopp is not gonna just run away, he never does, its just sad that there hasn't even been a slight bit of development since when he first joined. The very definition of a static character.
 

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I feel sorry for Pica. Poor guy doesn't realize that Zoro's about to make him his pet. Now Usopp .. Very disappointed in him. I've seen Usopp do alot of cowardly things but this one takes the cake. He said he was gonna save the day if anything happens but instead he ran away and abandoned his comrades. I'm hoping that he'll turn around and realize what he's doing.

And as i've stated numerous times...Luffy is about to mop the floor with Dofla's candy ass. I want to see whats going on with Sanji and BM!


I was surprised about Luffy though. I was expecting him to just barge in that room an punch Dofla's shades off.
 
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Ussop's actions are not justifiable at all and just because it's the normal thing to do in that situation doesn't mean he should. He's a strawhat and like Doflamingo said pre timeskip the weak should hide while they can he has no right to be in the New World. No matter what redemption he has in the following chapter nothing will be able to cross off his running away here and blaming it on someone else who is currently giving it their all to stop the plan from crumbling.
 

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Ussop's actions are not justifiable at all and just because it's the normal thing to do in that situation doesn't mean he should. He's a strawhat and like Doflamingo said pre timeskip the weak should hide while they can he has no right to be in the New World. No matter what redemption he has in the following chapter nothing will be able to cross off his running away here and blaming it on someone else who is currently giving it their all to stop the plan from crumbling.
This^ abandoning his comrades shouldn't even cross his mind. Usopp is still the same coward as pre-skip. From the weak trio it seems like Chopper is the only who has evolved.
 
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I feel sorry for Pica. Poor guy doesn't realize that Zoro's about to make him his pet. Now Usopp .. Very disappointed in him. I've seen Usopp do alot of cowardly things but this one takes the cake. He said he was gonna save the day if anything happens but instead he ran away and abandoned his comrades. I'm hoping that he'll turn around and realize what he's doing.

And as i've stated numerous times...Luffy is about to mop the floor with Dofla's candy ass. I want to see whats going on with Sanji and BM!


I was surprised about Luffy though. I was expecting him to just barge in that room an punch Dofla's shades off.
What comrade did Usopp exactly abandon ? All the fairies are already screwed and there is no point for a sniper to stand around versus 2 close ranged specialists. Running is the best thing he can do now.
 

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USOP is a damn COWARD. He doesn't even have a bounty on his head.Nobody knows him either,what do you expect?

Now I am waiting for SOGEKING to come forth,you know what I mean?
XD, didn't you:

Vasu 32 said:
Welcome to light.

On serious note, I too droped it after latest chapter,will pick it up at the end of year now,and read it in bulk. What's more hilarious is that it's fan don't question the illogical things at all,and consider it the most popular series,which is naruto in reality,based on sales. they forget these thread are made by people outside japan,where it's like a dirt in terms of sales(45 million/345 million {by nov. 2013}) compared to naruto(188 million/314 million {by feb. 2013}). Learn and accept the reality~ "One piece shits on Naruto in JAPAN,and well Naruto shits on One piece OUTSIDE JAPAN".
 

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I'm a bit annoyed about Usopp running again. I never expected, nor do I wanted, hs personality to change, however in the least these two years of training should have given him finally the willpower to stand in this kind of situations. I'm pretty certain he's going to do something either way, have a change of heart or going Sogeking again, but I don't buy that stuff of that 'Robin had to be forgotten so that his character could develop'. That's what the timeskip was for, he was supposed to have already passed the point of so easily running away on the moments they are counting on him. That he has forgotten Robin really doesn't matter much as he still remembers the rest of the crew and that his job is crucial for the plan. Now he just thinks he was doing it as the only member of the Strawhats instead of two, so that stuff that he needs to do it for himself and not for anyone else doesn't make any sense. Having Robin down for the count means that Usopp finally has the chance to do something with his own strength, however that is something different than that stuff about 'him doing it for himself and not for anyone else'.

Sogeking is cool, but realistically he should never appear again after the timeskip because it indicates Usopp hasn't grown emotionally and still needs hist alter ego to save him.

And it seems I was correct about Sugar only being able to transform people with her hands, meaning the ability isn't that 'OP' as some people claimed before.

Finally go Zoro :devil:
 

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I'm a bit annoyed about Usopp running again. I never expected, nor do I wanted, hs personality to change, however in the least these two years of training should have given him finally the willpower to stand in this kind of situations. I'm pretty certain he's going to do something either way, have a change of heart or going Sogeking again, but I don't buy that stuff of that 'Robin had to be forgotten so that his character could develop'. That's what the timeskip was for, he was supposed to have already passed the point of so easily running away on the moments they are counting on him. That he has forgotten Robin really doesn't matter much as he still remembers the rest of the crew and that his job is crucial for the plan. Now he just thinks he was doing it as the only member of the Strawhats instead of two, so that stuff that he needs to do it for himself and not for anyone else doesn't make any sense. Having Robin down for the count means that Usopp finally has the chance to do something with his own strength, however that is something different than that stuff about 'him doing it for himself and not for anyone else'.

Sogeking is cool, but realistically he should never appear again after the timeskip because it indicates Usopp hasn't grown emotionally and still needs hist alter ego to save him.

And it seems I was correct about Sugar only being able to transform people with her hands, meaning the ability isn't that 'OP' as some people claimed before.

Finally go Zoro :devil:
I disagree, The fairies are down and he doesn't know Robin anymore. So he is basically alone. What is he supposed to do as a sniper versus two opponents that basically have 1 hit ko abilities ? Get into a fistfight ?

About the courage and the Sogeking part, overcoming it during the timeskip is not fair too. You can't expect him to overcome that at the half way point of the series, since becoming a brave warrior of the sea is his dream. With the same logic you could hold it against Zoro that he didn't become the World's strongest Swordsman yet during the timeskip.

Usopp needs to find a safe spot, plan a counter attack like he always (Chu, Mrs. Christmas, Luffy, etc.) does and realistically only needs to beat Sugar and turn all the gladiators against Trebol who will be in deep shit versus guys like Don, Ideo, Hack, Blue Gilly etc
Also don't rule Hakuba out.

I expected these anti-Usopp comments from a lot of people, but not from you.

To think that some Devil's Fruits have side effects like Teach can't evade hits, and Sugar's growth and memories involved with that?

Like isn't there Memory Fruit for that purpose? Sugar's ability annoys me and makes no sense by Oda. It should be enough to turn people to toys, but involve memories is stupid. I personally don't like this concept. Picking on Robin-chan that bastard Oda.
I think these side effects keep it surprising and fun, besides most of those make sense and other effects get lost in translation.

Teach has an ability to suck everything in, how overpowered would it be if he could evade it at the same time.

Violet has the ability to see through everything, but her crying whale tears comes from a Japanese saying that we don't know in the west. That's why a lot of people couldn't understand that ability.

as for the losing memories thing, comes from the fact that you lose interest in toys and forget about them when you grow up. Toys get forgotten.

So it's not bullshit, it's just an extra layer which keeps it unpredictable.
 
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for the losing memories thing, comes from the fact that you lose interest in toys and forget about them when you grow up. Toys get forgotten.
It is a fact, but it shouldn't be always true. A lot of people get attached to their toys that they never forget them.

but yeah, this is going to be annoyingly fun to see how StrawHats specially Robin gonna get through it.
 

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I disagree, The fairies are down and he doesn't know Robin anymore. So he is basically alone. What is he supposed to do as a sniper versus two opponents that basically have 1 hit ko abilities ? Get into a fistfight ?

About the courage and the Sogeking part, overcoming it during the timeskip is not fair too. You can't expect him to overcome that at the half way point of the series, since becoming a brave warrior of the sea is his dream. With the same logic you could hold it against Zoro that he didn't become the World's strongest Swordsman yet during the timeskip.

Usopp needs to find a safe spot, plan a counter attack like he always (Chu, Mrs. Christmas, Luffy, etc.) does and realistically only needs to beat Sugar and turn all the gladiators against Trebol who will be in deep shit versus guys like Don, Ideo, Hack, Blue Gilly etc
Also don't rule Hakuba out.

I expected these anti-Usopp comments from a lot of people, but not from you.
No one said, at least not me, he had to beat the crap out of both of them, but don't just turn tail so easily like that. He might even be one of the best chances to knock out Sugar because he is a long range fighter, meaning it's quite difficult for Sugar to turn him into a toy. Beating Sugar is a vital part of the plan, I don't expect of him to slaughter Trebol nor that he should show no fear towards him and Sugar, but I expected at least that by now he would have been able to make his determination overpower his fear and think of a plan to KO Sugar instead of just running away...again, like he usually does. Regardless of the situation, regardless that the Fairies are down and that he forgot Robin, his nakama are counting on him. That alone should make him, at this point of the story, able to at least not run away. Usopp is who he is, that he is easily scared is part of his character, but he shouldn't be running away on such moments anymore at this point of the story.

Also what do you think the point of a timeskip is? The timeskip covered more time than the entire first part and 2nd part together. During the timeskip everyone should have matured both physically and mentally more than during the entire first part. Again I never expected Usopp to be a fearless warrior that thinks he can beat everyone just because of the timeskip, but even if he is crapping and pissing his pants at the same time, I would expect after those two years on an island where Charles Darwin is king and natural selection his queen, that he would have the guts, the willpower to say, even if it's with knees that shake faster than Miley Cyrus' ass at the VMA, that he will not run and take down Sugar even if it is the last thing he does, that he has the confidence to do so. Instead, just like before the timeskip, he is seemingly running away again scared out of his wits, apologizing to everyone in his mind for his cowardice.

The timeskip shouldn't have made him fearless, but it should have made him at least a person that doesn't run instantly whenever it goes bad. Considering he doesn't even remember Robin, that Robin got turned into a toy did not have any influence on him running away whatsoever.

Zoro became stronger and so far he didn't really had any real test yet to see how much he has grown. This however is Usopp's test, so that's an invalid comparison. I'm not being anti Usopp, I already said I'm expecting him to do the right thing eventually, but that he is exactly the same as he was before the timeskip is my problem. He runs away, but somewhere during the running he gets a change of heart somehow, whether it's because something someone said to hem or whether he gains confidence from Sogeking, and now he is doing the exact same thing. I expected him to have lost that running-fase by now, that's my point. Running away like a whipped dog and finding a safe spot to take Sugar down are two completely different things. If he currently had the intention of doing the latter, then he wouldn't be saying stuff like asking for forgiveness.
 
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Pointless timeskip be pointless.
Yes because without the TS they wouldn't have been dead yet in Dressrosa XD

Oh wait no, that's right, they would have died on FI

edit: sorry, messed this one up, they would have died when they returned to Sabaody
 
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Although Ace's death affected Usopp that he got worried about Luffy how he's holding up and that Usopp wanna get stronger more than you can imagine. To become a greatest warrior, well, for now this is the real test for Usopp. I wonder how he's gonna get through this.
 
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