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Re: tobi is obito

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Re: Tobi a living shadow

Tobi is a wanna be Madara who probably cut himself at nights speaking Madara's name in the fetal position. When Madara died he wanted to fill his shoes and is still trying to do so, despite the fact that he's already surpassed him (most likly). Tobi was surprised to see Madara in the last coffin because he was a gitty as a little school girl seeing his idol.

jk lol, what you said sounds like a good argument.
 

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Re: If Tobi isn't Madara , how did he control the fox during attack on Konoha ?

what about when they showed Tobi in flash backs with longer hair similar to what we know Madara looks like, then his mask was different also, and he has the fan and what not too. But later his hair was short and now we get the madara who died during the hashirama fight back from the dead? IDK my mind is ****in blown and i love it cant wait for nxt week
 

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The Masked Man: Planned immortality and power.

Wow... there are a lot of theories about today's chapter... I'm new here, so forgive me if do something wrong... I'd just like to get this out there, and out of mind, while getting people's thoughts on it. Unfortunately... I'm going to bet that by the time I finish posting this... several theories that are close to this will have probably popped up too...

Anyhow, my stance is that the masked man we know as Tobi is the real Madara. Naturally, the revived Madara is also real.

At some point, Madara probably split his soul (Making him weaker than he probably planned), but guessing when and how he did it is hard to guess, especially since the revived Madara has knowledge of Nagato, who is far too young to have been alive when Madara supposedly died.

"So it finally happened... It would appear that little brat Nagato managed to grow." -Madara Uchiha.

The quote above is a reference to what my revelation is... Masked Madara in order to live long enough for his goals to come to fruition, split part of his soul, and transferred it to an immortal body. Transferring his entire soul wouldn't have worked for this theory. Why? He transplanted/gave the power of the Rennegan into/to Nagato as an infant. Hence, why he has always claimed the Rennegan to be his. Assuming the plan went as planned, when Nagato grew up, and gained mastery over the Rennegan, he could than serve as the cornerstone in Madara's plan. If Masked Madara were to die and be revived by a Rennegan user, he could reunite with the rest of his soul, and regain his true power in an immortal body.

To explain further why it makes sense is because Madara could not die and use the Rennegan to revive himself. He needed someone who could use the Rennegan, other than himself. However, why Madara didn't have Nagato do this earlier though is hard to say. Perhaps Madara didn't quite trust Nagato yet, and hence sent him to capture the Nine Tails, and commit additional evil acts, making him more submissive to his will...?

On a semi-interesting/related note... Speaking of the fact that Madara Uchiha's true body has been revived, there are some interesting points... Even with it as his trump card, Kabuto's inner dialogue indicates that even with his trump card, Madara, that he could/can not guarantee Masked Madara's cooperation and willingness to bend to Kabuto's will. Kabuto's inner dialogue also names Masked Madara, Madara.

Also, Masked Madara does exhibit abilities that no normal person should have. He comments that he is now two out of six paths, if I'm correct. Assumingly than his current body is some form of his original body, and the First Hokage (I'm most iffy on this, so feel free to correct me).

Now to clear up some other things... Originally what was above was pushed down, but I decided that I just needed to get it out of the way, instead of covering some of my bases first...

Although you could say that Zetsu could have been close to the battle where Madara supposedly died, and replicated his appearance, and chakra; that simply wouldn't explain the origin of Zetsu, now would it? It also wouldn't explain why his chakra pattern doesn't freak people out anymore (Madara's chakra felt cold/evil/large, if I recall correctly). Nor would it make sense in the sense of, why wouldn't Zetsu have replicated himself as many other ninja as well before recent events? Also, the mannerisms of Black Zetsu and Masked Madara are quite different... Also, the side we always see of Madara except on one or two occasions looks nothing like Black Zetsu. The Black Zetsu entity is always on the right, and it along with White Zetsu takes orders from Masked Madara. Actually... now that I think of it, Masked Madara's left side is always obscured in darkness. Even so, that doesn't mean much as Madara has shown Kisame his entire face before, and Kisame didn't think anything was off, apparently.

Zetsu is supposedly a by product of the First Hokage's cells. At least White Zetsu is. Black Zetsu is a bit more mysterious, especially since he has no problem confronting a Kage, which puts his battle prowess likely much higher than its White counterparts. And also to clear this up, if Black Zetsu was originally whole, and Masked Madara is now his other half, than why would Black Zetsu split himself up into another being, instead of becoming whole with a new power? Nevertheless, even if part of Masked Madara is partially a Zetsu, that doesn't mean that he's actually a Zetsu, especially since all the other Zetsu take orders from him.
 

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Re: Poll for the man behind the mask lets see if NB gets it right

if tht is indeed madara uchiha , wheres his EMS ? and ithink tobi is kagmi uchiha , its the only one tht makes sense , he'd be about the 4th hokages age , nd hes the only uchiha tht hasnt died unless he died during the uchiha clan massacre then this theory is completly wrong. but ithink its kagmi
 

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Re: tobi is obito

its for sure now
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All that is sure, is that Madara is dead, and has been IWResurrected. The rest is uncertain, and use the search button... There has been a tremendeous amount of fair arguments for, but especially against a Tobi/Obito theory. I would tend to think Obito is dead, but cannot say for sure that he isn't tobi...
 

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Re: The Masked Man: Planned immortality and power.

Wow... there are a lot of theories about today's chapter... I'm new here, so forgive me if do something wrong... I'd just like to get this out there, and out of mind, while getting people's thoughts on it. Unfortunately... I'm going to bet that by the time I finish posting this... several theories that are close to this will have probably popped up too...

Anyhow, my stance is that the masked man we know as Tobi is the real Madara. Naturally, the revived Madara is also real.

At some point, Madara probably split his soul (Making him weaker than he probably planned), but guessing when and how he did it is hard to guess, especially since the revived Madara has knowledge of Nagato, who is far too young to have been alive when Madara supposedly died.

"So it finally happened... It would appear that little brat Nagato managed to grow." -Madara Uchiha.

The quote above is a reference to what my revelation is... Masked Madara in order to live long enough for his goals to come to fruition, split part of his soul, and transferred it to an immortal body. Transferring his entire soul wouldn't have worked for this theory. Why? He transplanted/gave the power of the Rennegan into/to Nagato as an infant. Hence, why he has always claimed the Rennegan to be his. Assuming the plan went as planned, when Nagato grew up, and gained mastery over the Rennegan, he could than serve as the cornerstone in Madara's plan. If Masked Madara were to die and be revived by a Rennegan user, he could reunite with the rest of his soul, and regain his true power in an immortal body.

To explain further why it makes sense is because Madara could not die and use the Rennegan to revive himself. He needed someone who could use the Rennegan, other than himself. However, why Madara didn't have Nagato do this earlier though is hard to say. Perhaps Madara didn't quite trust Nagato yet, and hence sent him to capture the Nine Tails, and commit additional evil acts, making him more submissive to his will...?

On a semi-interesting/related note... Speaking of the fact that Madara Uchiha's true body has been revived, there are some interesting points... Even with it as his trump card, Kabuto's inner dialogue indicates that even with his trump card, Madara, that he could/can not guarantee Masked Madara's cooperation and willingness to bend to Kabuto's will. Kabuto's inner dialogue also names Masked Madara, Madara.

Also, Masked Madara does exhibit abilities that no normal person should have. He comments that he is now two out of six paths, if I'm correct. Assumingly than his current body is some form of his original body, and the First Hokage (I'm most iffy on this, so feel free to correct me).

Now to clear up some other things... Originally what was above was pushed down, but I decided that I just needed to get it out of the way, instead of covering some of my bases first...

Although you could say that Zetsu could have been close to the battle where Madara supposedly died, and replicated his appearance, and chakra; that simply wouldn't explain the origin of Zetsu, now would it? It also wouldn't explain why his chakra pattern doesn't freak people out anymore (Madara's chakra felt cold/evil/large, if I recall correctly). Nor would it make sense in the sense of, why wouldn't Zetsu have replicated himself as many other ninja as well before recent events? Also, the mannerisms of Black Zetsu and Masked Madara are quite different... Also, the side we always see of Madara except on one or two occasions looks nothing like Black Zetsu. The Black Zetsu entity is always on the right, and it along with White Zetsu takes orders from Masked Madara. Actually... now that I think of it, Masked Madara's left side is always obscured in darkness. Even so, that doesn't mean much as Madara has shown Kisame his entire face before, and Kisame didn't think anything was off, apparently.

Zetsu is supposedly a by product of the First Hokage's cells. At least White Zetsu is. Black Zetsu is a bit more mysterious, especially since he has no problem confronting a Kage, which puts his battle prowess likely much higher than its White counterparts. And also to clear this up, if Black Zetsu was originally whole, and Masked Madara is now his other half, than why would Black Zetsu split himself up into another being, instead of becoming whole with a new power? Nevertheless, even if part of Masked Madara is partially a Zetsu, that doesn't mean that he's actually a Zetsu, especially since all the other Zetsu take orders from him.
what are u gay this isnt super man :roku:
 

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Re: tobi is obito

Well ladys and gentlemen its been a week and that time has arrived again so our lucky winner this week is none other then Kaddie3
What have you won you might be asking yourself
Well here it is!!


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LOL The Famous Prize From ReXii!! xd
 

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Re: Poll for the man behind the mask lets see if NB gets it right

Hm. I'm not really that convinced that it's Izuna anymore. I think I'm gonna form my own hypothesis and assume it's someone that's not on this poll.

But it being Izuna is the second to most logical conclusion in my opinion.
 

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Tobi's (BODY IS!!)

Shisui's body, which is why kabuto failed to summon him. Kishi hinted something in a suttle way:



Figure it out

 
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Re: Poll for the man behind the mask lets see if NB gets it right

Whos kagami uchiha??before people start critisizin me.....i looked at the naruto characters data here on the base and he wasnt on it,and quite frankly ive never heard of him till today.
 

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Re: Why does Tobi have to be someone?

Fugaku Uchiha
Hikaku Uchiha
Inabi Uchiha
Itachi Uchiha
Izuna Uchiha
Kagami Uchiha
Madara Uchiha
Mikoto Uchiha
Obito Uchiha
Sasuke Uchiha
Setsuna Uchiha
Shisui Uchiha
Tekka Uchiha
Teyaki Uchiha
Uruchi Uchiha
Yakumi Uchiha
Yashiro Uchiha
 
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