One big contradiction caused by manga

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Hey guys, please i really wish you will pay much much attention reading and trying to get a lil bit of what i m trying to put out here. I discovered this when making my other thread. First it was stated by manga(obito) that the sage taught the people how to used chakra this statement in other words seems like chakra existed before the sage was even born but lately madara stated that chakra came from the juubi. He also stated that sage's mom was the first human to obtain this chakra after that, she gave birth to a child that already has the chakra trait. Paying close attention to the two statement, if sage's mom was the first and the only one to have juubi's chakra( yes she was the only one because after the fruit was taken I don't see juubi letting others taking another fruit it wasn't stated ) how come other people has it before the was born?(in reference to obito's statement) Even if the sage's mom gave birth to other children before the sage, they should have the same abilities with the sage's it shouldn't be the sage to teach them but the teaching him how to use chakra not to talk of that obito's statement even clearly seemed like chakra existed decades before the sage was born.
SUMMARY:eek:bito: the juubi was on rampage,the sage came and defeated it he also taught the people(probably people even older than him) how to use chakra.
MADARA:sage's mom brought about chakra, sage was second to have chakra.(does this also mean that every one with chakra is sage's lineage?)
The only way I see this two statements not contradicting each other is if the manga say one is lying(madara or obito) or that every one that possesses chakra is from the sage's lineage.they is no way for anybody out of the sage's lineage should have chakra the sage's mom was the only one that ate the fruit which resulted to chakra.
What's your oppinion on this^^ guys? I just wish some here will get what I m trying to say
 

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nice thought. I guess one of them is lying
 

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It was never said they had chakra before he was born. Simply, people acquired chakra somehow AFTER the Sage was born and he then taught them how to use it.
 

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It was never said they had chakra before he was born. Simply, people acquired chakra somehow AFTER the Sage was born and he then taught them how to use it.

^^^^THIS^^^^

There are no contradictions
 

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no offcourse not, the sage freed the chakra inside the three thus giving everyone chakra and he learned them how to use it...

my only question is hashirama senju he uses mokuton and can create treees doesnt that seem odd like maybe he can summon a nother tree or ssomething or maybe he can control it?
 

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It was never said they had chakra before he was born. Simply, people acquired chakra somehow AFTER the Sage was born and he then taught them how to use it.

Yes, I believe this is right. Very interesting proposal though OP
 

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there's still a lot of mysteries behind the So6P
but I don't see any contradictions at all...
people didn't have chakra until the Sage was born,
though it's yet to be explained how other people acquired it,
it's certain that it's the Sage who taught them...
 

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Madara didn't say that Kaguya brought about chakra, but that she was the first human to take it and utilize it.

The statements don't contradict whatsoever.

Shinju > Kaguya eats fruit and gains chakra > Gives birth to Hagoromo > Hagoromo takes control of rampaging Juubi > Teaches people how to use chakra.
 

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no offcourse not, the sage freed the chakra inside the three thus giving everyone chakra and he learned them how to use it...

my only question is hashirama senju he uses mokuton and can create treees doesnt that seem odd like maybe he can summon a nother tree or ssomething or maybe he can control it?
Not at all it was stated that the senju where the only children of the sage.
My question again is, how come the if the senju and the uchihas re the one children of the sage how come we have other people with chakra because the only way of being born with chakra is if you re related to the sage so my conclusion is that every one is under sage's lineage.
 

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Not at all it was stated that the senju where the only children of the sage.
My question again is, how come the if the senju and the uchihas re the one children of the sage how come we have other people with chakra because the only way of being born with chakra is if you re related to the sage so my conclusion is that every one is under sage's lineage.

Nope. The sage who had chakra knew the truth about it. He taught others on how to awaken and use it. However, using chakra is borrowing juubi's power even if you didn't eat the fruit.
 

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Madara didn't say that Kaguya brought about chakra, but that she was the first human to take it and utilize it.

The statements don't contradict whatsoever.

Shinju > Kaguya eats fruit and gains chakra > Gives birth to Hagoromo > Hagoromo takes control of rampaging Juubi > Teaches people how to use chakra.

Lol the people he taught did they also eat the fruit? Cause the only way is if they also ate the fruit or if they re they had same mother with the sage please try to look deeper into what I'm trying to say here.
 

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Nope. The sage who had chakra knew the truth about it. He taught others on how to awaken and use it. However, using chakra is borrowing juubi's power even if you didn't eat the fruit.

No if so lee should be able to awaken it .
 

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It was never said they had chakra before he was born. Simply, people acquired chakra somehow AFTER the Sage was born and he then taught them how to use it.

He gots it hahah
 

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there's still a lot of mysteries behind the So6P
but I don't see any contradictions at all...
people didn't have chakra until the Sage was born,
though it's yet to be explained how other people acquired it,
it's certain that it's the Sage who taught them...

Yes but ain't you curious that the people he taught most of them may be older than him?
 

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I THINK EVERYONE WITH CHAKRA MUST BE FROM SAGES LINEAGE COS IT WAS MENTIONED THAT YOU CAN ONLY GET CHAKRA THEN IF U ATE OF THE FRUIT THAT EXIST ONCE A MILLENIUM.
AND THE MANGA HAS MANY CONTRADICTIONS TRUST ME SOME TIMES KISHI GETS MIXED UP WITH INFOS
E.G: MINATO SAID HE NESTED IN NARUTO TILL THE TIME NARUTO WOULD NEED HIS HELP AND THAT HE KNOWS EVERY THING NARUTO HAS GONE THROUGH, BUT WAS SURPRISED WHEN HE SAW NARUTO USE SENJUTSU LIKE JIRAIYA SENSEI.
WHEN EDO MADARA SUMMOND KYUUBI IN NARUTO CLONE KYUUBI ASKED IF IT WAS MADARA THAT IS SUMMONING HIM WHILE NARUTO HAD ATTACKED MADARA BEFORE THAT INCIDENT WHY WASNT KYUUBI AWARE OF IT THAT MADARA HAS BEEN EDO'D.
SO MANY CONTRADICTIONS YA KNOW
 

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You can only borrow the juubi power by eating its fruit or maybe during s06p's time as jinchuriki he distributed the chakra
 

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It was never said they had chakra before he was born. Simply, people acquired chakra somehow AFTER the Sage was born and he then taught them how to use it.

Yes it was never stated but examining obito's part of the story it seems like chakra existed long before the sage was born.your statement is like saying they all had instant chakra if so why didn't sage's mom bother to ate the fruit. I repeat the only way they other clan can have chakra is if they ate the fruit like sage's mom did or if everyone with chakra is from sage's lineage.
 

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Lol the people he taught did they also eat the fruit? Cause the only way is if they also ate the fruit or if they re they had same mother with the sage please try to look deeper into what I'm trying to say here.

Like us, Shinobi clans share a common ancestor; Hagoromo.
 

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I THINK EVERYONE WITH CHAKRA MUST BE FROM SAGES LINEAGE COS IT WAS MENTIONED THAT YOU CAN ONLY GET CHAKRA THEN IF U ATE OF THE FRUIT THAT EXIST ONCE A MILLENIUM.
AND THE MANGA HAS MANY CONTRADICTIONS TRUST ME SOME TIMES KISHI GETS MIXED UP WITH INFOS
E.G: MINATO SAID HE NESTED IN NARUTO TILL THE TIME NARUTO WOULD NEED HIS HELP AND THAT HE KNOWS EVERY THING NARUTO HAS GONE THROUGH, BUT WAS SURPRISED WHEN HE SAW NARUTO USE SENJUTSU LIKE JIRAIYA SENSEI.
WHEN EDO MADARA SUMMOND KYUUBI IN NARUTO CLONE KYUUBI ASKED IF IT WAS MADARA THAT IS SUMMONING HIM WHILE NARUTO HAD ATTACKED MADARA BEFORE THAT INCIDENT WHY WASNT KYUUBI AWARE OF IT THAT MADARA HAS BEEN EDO'D.
SO MANY CONTRADICTIONS YA KNOW

At last someone got a bit of what my point is tanx
 
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