Ok... this izanami stuff is REALLY getting on my nerves - I really need to address it

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I can agree with most of what you said. But I do want to point out, that at least based off what itachi said, izanami wont just work on anybody.

Can it work on Madara? Possibly. However I dont think izanami was used.

My opinion though.


But you really shouldnt get ticked off because others dont think the same way as you. Even if they dont see the logic. We are here on NB to DISCUSS. Not just AGREE or stfu if you disagree/see something different.

(what im getting at, is there is nothing wrong with someone saying Izanami wont work on madara. Saying it as a matter of fact is wrong, because it is unconfirmed. You can say it probably wont(or will) and give your support for why you think what you think)

I fully agree with the people just saying stuff with no supporting evidence, and just makeing spam, and it to be impossible for a diologue.


Anyways have a great day man!
You're right. I shouldn't be ticked off... but i was because it seemed like they were just riding madara's ****. you know.. just saying basically because he is madara he is invincible.

so really... i want to ask them.. if you think he is invincible why even bother with anything? I mean, obviously the outcome will be he wins.. but everyone knows deep down inside that's not the case... madara isn't invincible.

Anyways, you're right about the philosophy that I shouldn't get pissed about other people's opinions since it does no one any good in the long run

But like you, I would like to see some more discussion and not just statements that have no basis... because that's not discussing.
 

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Kabuto was really smart and yet he fell for Izanami pretty sure it could happen to madara as well , i will agree with you that i don't think he will use it for the fact that, that would leave him one eye short weak and handicaped.
Kabuto wasn't an Uchiha (didn't even know that such a Jutsu even exists) while Madara is the most knowledgeable/skilled Uchiha U_U

it's not just a matter of intelligence, it's more about knowing a specific Jutsu, how it works and how to stop it/not to fall for it.
 
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Madara knew the handseals to untie himself from the Edo Tensei no Jutsu.
He's a God.

A mere Sausage won't be able to use Izanami on Madara.
You fanboys are trying too hard.
 

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Your first paragraph and your second paragraph contradict each other.

It's funny how you contradict yourself. Basically... don't tell me that I shouldn't give sasuke feats he may not have based on manga assumptions and then tell me that the basis for saying madara may have a feat he currently does not have is based on assumptions that he may have it because of another assumption.
They don't contradict at all...

1) Sasuke can't use Izanami. Nothing suggests so. All he has is knowledge on the technique. Having knowledge on the technique ≠ having the ability to use it. When the manga explicitly states that he can use it or explicitly shows him using it then there is no denying it then. But for now? We say he doesn't have it.

2) Madara's case is different from Sasuke. Madara can avoid techniques like KA and Kamui because he has the ability to do so. KA is not an unstoppable technique as some people say because it has failed because. Any ninja who can detect foreign chakra can counter it. Kamui can be avoided through precise reaction time and precise timing regarding when obito becomes vulnerable and tangible. I'm just using these as an example....

As far as Izanami goes? Madara is shown to have advanced intellect and we know that he has a lot of knowledge on loads of techniques. Since he is an uchiha and Izanami is an uchiha dojutsu, there is no reason for him to not know the In's and Out's of that technique. The same way that he knew all about Edo tensei, he knew how to counter the technique. The same could be said about Izanami. Nothing suggests either that he can't avoid izanami.

On top of that, we don't really know how efficient Sasuke would be with Izanami if he were to use it.

To those saying "Izanami was made to counter those who don't want to accept their fate"... well madara clearly doesn't want to accept his fate - which is to die.
His whole life after near death was to come back to life 100 %.
I'll make another point here about Izanami. I find that the quoted here is subjective.

Obviously he does not want to die just like most people. That doesn't mean that Izanami can use that fact to stop him and that doesn't mean that he is having the same issues as kabuto. Madara's goal was to come back to life so he can execute his Eye of the Moon Plan.

He watched his own brother use it. Sying he doesnt know is stupid. By your logic if you dont know how to do a jutsu you cant use it. ~_~

Ot/op i agree. Hes not that stupid but still
What? How does watching his brother automatically give Sasuke the ability to use the technique? ROFL.
 
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Madara's goal was to come back to life so he can execute his Eye of the Moon Plan. .
This is all I need actually. To use Izanami actually makes even MORE sense now. Casting Izanami on Madara may actually be strategic due to the following possible scenario that may happen:

Madara intends for eye of the moon plan to be fulfilled.
Izanami throws madara a curve ball. He has two fate paths. Eye of the moon plan is fulfilled - but he dies. Eye of the moon plan is not fulfilled - Madara lives.

Two possible fates and in each one, Madara tries to change the outcome. He wants his cake and to eat it too.
Izanami wouldn't let this happen.
 

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He watched his god forsaken brother do the hand signs for the jutsu. And just because the jutsu uchiha based means jack. We saw danzo use the jutsu. Obito knew at the last second. Knowledge of a jutsu's existence and using/defending is totally different. Just because madara knows about it doesnt mean he cant be effected by it. Who knows he never fought someone who used it against him.
 
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