[Theory] On Zetsu.

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Something just striked me. Zetsu eats dead bodies right? What if Zetsu consumed Madara after the battle? After all it is said that Madaras body was nowhere to be found. What if Zetsu or Zetsu clone ate it and thus Tobi was born? Not exactly Madara and not exactly someone else. He thinks of himself as Madara but calls himself "a shell of former self". He talks about Madara in third person as if he's not him exactly. He doesn't have any of Madaras abilities, tho he has his memories and his knowledge. Perhaps it has something to do with Zetsus recording abilities? He has tons of sharingans and we haven't seen him with disarmed sharingan which could suggest that he's not realy an Uchiha.
Tobi has bodyparts like Zetsu.

Also, Tobi was very suprised that Kabuto found Madaras dna :


But than again who and what the fuk is real Zetsu? It doesn't look like human, more like a someones creation. He doesn't fit in the story. I wish we could know more about him >< He is the biggest mystery so far and everything spins around him.


I was trying to find similiar threads in google but I bumped on this one :



This goes fine together with my own theory. If Zetsu created Tobi than he really isn't just a lackey or some subordinate of his. They are on the same level tho I feel like with the recent events, Tobi gains more power and starts to act as if he's in charge.

Also I found this :



Tobi says "this is nothing more than living cells which I stole from Hokage during our battle.."

If Kabuto has Edo Madara and he presumably knows who Tobi is how can Tobi say that it was his fight? He wouldn't have any reason to keep on that "I am Madara charade" in front of Kabuto.
Only logical explanation to me would be that Zetsu accompanied Madara at that time and Zetsu stole those cells. Or Tobi really is Madara

I'll add manga pages to backup my words if there's any interest in this theory.
 
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thats a really good point about madara being eaten, iv never really thought about it that way

and seeing as we know f*** all about zetsu he could be like 200 years old for all we know lol
 

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Something just striked me. Zetsu eats dead bodies right? What if Zetsu consumed Madara after the battle? After all it is said that Madaras body was nowhere to be found. What if Zetsu or Zetsu clone ate it and thus Tobi was born? Not exactly Madara and not exactly someone else. He thinks of himself as Madara but calls himself "a shell of former self". He talks about Madara in third person as if he's not him exactly. He doesn't have any of Madaras abilities, tho he has his memories and his knowledge. He has tons of sharingans and we haven't seen him with disarmed sharingan which could suggest that he's not realy an Uchiha.
Tobi has bodyparts like Zetsu. Also, Tobi was very suprised that Kabuto found Madaras dna.

But than again who and what the fuk is real Zetsu? It doesn't look like human, more like a someones creation. He doesn't fit in the story. I wish we could know more about him >< He is the biggest mystery so far and everything spins around him.


I was trying to find similiar threads in google but I bumped on this one :



This goes fine together with my own theory. If Zetsu created Tobi than he really isn't just a lackey or some subordinate of his. They are on the same level tho I feel like with the recent events, Tobi gains more power and starts to act as if he's in charge.

Also I found this :



Tobi says "this is nothing more than living cells which I stole from Hokage during our battle.."

If Kabuto has Edo Madara and he presumably knows who Tobi is how can Tobi say that it was his fight? He wouldn't have any reason to keep on that "I am Madara charade" in front of Kabuto.
Only logical explanation to me would be that Zetsu accompanied Madara at that time and Zetsu stole those cells. Or Tobi really is Madara

I'll add manga pages to backup my words if there's any interest in this theory.
I think tobi is a clone zetsu of madara. but zetsu is a mystery and fully could have copied madaras body. if there is a zetsu hashiramma why couldnt there be a zzetsu madara
 

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but if zetsu ate madara, how would orichimaru/kabutomaru get his dna for edo tensei?
That's what I said in my post:



Tobi was really suprised that Kabuto obtained Madara's dna. He could have found his blood on some weapon, his clothes, his hair sample.. Anyway, like Kabuto said: "It's complicated."
 
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I think tobi is more of a mystery than zetsu. Orochimaru managed to get the first hokage's dna so i see no reason why he cant get madara's.
but oro could of just raided shodaimes grave and got samples seeing as he was from konoha.

and i dissagree zetsu is an annoying bug on my nose that won't go away! im pressing the button to say yes i want to know more but its not telling me anything!

tobi on the otherhand we're given lil snippets about him like some of his techs what he's made out of (which is zetsu but we still dont know what the hell zetsu is!!)
and his role in things

damn you zetsu!! stop toying with my curiosity!!
 

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Zetsu was created from Madara and Hashirama cells was he not? TObi i s Madara but possibly two bodies like Muu with his splitting.
There are hints from Kishimoto that White Zetsu could be made of Hashiramas cells although nothing official. Black Zetsu is still a mystery.

As for Tobi being Madara that's kind of bullsh right there. Basicly, you're saying that Tobi saw himself in a coffin summoned by Kabuto and didn't give a sh1t?

Going by your logic I would have thought Madara would want to kill Kabuto or atleast make him release the summon because as long as Kabuto has Madara summoned as Edo Tensei Tobi can't revive "himself".

Have you ever seen Tobi giving atleast some fuks about Edo Madara? Nop, not atleast one after the meeting in Madaras lair.
He goes on with his own plans and why wouldn't he? He has perfect body, with two of the strongest doujutsus and some of the strongest and craziest abilities ever known to ninja world. Not to talk about 6 Paths of Tobi that comes along with him.

If he's realy Madara he must have planned this all out than why would he need Nagato to revive himself? Imo, this doesn't make sense.

As for people thinking Tobi wanted Nagato to use Rinne Tensei on him, that's also bullsh.
Tobi says this tech was supposed to be FOR HIM not ON HIM as many people tend to believe.
I am pretty sure Tobi wanted to revive Juubi with Rinne Tensei not Madara. Everything in MANGA points to that. Even Nagato knew about Juubi. He called it the ultimate weapon of destruction.

Anyway, to sum it up for people who thinks Tobi is Madara - Why doesn't Tobi just kill Kabuto, seal Madara and revive him himself with Rinne Tensei (heloooo Tobi too has rinnegan)?
Seriosly, get over it. Tobi is not Madara. He's either completely new character or he's some kind of Zetsu Clone.
 
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