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Well I will admit that I am a Minato fan, but even if you won't believe me, I am also a Itachi fan.
Minato has been dead the whole series. He is the legendary dead man who was so great and blablabla..
You know the story...
Some minato zealots are bothersome and illogical so you shut up because you don't want to be like them. What is even worse is the fact I have Minato avatar, so clearly I must be one of them and should just shut up and die... But enough is enough. It is time to put Itachi fans in their place.
My conclusion of Minato vs Itachi is based on a few very simple things.
Itachi CAN'T AFFORD to use Yata-mirror against Minato. It would only serve to waste his valuable chakara. It is the same logic with all abilities that are not instant. Not being instant is not the only reason why it is senseless though...
Yata-mirror does not have 360 coverage, what's even worse, itachi would lose valuable stamina and focus... Not smart and too expensive against Minato.
Even if ftg tards can be tiring, ftg is not overrated... It IS the best offence and defense ability in the naruto verse. (excluding rinnegan users and the first... yeah, ok.. Garra too..) An OBVIOUS point would be to consider a shield against bullet that is aimed at your back. No matter how fast Itachi is, he can't... (We are talking about Minato here, not a crippled Nagato..)
Minato is a father of the main character for a reason... and dead for a reason. His ability would give any writer a trouble to challenge... Without a doubt he could push pain/nagato to their limits without others help. We have literally seen no limit how fast Minato can jump between his kunais. Mid air combo jumping is no problem to him(remember how he almost got A).
If there was a race on taking down a army in shortest amount of time, then Minato would win.
(ehem... rinnegan users, first and jinurikis are not allowed to compete, here is an icecream:ice
Sure, it won't be easy for Minato, but I don't see how others can see it is subjective. If we look at strength and weaknesses of their abilities, the clear winner is Minato.... sry...
Itachi will use his sharingan to spot Minatos kunais. Giving him the opportunity to place black flames on their locations.
The problem is that you can't assume Minato is a static still target. (More about black flames in a bit..)
Minato will use every bit of his time to his advantage. His ability is based on staying out of sight of his enemy, living in their blind spots... We have already seen how fatal it is to underestimate FTG. His marking can be placed everywhere, behind stones, trees, ant, pokemon.. anywhere. This underestimation was a mistake which A made. Surprisingly, B predicted the possibility of him jumping behind him - A needed insight to fight someone like Minato.
Lets say Itachi decides to counter Minatos kunais. He aims his kunais to divert Minatos kunais from their path. Minato can then simply jump too one of these knifes (impossible to guess because it is a random guess), and target Itachi and his kunais/kunai at the same time, countering that counter while forcing Itachi response or retreat from a incoming kunai. Forcing kunais to one place do make sense, but not that easy in the practice.
If Itachi uses black flames, then Minato will simply jump to next point and end it quickly thereafter. (This is the trouble with Minato, just like the samurai, his tactics don't give his enemies any time to mold any chackra or use abilities that are not instant in use.) If there is any waste of ability, then that will only haste to their coming fate.
We know that Minato is faster then A, and A can doge the flames... (Actually, you don't need A speed to run away from black flames...), so simply by trying to burn all of Minatos kunai will be a great risk. The time Itachi burns one kunai is the time Minato can use to end it... Imagine if you where fighting Minato.. Think of the stress...
Another misunderstanding I have seen from many on this base is to think Minato does not have any sensor ability. There is a hint of his sonar ability when he placed his markings on the ground in kakashi gaiden.. He did not only notice, but counted how many shadow clones where out there. It seems his markings give him some kind of a sonar ability. How else would you explain how he was able to see their location and guess justly that there where 20 shadow clones. He had too see they where all a-like, making him assume they where clones... You can't limit your premise by ignoring this fact, it did happen in the story.
Itachis only hope is to use his illusions followed by a black flame. This can only happen if he gets enough time to actually see and predict movements of the Yellow flash without having him teleporting. Sharingan strengths lies in predicting enemies moves which almost gives them ability to see the future. In order to do this, you must see the sequences of moves that the enemy is making. To have someone look at his eyes, he predicts the enemy moves and knows where to place himself to get a clear shot for his illusion.
Now try to use this tactic against someone who just teleports around like a troll.
Minato is simply wrong match for Itachi. Kisame would have better time against Minato with his seawater, or maybe not... I guess Minato would simply teleport the sea away up in the sky... Letting Kisame drop down in high altitude and summon the food-card-destroyer tech to seal his fate .__.
So to sums things up.
Dangerous to use heavy abilities like y-mirror and t-sword.
Must use illusion and black flames while not being able to spam it.
Itachi could use black flames as a shield like sasuke did, giving him time to muster a stronger offence.
I can't see how that would work as Minato could simply make use of his summons and crush Itachi where he stands in numerous ways. Check-made if Itachi tries to jump out of self made prison of black flames.
I doubt Minato would be able to use his dead god seal against Itachi for the same reasons as he has to stay on the move against Itachi, but I don't think he has too and he is always on the move when he needs to...
Warrior is only as good as his weapon of choice. If the weapon of choice is rendered useless, then you are in trouble. Sword can't win against bullet. It is that simple.
The only fact is that Itachi is cooler then Minato. He has a story of conflicts. Man who made a selfless sacrifice and a man who is able to find a way even in a impossible situation. He was able to analyze a way out from Nagatos black hole. Using his intelligence, he might predict Minatos moves and even use ftg against him... So maybe it is subjective after all...
Who cares anyway. Minato and Itachi fans are tards.. We are all tards!! You ****ing tard..xd
Well I will admit that I am a Minato fan, but even if you won't believe me, I am also a Itachi fan.
Minato has been dead the whole series. He is the legendary dead man who was so great and blablabla..
You know the story...
Some minato zealots are bothersome and illogical so you shut up because you don't want to be like them. What is even worse is the fact I have Minato avatar, so clearly I must be one of them and should just shut up and die... But enough is enough. It is time to put Itachi fans in their place.
My conclusion of Minato vs Itachi is based on a few very simple things.
Itachi CAN'T AFFORD to use Yata-mirror against Minato. It would only serve to waste his valuable chakara. It is the same logic with all abilities that are not instant. Not being instant is not the only reason why it is senseless though...
Yata-mirror does not have 360 coverage, what's even worse, itachi would lose valuable stamina and focus... Not smart and too expensive against Minato.
Even if ftg tards can be tiring, ftg is not overrated... It IS the best offence and defense ability in the naruto verse. (excluding rinnegan users and the first... yeah, ok.. Garra too..) An OBVIOUS point would be to consider a shield against bullet that is aimed at your back. No matter how fast Itachi is, he can't... (We are talking about Minato here, not a crippled Nagato..)
Minato is a father of the main character for a reason... and dead for a reason. His ability would give any writer a trouble to challenge... Without a doubt he could push pain/nagato to their limits without others help. We have literally seen no limit how fast Minato can jump between his kunais. Mid air combo jumping is no problem to him(remember how he almost got A).
If there was a race on taking down a army in shortest amount of time, then Minato would win.
(ehem... rinnegan users, first and jinurikis are not allowed to compete, here is an icecream:ice
Sure, it won't be easy for Minato, but I don't see how others can see it is subjective. If we look at strength and weaknesses of their abilities, the clear winner is Minato.... sry...
Itachi will use his sharingan to spot Minatos kunais. Giving him the opportunity to place black flames on their locations.
The problem is that you can't assume Minato is a static still target. (More about black flames in a bit..)
Minato will use every bit of his time to his advantage. His ability is based on staying out of sight of his enemy, living in their blind spots... We have already seen how fatal it is to underestimate FTG. His marking can be placed everywhere, behind stones, trees, ant, pokemon.. anywhere. This underestimation was a mistake which A made. Surprisingly, B predicted the possibility of him jumping behind him - A needed insight to fight someone like Minato.
Lets say Itachi decides to counter Minatos kunais. He aims his kunais to divert Minatos kunais from their path. Minato can then simply jump too one of these knifes (impossible to guess because it is a random guess), and target Itachi and his kunais/kunai at the same time, countering that counter while forcing Itachi response or retreat from a incoming kunai. Forcing kunais to one place do make sense, but not that easy in the practice.
If Itachi uses black flames, then Minato will simply jump to next point and end it quickly thereafter. (This is the trouble with Minato, just like the samurai, his tactics don't give his enemies any time to mold any chackra or use abilities that are not instant in use.) If there is any waste of ability, then that will only haste to their coming fate.
We know that Minato is faster then A, and A can doge the flames... (Actually, you don't need A speed to run away from black flames...), so simply by trying to burn all of Minatos kunai will be a great risk. The time Itachi burns one kunai is the time Minato can use to end it... Imagine if you where fighting Minato.. Think of the stress...
Another misunderstanding I have seen from many on this base is to think Minato does not have any sensor ability. There is a hint of his sonar ability when he placed his markings on the ground in kakashi gaiden.. He did not only notice, but counted how many shadow clones where out there. It seems his markings give him some kind of a sonar ability. How else would you explain how he was able to see their location and guess justly that there where 20 shadow clones. He had too see they where all a-like, making him assume they where clones... You can't limit your premise by ignoring this fact, it did happen in the story.
Itachis only hope is to use his illusions followed by a black flame. This can only happen if he gets enough time to actually see and predict movements of the Yellow flash without having him teleporting. Sharingan strengths lies in predicting enemies moves which almost gives them ability to see the future. In order to do this, you must see the sequences of moves that the enemy is making. To have someone look at his eyes, he predicts the enemy moves and knows where to place himself to get a clear shot for his illusion.
Now try to use this tactic against someone who just teleports around like a troll.
Minato is simply wrong match for Itachi. Kisame would have better time against Minato with his seawater, or maybe not... I guess Minato would simply teleport the sea away up in the sky... Letting Kisame drop down in high altitude and summon the food-card-destroyer tech to seal his fate .__.
So to sums things up.
Dangerous to use heavy abilities like y-mirror and t-sword.
Must use illusion and black flames while not being able to spam it.
Itachi could use black flames as a shield like sasuke did, giving him time to muster a stronger offence.
I can't see how that would work as Minato could simply make use of his summons and crush Itachi where he stands in numerous ways. Check-made if Itachi tries to jump out of self made prison of black flames.
I doubt Minato would be able to use his dead god seal against Itachi for the same reasons as he has to stay on the move against Itachi, but I don't think he has too and he is always on the move when he needs to...
Warrior is only as good as his weapon of choice. If the weapon of choice is rendered useless, then you are in trouble. Sword can't win against bullet. It is that simple.
The only fact is that Itachi is cooler then Minato. He has a story of conflicts. Man who made a selfless sacrifice and a man who is able to find a way even in a impossible situation. He was able to analyze a way out from Nagatos black hole. Using his intelligence, he might predict Minatos moves and even use ftg against him... So maybe it is subjective after all...
Who cares anyway. Minato and Itachi fans are tards.. We are all tards!! You ****ing tard..
xd
