Ok people, Madara deserves heaps of respect whether you like him or not.

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Madara deserves more respect for being able to stand up to a monster like Hashirama despite not having any special MS abilities. Given the ridiculousness of SS(Shinsuusenju for people whom don't get it) it's only fair that Madara got to use Kurama Susano'o; he was merely trying to even the odds, but even that was inferior to it. U_U
Yes. What you said is right

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How could anyone hope to match this w/o anything Rikudou related? :|

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Just being big in size doesn't mean it's going to be similar in power. Hashirama needed all 1000 punches of that Buddha to destroy Madara's Susanoo, whereas Madara severed the main armament of the Buddha with a couple of Susanoo magatamas.
 

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Hashirama barely defeated him. I'm laughing myself to death when I see posts like "Hashi stomped him" and shit.

In other words, I agree with the OP.
Imo Hashirama vs madara VOTE was PNJ'd...madara said he was one of the few that could see through Hashirama's clone, yet right after there final attack he deactivates his sharingan? He didn't even look as battered as hashirama tbh...
 

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Madara was presumably too tired and out of chakra at this point.

Also, while Hashi took it high diff, Madara has the most powerful eye in Uchiha history (at this point), a giant mountain slicing structure, the most powerful of the Bijuus and other stuff on his side, and still lost, if anything, he failed hard.
 

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Madara was presumably too tired and out of chakra at this point.

Also, while Hashi took it high diff, Madara has the most powerful eye in Uchiha history (at this point), a giant mountain slicing structure, the most powerful of the Bijuus and other stuff on his side, and still lost, if anything, he failed hard.
The Person can be called failed hard if they has overwhelm power but still lose to a person below him in power.

Exp: JJ Obito.

But in this cases Hashirama is superior than Madara in power.
 

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Given that he had something like PS Susanoo-bijuudama swords at his disposal, it's surprising he couldn't kill Hashirama before he could bring out SS.
 

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Given that he had something like PS Susanoo-bijuudama swords at his disposal, it's surprising he couldn't kill Hashirama before he could bring out SS.
He bring that out first and then Hashirama shows his larger than life Jutsu to Madara and overpowered him.

Madara is lucky because Hashirama didnt use Gate of the great god on him and Kurama which in turn will make Hashirama job more easy.

You never know Hashi. His power is to godly compared to Madara.
 
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Madara is a character very underrated. Some think that it has not thickness only because during the war It was not complaining as Obito...

On the strength it was inferior to Hashirama, but was the only one who could compete with him and it was a legendary ninja feared :)
 
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Madara is a character very underrated. Some think that it has not thickness only because during the war It was not complaining as Obito...

On the strength it was inferior to Hashirama, but was the only one who could compete with him and it was a legendary ninja feared :)
Madara ? Underrated ?
Nope.
 

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Given that he had something like PS Susanoo-bijuudama swords at his disposal, it's surprising he couldn't kill Hashirama before he could bring out SS.
Yes, Madara's powers were overwhelmingly strong... stronger than Hashirama's powers, and way stronger than what Hashirama could bare. But they weren't very effective or efficiently utilized. Madara's attacks hardly landed on Hashirama. Are you missing the fact that nearly every time Madara attacked Hashirama, Hashirama either blocked his attacks, restrained them, deactivated his powers or deviated his attacks away from him, never allowing any of Madara's attacks to take affect on him. You gave an example of PS Susanoo Bijuudama sword as Madara's powers. It was incredibly strong and Hashirama would not be able to take it even with his strongest shield. So did you see that Hashirama deviated the attack to the other side of the sea using 5 MASSIVE barriers, never allowing that PS Susanoo Bijuudama sword to land on him?
 

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Yes, Madara's powers were overwhelmingly strong... stronger than Hashirama's powers, and way stronger than what Hashirama could bare. But they weren't very effective or efficiently utilized. Madara's attacks hardly landed on Hashirama. Are you missing the fact that nearly every time Madara attacked Hashirama, Hashirama either blocked his attacks, restrained them, deactivated his powers or deviated his attacks away from him, never allowing any of Madara's attacks to take affect on him. You gave an example of PS Susanoo Bijuudama sword as Madara's powers. It was incredibly strong and Hashirama would not be able to take it even with his strongest shield. So did you see that Hashirama deviated the attack to the other side of the sea using 5 MASSIVE barriers, never allowing that PS Susanoo Bijuudama sword to land on him?
Yes, but it's surprising that, for an example, he did not use the PS sword Bijuudama he used on the shinsenjuu to try to defeat Hashirama, it's not like the five barriers would've helped.
 

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Madara deserves more respect for being able to stand up to a monster like Hashirama despite not having any special MS abilities. Given the ridiculousness of SS(Shinsuusenju for people whom don't get it) it's only fair that Madara got to use Kurama Susano'o; he was merely trying to even the odds, but even that was inferior to it. U_U
I agree with everything else but that, his Susanoo was probably the best one since Indra.
But i dont give a damn if you're wrong because you're Sulraj <3
 
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Its way too late in the game for a Madara appreciation thread don't you think? He has heaps of respect that's why he's still being worshipped by his fanboys.
 

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Yes, but it's surprising that, for an example, he did not use the PS sword Bijuudama he used on the shinsenjuu to try to defeat Hashirama, it's not like the five barriers would've helped.
The only problem is Hashirama's attacks are considerably quicker than Madara's and because of that he can stop Madara. Hashirama could have done some other thing like pulling out wooden arms from the ground to restrain the Susanoo sword before he could throw it or even coat it with bijuudama (bijuudama creation takes time so Madara could be vulnerable to attacks on top of the fact that Hashirama's attacks are already quick) just like he did when Madara tried to swing his sword, because when Madara pulls out his sword, Hashirama knows he's busted and immedistely leaps to hinder the attack somehow.
 
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