NarutoVsGoku
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Re: Tobi is Fugaku (Sasuke and Itachis father)
or 2. you are just ignoring them.
nobody is saying minato jumped in or out of reaper god. i said that before being sealed in reaper god, minato sealed part of himself in naruto. madara could have done the same thing where he sealed himself in another body before dying to the 1st.
thats one very good possibility.
mu is not just a clone. and he didnt remove the seal on his other half. mu split himself into 2 identical beings. its not a shadow clone. so in other words basically 1 half of mu is sealed the other is besides edo madara.
madara could have somehow used the jutsu mu used to split himself before fighting or dying to the 1st (but obviously madara may have had to learn it from mu which is possible since onoiki claimed that he fought madara once. mu may have been in the fight also.)
thats possibilty 2. not very good but still possible.
the biggest and best possibility is inazagi. i dont think i should have to explain. madara fights 1st. during fight madara knows hes losing but gets hashirama cells during fight and use inazagi to make tobi madara.
now i can find possible reasons to there being a tobi madara and edo madara co existing but how do you explain fugaku being tobi?
you made a point that the uchiha curse makes uchihas power hungry but fugaku proved that by planning a civil war. from what has been shown fugaku loved his clan, nothing shown that he would be motivated to help kill them or kill his own wife.
nothing proves that zetsu was even present to fake fugakus death.
tobi throughout the manga has shown significant knowledge that nobody but madara would have. not fugaku. madara would have known about the sage because of having the ems and rinnegan. fugaku was never shown to have either.
when edo madara was revived he said something that resembled exactly what tobi said, that nagatos power was supposed to revive him. if madara said it and tobi said it its a good indicator that they are one of the same.
tobi talked about the history of the leaf and history of senju and uchiha. it is more probable that madara would have this knowledge, not fugaku. madara talked about hashirama and told naruto that he hated him and respected him more than anyone in the world. madara most likely would say that, not fugaku.
despite madara being revived by edo tensi all the evidence still points to tobi being madara. you said it yourself we are talking about a world where by making hand gestures a clothed man can become a naked lady. it is very possible for tobi to still be madara while madara is ressurected, especially when we have seen a ninja who is sealed in death reaper still appear in narutos conscious, a dead mother appear in her sons conscious and a ninja who can split himself.
1 you may not fully understand the points im making
or 2. you are just ignoring them.
nobody is saying minato jumped in or out of reaper god. i said that before being sealed in reaper god, minato sealed part of himself in naruto. madara could have done the same thing where he sealed himself in another body before dying to the 1st.
thats one very good possibility.
mu is not just a clone. and he didnt remove the seal on his other half. mu split himself into 2 identical beings. its not a shadow clone. so in other words basically 1 half of mu is sealed the other is besides edo madara.
madara could have somehow used the jutsu mu used to split himself before fighting or dying to the 1st (but obviously madara may have had to learn it from mu which is possible since onoiki claimed that he fought madara once. mu may have been in the fight also.)
thats possibilty 2. not very good but still possible.
the biggest and best possibility is inazagi. i dont think i should have to explain. madara fights 1st. during fight madara knows hes losing but gets hashirama cells during fight and use inazagi to make tobi madara.
now i can find possible reasons to there being a tobi madara and edo madara co existing but how do you explain fugaku being tobi?
you made a point that the uchiha curse makes uchihas power hungry but fugaku proved that by planning a civil war. from what has been shown fugaku loved his clan, nothing shown that he would be motivated to help kill them or kill his own wife.
nothing proves that zetsu was even present to fake fugakus death.
tobi throughout the manga has shown significant knowledge that nobody but madara would have. not fugaku. madara would have known about the sage because of having the ems and rinnegan. fugaku was never shown to have either.
when edo madara was revived he said something that resembled exactly what tobi said, that nagatos power was supposed to revive him. if madara said it and tobi said it its a good indicator that they are one of the same.
tobi talked about the history of the leaf and history of senju and uchiha. it is more probable that madara would have this knowledge, not fugaku. madara talked about hashirama and told naruto that he hated him and respected him more than anyone in the world. madara most likely would say that, not fugaku.
despite madara being revived by edo tensi all the evidence still points to tobi being madara. you said it yourself we are talking about a world where by making hand gestures a clothed man can become a naked lady. it is very possible for tobi to still be madara while madara is ressurected, especially when we have seen a ninja who is sealed in death reaper still appear in narutos conscious, a dead mother appear in her sons conscious and a ninja who can split himself.
