Ok people, Madara deserves heaps of respect whether you like him or not.

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This thread is still on? Btw, the real credit goes to Gobb, not me. :lmao: I came up with none of the ideas. XD
 
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That feeling when you destroy SS with EMS.
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Transcendence said:
Yet SS was still standing, PS completely removed, Kurama asleep and Madara dead, all in that sequence...
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"SS standing" or what was left of it.. Just that Hashirama is like the perfect counter to Madara, because like it's obvious Madara was much greater in Power with that Kurama Susanoo and etc, but everytime he attacked Hashirama always pulled out some Mokuton Jutsu to completely negate it or even turn it against him, be it anyone else at the same strenght without Mokuton, Madara would've raped that guy.

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Sasukes PS shits on both and that's without bijuu susanoo.
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LOL, did you really just say that?

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MrLukyso said:
"SS standing" or what was left of it.. Just that Hashirama is like the perfect counter to Madara, because like it's obvious Madara was much greater in Power with that Kurama Susanoo and etc, but everytime he attacked Hashirama always pulled out some Mokuton Jutsu to completely negate it or even turn it against him, be it anyone else at the same strenght without Mokuton, Madara would've raped that guy.



LOL, did you really just say that?

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I'm just saying. You implied he destroyed it, but it was still standing in some facet of its being. And your excuse reeks of the common plot excuse. Hashirama was always more powerful than Madara. Only after leeching off his rival's power could he hope to surpass Hashirama. The rest doesn't matter.
 
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Transcendence said:
I'm just saying. You implied he destroyed it, but it was still standing in some facet of its being. And your excuse reeks of the common plot excuse. Hashirama was always more powerful than Madara. Only after leeching off his rival's power could he hope to surpass Hashirama. The rest doesn't matter.
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So the fact that Madara outsmarted Hashirama and knew a jutsu called Izanagi doesn't matter? Rinnegan Madara Fodderized Hashirama, end of story. U_U

As for the plot excuse, I mean you have to be blind to not see it, Madara was made into this Feared, Legendary Shinobi, while Hashirama was his Perfect Counter, had every jutsu to counter Madara, which I mean never happens logically and Im not talking like overpowering and countering, straight up just negating the other Jutsu.
 
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MrLukyso said:
So the fact that Madara outsmarted Hashirama and knew a jutsu called Izanagi doesn't matter? Rinnegan Madara Fodderized Hashirama, end of story. U_U

As for the plot excuse, I mean you have to be blind to not see it, Madara was made into this Feared, Legendary Shinobi, while Hashirama was his Perfect Counter, had every jutsu to counter Madara, which I mean never happens logically and Im not talking like overpowering and countering, straight up just negating the other Jutsu.
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Outsmarted? That had nothing to do with Hashirama. It had to do with Madara's plan given to him on a plate by Black Zetsu from the tablet. Rin'negan Madara doesn't exist without Hashirama, so what's your point? Take away Hashirama's chakra and he's EMS Madara again and loses even more badly against said Hashirama.

And? Hashirama was equally as legendary. So much so that someone with Kabuto's level of intelligence called his power a fairy tail like Hagoromo's yet he never put Madara in that same sentence. What jutsu negation are you talking about? Mokuton is a perfect counter for Bijuu, not Uchiha techniques. It doesn't inherently absorb Susano'o chakra, hence why we saw Madara slicing some constructs down from time to time with his Susano'o. Hashirama is just blatantly stronger. His techniques are stronger and he's just stronger. That's all there is to it.
 
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Transcendence said:
Outsmarted? That had nothing to do with Hashirama. It had to do with Madara's plan given to him on a plate by Black Zetsu from the tablet. Rin'negan Madara doesn't exist without Hashirama, so what's your point? Take away Hashirama's chakra and he's EMS Madara again and loses even more badly against said Hashirama.

And? Hashirama was equally as legendary. So much so that someone with Kabuto's level of intelligence called his power a fairy tail like Hagoromo's yet he never put Madara in that same sentence. What jutsu negation are you talking about? Mokuton is a perfect counter for Bijuu, not Uchiha techniques. It doesn't inherently absorb Susano'o chakra, hence why we saw Madara slicing some constructs down from time to time with his Susano'o. Hashirama is just blatantly stronger. His techniques are stronger and he's just stronger. That's all there is to it.
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Yes, outsmarted. Hashirama thought Madara was dead for Ages, they all thought Madara's body was in the place they put it for Ages, while he was plotting all that time. If you think it's only because of Hashirama that Madara got Rinnegan you are plaing stupid, Hagoromo gave that Information in the first place, Madara used his Brains and Izanagi to get that Power and Carry on with the Plan. Yes Madara outsmarted Hashirama, got a powerup that he deserved ( He went through a legendary fight to get it ) and in the end Madara won, he Fodderized Hashirama, got Juubi, cased IT. U_U Basically what I am saying is that Madara looked at the bigger Picture, he even sacrified his Eye for that.


Fair points on that one. :) I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, I look at it from another perspective.
 
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100th reply and I am out. Oh and make sure to wear Madara's wig every Saturday to pay respect. (U____U).
 
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MrLukyso said:
"SS standing" or what was left of it.. Just that Hashirama is like the perfect counter to Madara, because like it's obvious Madara was much greater in Power with that Kurama Susanoo and etc, but everytime he attacked Hashirama always pulled out some Mokuton Jutsu to completely negate it or even turn it against him, be it anyone else at the same strenght without Mokuton, Madara would've raped that guy.



LOL, did you really just say that?

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Lmao I would really like to see you prove me wrong. Oh wait let me guess, your one of those Maddie fanboys who thinks his PS can destroy all things right?

If so that's nothing more than false hype, his PS couldn't even beat the wood Golem. But yet my post is facepalm worthy. :rolleyes:

In response to your first paragraph, no just no, SS shitted on Bijuususanoo. It got hit with a crap ton of TBB barrage + PS sword attacks and that still wasn't enough to take it down. Mokuton didn't affect the way the battle played out. SS is a tank.
 
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OG sama said:
You can't possibly compare Swirl zetsus SS to Hashiramas.
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I always hear that excuse. Zetsu is made up of Hashirama's DNA and chakra. Karin tanked it. Madara didn't. That is all.
 
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Strykervenom said:
I always hear that excuse. Zetsu is made up of Hashirama's DNA and chakra. Karin tanked it. Madara didn't. That is all.
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But there is a noticeable difference between the two though, Swirl zetsus doesn't even have a 1000 hands and is much smaller. And simply having Hashis DNA doesnt mean you have his same level of mastery. Or else Yamato alone would have been capable of SS. But he was only able to do so with swirl zetsu strengthen his wood style with his own.
 
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