[Discussion] One Piece Is Declining in Popularity?
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A couple of things to note.
One, a forecast is a forecast. They prepare their budget for the following year on the prediction of how sells will be. Just because a forecast says its going to be 2.0mil or whatever doesn't mean it will.
Second, there are MANY factors that can contribute to why these sells went down. It could be the anime, but it also could be lack of quality, less variety, or even less innovated toys coming out.
Mom: Look son what I got you!!! A Luffy Doll.
Son: Oh thanks mom, like I don't have 20 other Luffy dolls.
Mom: But look, he says one more new catch phrase and his hat can even come off!!!
Son: <_<
Toys are a hard market to get into, and if the toys aren't something new and exciting, kids won't want them.
Lastly, AoT only beat One Piece in the first half of the year because the anime had just came out, and everyone was like, oh look new fad, lets go buy all the volumes. And they did. All the volumes of the entire AoT series was able to pass the 2 volumes Oda put out during that first half. In fact, Oda probably could have put out a third volume during that time if he wasn't so sick.
Also, AOT is ending so there really are no volumes left to be bought that people haven't bought already, so I'm sure when the 2nd half comes out, there won't be really any sales for AoT except its normal volume sales for the new volume.
Basing if OP is losing fan based on toy sales isn't much of a way to judge. Maybe judging it on how many viewers the anime gets every week or the manga volume sales would be a better indication.
I think this article is reaching and even though they say they aren't trying to say One Piece is losing fans, they really are.
One, a forecast is a forecast. They prepare their budget for the following year on the prediction of how sells will be. Just because a forecast says its going to be 2.0mil or whatever doesn't mean it will.
Second, there are MANY factors that can contribute to why these sells went down. It could be the anime, but it also could be lack of quality, less variety, or even less innovated toys coming out.
Mom: Look son what I got you!!! A Luffy Doll.
Son: Oh thanks mom, like I don't have 20 other Luffy dolls.
Mom: But look, he says one more new catch phrase and his hat can even come off!!!
Son: <_<
Toys are a hard market to get into, and if the toys aren't something new and exciting, kids won't want them.
Lastly, AoT only beat One Piece in the first half of the year because the anime had just came out, and everyone was like, oh look new fad, lets go buy all the volumes. And they did. All the volumes of the entire AoT series was able to pass the 2 volumes Oda put out during that first half. In fact, Oda probably could have put out a third volume during that time if he wasn't so sick.
Also, AOT is ending so there really are no volumes left to be bought that people haven't bought already, so I'm sure when the 2nd half comes out, there won't be really any sales for AoT except its normal volume sales for the new volume.
Basing if OP is losing fan based on toy sales isn't much of a way to judge. Maybe judging it on how many viewers the anime gets every week or the manga volume sales would be a better indication.
I think this article is reaching and even though they say they aren't trying to say One Piece is losing fans, they really are.
It's hard to judge by that alone. As if other big series haven't got the same result. Possibly people realise One Piece is not solely for kids show since we are going towards the dark side of the story for these past two years.
But just as other members have stated, there are so many factors leading to such result, and it's still an assumption of incoming net sales. It's a given if Bandai put it that way when their goods show some decline of the previous year, and to be on a safe side as well as reduce loss, they need to add it into analysis and time value of money to be counted in. But one time declination is not really a thing to determine the sales early on.
Perhaps people are more excited with games nowadays, i heard One Piece Warrior 3 has a good support from gamers and fans even though One Piece Unlimited Adventure is more fun, but then again, i'm not really a fan of any game
This has a bit to do with popularity. One Piece is still popular in Japan. There are already several reality shows make some special programs under One Piece theme in the recent years till this year. For instances;-
In Tokyo, the Tokyo tower and its surrounding area will be conquered by One Piece in 2015, if i'm not mistaken. Here's the news:
~~And other One Piece programs. Popularity is subjective. Don't worry. We'll see how it turns out for a decade later
But just as other members have stated, there are so many factors leading to such result, and it's still an assumption of incoming net sales. It's a given if Bandai put it that way when their goods show some decline of the previous year, and to be on a safe side as well as reduce loss, they need to add it into analysis and time value of money to be counted in. But one time declination is not really a thing to determine the sales early on.
Perhaps people are more excited with games nowadays, i heard One Piece Warrior 3 has a good support from gamers and fans even though One Piece Unlimited Adventure is more fun, but then again, i'm not really a fan of any game
This has a bit to do with popularity. One Piece is still popular in Japan. There are already several reality shows make some special programs under One Piece theme in the recent years till this year. For instances;-
- SMAPxOnePiece "One Piece Ou!",
- One Piece Mania Fans VS One Piece Staffs,
- One Piece songs live orchestras inside & outside Japan
- One Piece theme park by Universal Studio Japan and One Piece songs performances by selected artists on tv.
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~~And other One Piece programs. Popularity is subjective. Don't worry. We'll see how it turns out for a decade later
On average an OP volume sells ~3.2 copies in a year, it has been like this pretty much since MF, so it's popularity has been consistant for years now
One Piece Volume 73 Sales (Half Year, Released March, so basically it's sales in only 3 months = 1/4 of a year) = 2.8m
One Piece Volume 75 sold 2.7m copies in 1 month
Volume 74 sold 2.6 copies in 1 month
They all outsold AOT's best selling Volume of 2013 (Volume 9) in 2 weeks by about 400k copies
(End of year) Sales 2013
Vol 69. - 3.2m (March 2013)
Vol. 70 - 3.05m (June 2013)
Vol. 71. - 3m (August 2013)
Vol. 72 - 2.35m (November 2013)
(End of year) Sales 2012
Volume 65 - 3.3m (February 2012)
Volume 66 - 3.3m (May 2012)
Volume 67 - 3m (August 2012)
Volume 68 - 2.39m (November 2012)
(End of year) Sales 2011:
Volume 64 - 2.6m (November 2011)
Volume 63 - 3m (July 2011)
Volume 62 - 3.2m (May 2011)
Volume 61 - 3.3m (March)
The only deviation is vol 70. Which is explained by it being relealsed more than a month later in the year than it's 2012 and 2013 counterparts, the other deviation is 64 which for some reason outsold all the other volumes in monthly sales (maybe it's the awesome SHs cover)
One Piece Volume 73 Sales (Half Year, Released March, so basically it's sales in only 3 months = 1/4 of a year) = 2.8m
One Piece Volume 75 sold 2.7m copies in 1 month
Volume 74 sold 2.6 copies in 1 month
They all outsold AOT's best selling Volume of 2013 (Volume 9) in 2 weeks by about 400k copies
(End of year) Sales 2013
Vol 69. - 3.2m (March 2013)
Vol. 70 - 3.05m (June 2013)
Vol. 71. - 3m (August 2013)
Vol. 72 - 2.35m (November 2013)
(End of year) Sales 2012
Volume 65 - 3.3m (February 2012)
Volume 66 - 3.3m (May 2012)
Volume 67 - 3m (August 2012)
Volume 68 - 2.39m (November 2012)
(End of year) Sales 2011:
Volume 64 - 2.6m (November 2011)
Volume 63 - 3m (July 2011)
Volume 62 - 3.2m (May 2011)
Volume 61 - 3.3m (March)
The only deviation is vol 70. Which is explained by it being relealsed more than a month later in the year than it's 2012 and 2013 counterparts, the other deviation is 64 which for some reason outsold all the other volumes in monthly sales (maybe it's the awesome SHs cover)
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jiraiya lives
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pretty much considering one chapter takes like 2-5 minutes to read but they stretch it out to like 20 minutes to fit as an episode in the anime.
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Exactly thats why I just read the manga and go back and watch the parts I wanted to see animated. Honestly the Anime should take a year off or be seasonal. The last thing we need is filler.
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That and OP being pushed to a later time slot would be nice because if I remember correctly, it airs in the morning or something, right? That way we won't get some scenes censored but that isn't a big deal as the pacing & animation is.
YellowFang
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The anime is basically fillers all the time.
When i watch it I just skip to the important parts. Marine ford arc was sooo prolonged it was ridiculous.
They really need to take a page from HxH anime. That one was very solid.
When i watch it I just skip to the important parts. Marine ford arc was sooo prolonged it was ridiculous.
They really need to take a page from HxH anime. That one was very solid.
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Jellal Fernandes
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Anime got a little bit boring for me so i stopped watching. And i think this Arc has gone long enough, i think it beat Skypia for longest arc. Overall i think it's going strong. Oda keeps doing work with each chapter that comes out.
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The anime is boring I agree. Nothing much happens for 15 minutes. The rest are intro and recap.
Each anime episode should cover 2/3 manga chapters
Each anime episode should cover 2/3 manga chapters
Not really, its because of marineford that ppl actually think that OP has fallen behind, marineford was a great thing on the story and dont hope that every arc to be as good as that, but thats what ppl really think, that every upcoming arc should be as good as MF but it wont here some sales:
There is a huge difference between 2008 to 2010 even though its only 2 years difference u see:
U go from 5,9m to 32.3m, the difference is huge and as we know during 2008 oda drew TB arc and during 2009 with 14m sales he was drawing Amazon lily and ID arc and at the point where OP got those huge numbers in 2010 it was the year when Marineford was made so it went from 14m to 32m and in 2011 it was post war arc even bigger then 2010 to the point it got 37m sales, but it got down cuz marineford ended and ppl actually though every arc should have the quality of marineford so we have 2012 with 23m sales and 2013 with 18m sales the year when FI and PH arcs were made, its not like these arcs are bad but everyone can agree that their quality isnt as high as the highest point of the story in sales and everything else which is marineford.
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There is a huge difference between 2008 to 2010 even though its only 2 years difference u see:
U go from 5,9m to 32.3m, the difference is huge and as we know during 2008 oda drew TB arc and during 2009 with 14m sales he was drawing Amazon lily and ID arc and at the point where OP got those huge numbers in 2010 it was the year when Marineford was made so it went from 14m to 32m and in 2011 it was post war arc even bigger then 2010 to the point it got 37m sales, but it got down cuz marineford ended and ppl actually though every arc should have the quality of marineford so we have 2012 with 23m sales and 2013 with 18m sales the year when FI and PH arcs were made, its not like these arcs are bad but everyone can agree that their quality isnt as high as the highest point of the story in sales and everything else which is marineford.
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Jimmy page
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Actually you are wrong
The only reason OP reached 32 and 37m sales is because (just like AOT atm) at the time of MF everyone rushed to buy old volumes
Volume 59 (climax of MF) sold 2.7m copies as the best selling manga volume in 2010 but last year, the best selling volume, Volume 72 sold 3.2m copies
The best selling volume of OP (and any manga) in it's first week was volume 61 (which ofc has the TS) with 2m copies sold in it's first week but the latest volume, volume 75, sold 1.7m copies in 3 days
One Piece also keeps breaking "initial print records", it beat Harry Potter some time ago (HP initial print was 2.9m) and it kept breaking its own records, the current OP volume already had a 4m initial print
I don't give a ???? About how the anime* is doing, the worse it does the higher the chance they might actually make an effort with it
but the One Piece manga isn't losing ANY popularity
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I wasnt really copying what this forneverworld guy said, since i didnt even watch the video at all, I just read what the ugy wrote and how he thinks that OP is declining in popularity so I thought that MF was the reason to it but somehow @Algalon I think has proven me wrong but anyway OP is still doing pretty good and its not even near its climax so I too think that OP didnt lose any popularity, considering how most of ppl nowadays read it online without buying it and still the numbers of OP are massive.