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Who is the man behind the mask

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Re: Now that we know the 6th Coffin is Madara...

NarutoVsGoku said:
Because Tobi claime he was a shell of his former self. He in his present state (at the time) couldn't have matched up agaisnt his past self. That may be a reason why he was scared.

Also he may have just been scared by kabutos knowledge and ability to did the body.

Edo tensi does revive the soul. But it's still possible that Tobi is a remnant of MADARAS SOUL OR WILL. Just like how MINATO SOUL WAS SEALED BUT REMNANT OF HIMWAS IN NARUTOS CONSCIOUS AND KUSHINA IS DEAD BUT PART OF HER WAS STILL IN NARUTOS CONSCIOUS.

Madara may have sealed his conscious, part of his chakra, soul, spirit or will etc in another body (Zetsu?) before he died, plan B TO IF HE LOST AGAISNT THE 1st.

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It's all good on the caps. The thing about the whole Remnants of Madara's soul still doesnt make sense in terms of Edo Tensei. Minato sealed his soul in the Death reaper, he sealed his chakra into Naruto which is why he was able to still talk to him during the pain fight, but he was not able to be resurrected via Edo Tensei when Orochimaru fought the 3rd. I do get where you're coming from though but it just doesn't make sense in terms of being revived.

Tarheel09 said:
when Kabuto revealed the 6th coffin to him in chap 490 (i think that was the chapter) even afterwards he still kept calling tobi, madara uchiha....so tobi must be a madara but just a very weak former shell..as many people have already posted.
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Yeah he called him madara but he was saying it sarcastically. Basically mocking Tobi, and at the same time saying "I won't tell anybody your secret" and saying sh*t like "oh you go by madara now". made me believe that Tobi wasn't Tobi

SosukeAizen said:
Madara has probably learned the splitting jutsu from Mu and used it on himself thus Tobi was born that would explain why Tobi had the same plans and will of Madara.Tobi was probably surprised at how Kabuchimaru got his hands on Madara's DNA.Tobi was probably planning on Nagato reviving Madara.
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Haha Madara was all powerful back in the day I would assume Mu learned the technique from him rather vice versa.
 
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Re: solving of breaking the mask of tobi 100% spoiler

yondaimeminato said:
Obito = Mask Man/Tobi

I don't say this just because their names are similar. Not long ago, the theory of obito being the Mask Man/Tobi was just as simple as the relationship of the names that both Obito and Tobi have in common. However, for the past couple of chapters the theory of obito being tobi grew larger and larger. Now, there are events in naruto manga that links obito to tobi.

1. The name
2. The double personality
3. The similar eye power that kakashi and tobi possess
4. The missing grave/body of Obito
5. The secret of Rin's Death
6. The appearance of Tobi
7. The appearance of Edo Uchiha Madara
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i agree with u completely dude but still a 50 50 that it might not be obito and the other 50 it might be obito
 
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Re: As I Said (Yes I know who Tobi Is)

Shisui is dead. Why would Tobi get mad at Nagato for reviving the people he killed at the Leaf then say "that ability was suppose to be for me". Why would the right upper side of his face look like its aged so much if its Shisui and Shisui was around Itachi's age. How does Madara(edo) also know Nagato and is in shock that he was not revived through Nagato's Rinnegan.
 
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Re: Poll for the man behind the mask lets see if NB gets it right

that's shisui. shisui upgraded his body flicker tech with what the masked guy has, and no wonder he always wants to get the eye. he just wants what's his to begin with.
 
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Re: As I Said (Yes I know who Tobi Is)

Theory? No... You will see when Ao confront's Tobi & says Shisui!!?? It's coming soon. Look at my previous post. I stated that Madara was in the 6th box long ago. Is it not obvious that after Ao left Tobi Appears to rescue saskue? Ao is the key to Tobi taking off his mask.
 
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Re: As I Said (Yes I know who Tobi Is)

Zato said:
Shisui is dead. Why would Tobi get mad at Nagato for reviving the people he killed at the Leaf then say "that ability was suppose to be for me". Why would the right upper side of his face look like its aged so much if its Shisui and Shisui was around Itachi's age. How does Madara(edo) also know Nagato and is in shock that he was not revived through Nagato's Rinnegan.
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As I said, what transpired is more important than who's behind the mask ( Shisui ) his body wasn't located for this very reason.
 
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Re: TOBI IS THE ELDEST SON of the SAGE

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Tobi: "Exactly as I planned...Today Senju's will of fire will die."

Ever since I first saw these words I've been pondering about two things:

1. Tobi talks of Senju like its a person. Why not say "the Senju" or "Senju Clan"? And if it is a person who is this so called Senju? Could it be the "father" of the Senju clan? in other words the SO6P's younger son.(I'll call him Senju for the rest of the post and I'll call his elder brother Uchiha...Just for shits and giggles:D)

2. Why is Tobi so fixated on crushing the "Will of Fire"? Why is it such a personal issue for him? First, what is the will of fire? I think it is the belief that love is key to peace. And who, more than anyone, would truly detest such a belief? The Sage's Elder Son, Uchiha, of course. Because his father, the SO6P, chose Senju as the SO6P's successor because of this belief.

According to Tobi, The Elder brother inherited the Sage's eyes. So maybe that is why Tobi claims to be the second SO6P and also how he was able to actually "give" Nagato his Rinnegan. This would also explain why Tobi appears to have a transplanted Sharingan.

Another thing to note is that Tobi barely seemed to need any time to adapt to the Rinnegan after implanting it into himself.
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Of course, there are even more things that make Tobi=the elder son seem very, very unlikely. Examples:
- How could he live so long? Could it be Good genes? Or the Rinnegan's "Creation of all things" jutsu maybe?
- Why would he give his Rinnegan to an Uzumaki and implant Sharingans? Could it be because he needed someone else to synchronize with Gedo Mazo? And...maybe also because he needs a sharingan with Tsukuyomi to amplify it to the level of Mugen Tsukuyomi?
- Why would his plan only spring into action now?
- Where has he been this whole time and what has he been up to?
 
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