[Theory] [Official]The Giant Tobi Discussion/Theory Thread
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Re: Tobi = Nagato with argumentation
not exactly. There is one real Nagato. One that lived to the times of Madara and the 1st. He was a child back then.
We actually dont know why the first and Madara fought. maybe it was because of nagato, the one we call Tobi?
not exactly. There is one real Nagato. One that lived to the times of Madara and the 1st. He was a child back then.
We actually dont know why the first and Madara fought. maybe it was because of nagato, the one we call Tobi?
Re: Tobi = Nagato with argumentation
yeah i believe this has something to do with nagato. but then again if tobi is nagato, what might be his relationship w/ uchiha clan massacre? tobi (whom itachi believed was madara) was the one wanting to do revenge.
yeah i believe this has something to do with nagato. but then again if tobi is nagato, what might be his relationship w/ uchiha clan massacre? tobi (whom itachi believed was madara) was the one wanting to do revenge.
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Re: who is tht mask guy if he's not madara uchiha?
yeah right answer u won the grand prize lol
Re: who is tht mask guy if he's not madara uchiha?
ILL SPECULATE OROCHIMARU... ALWAYS WANTED UCHIHA TRAITS LONG LIFE ETC.
also the madara guy says so nagato brat grew? how did he know bout nagato and did they exist in same time line? ... i suspect he has a rinnegan in the other hidden eye.. was not shown. and how can the masked guy know so much info on people if he has not lived that long
ILL SPECULATE OROCHIMARU... ALWAYS WANTED UCHIHA TRAITS LONG LIFE ETC.
also the madara guy says so nagato brat grew? how did he know bout nagato and did they exist in same time line? ... i suspect he has a rinnegan in the other hidden eye.. was not shown. and how can the masked guy know so much info on people if he has not lived that long
Naruto Namikazze
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Re: who is tht mask guy if he's not madara uchiha?
obito hmm but y would he do such a thing?
Gyakusetsu
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Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara
Yeah, but Scotch is a drunk. You have to overlook those things it was just the booze talking.
Naruto Namikazze
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Re: who is tht mask guy if he's not madara uchiha?
he has also mentioned tht he gave nagato rinnegan so wht does tht mean....o boy naruto's gonna take a good twist
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Tobi is Fugaku (Sasuke and Itachis father)
Sorry for another Tobi=? thread, but I started thinking about it, and well...
We know Tobi has been working with zetsu as far back as Narutos birth when Tobi attacked Kushina and fought Minato because when Minato hits Tobi, his arm gets all goo-like and almost falls off! ( link coming)
So with that in mind, it's totally possible that on the night Itachi slayed the uchiha, that Fugaku used a zetsu clone in his place to fool itachi into thinking he was killed. ( remember that even after death a zetsu clone can retain it's false appearance, like it did when it pretended to be Kisame)
Only 2 uchiha survived the slaughter, and both were Fugaku's own sons, which makes me think that was his plan all along. He wanted his sons to destroy konaha because the Senju clan had risen to power while the uchiha clan was left behind.
Being the leader of the Uchiha clan, I'm sure he had access to the hidden room as well as forbidden uchiha jutsu. That could be why Tobi knew what Izanagi was when he saw Danzo use it.
Also, if you look back at when Tobi attacked Kushina and Minato, we saw fugakus wife several times, but never saw Fugaku even though he was in charge of the konaha police. Isn't that suspicious when the head of police isn't around when shut is going down?
We also know that the Villiage elders suspected a Uchiha clan member had been the one to attack, and maybe they were right.
The only thing that doesn't fit is that we know Tobi was once in control of the mizukage jinchuriki, so would he have been missing from konaha alot? Not if he left a perfect zetsu clone at the village every time he left....
Thoughts?
Sorry for another Tobi=? thread, but I started thinking about it, and well...
We know Tobi has been working with zetsu as far back as Narutos birth when Tobi attacked Kushina and fought Minato because when Minato hits Tobi, his arm gets all goo-like and almost falls off! ( link coming)
So with that in mind, it's totally possible that on the night Itachi slayed the uchiha, that Fugaku used a zetsu clone in his place to fool itachi into thinking he was killed. ( remember that even after death a zetsu clone can retain it's false appearance, like it did when it pretended to be Kisame)
Only 2 uchiha survived the slaughter, and both were Fugaku's own sons, which makes me think that was his plan all along. He wanted his sons to destroy konaha because the Senju clan had risen to power while the uchiha clan was left behind.
Being the leader of the Uchiha clan, I'm sure he had access to the hidden room as well as forbidden uchiha jutsu. That could be why Tobi knew what Izanagi was when he saw Danzo use it.
Also, if you look back at when Tobi attacked Kushina and Minato, we saw fugakus wife several times, but never saw Fugaku even though he was in charge of the konaha police. Isn't that suspicious when the head of police isn't around when shut is going down?
We also know that the Villiage elders suspected a Uchiha clan member had been the one to attack, and maybe they were right.
The only thing that doesn't fit is that we know Tobi was once in control of the mizukage jinchuriki, so would he have been missing from konaha alot? Not if he left a perfect zetsu clone at the village every time he left....
Thoughts?
Re: Tobi = Nagato with argumentation
He also helped to kill Uchiha clan, a REAL uchiha wwouldnt do this. But because the clan didnt wanted revenge for the slaughter of Madara, they were guilty as well.
And because, it seems Tobi/nagato really loved Madara, he took his name to become feared, respected in the ninja world.
As i said. Tobi had a relationship to Madara. Because the first killed Madara (we know he did, look at his outfit and his age, its perfectly the same as he fought the first). He wanted revenge for his, maybe teacher, friend? Or Madara was controlling Tobi (Nagato). He simply wanted revenge and attacked the HLeaf.
He also helped to kill Uchiha clan, a REAL uchiha wwouldnt do this. But because the clan didnt wanted revenge for the slaughter of Madara, they were guilty as well.
And because, it seems Tobi/nagato really loved Madara, he took his name to become feared, respected in the ninja world.
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Re: Tobi is Fugaku (Sasuke and Itachis father)
finally, i was making the same thread, buy you beaten me to it, i agree that he is 1 of the posibilities, but i personally think he might have used Izanagi instead of Zetsu clone xd
finally, i was making the same thread, buy you beaten me to it, i agree that he is 1 of the posibilities, but i personally think he might have used Izanagi instead of Zetsu clone xd
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Re: Who Is Tobi
Ya i agree with you. But that don't exclude my timeline history, only puts one more question, what was the relation of tobi with madara. Maybe is like you said is Obito. That for itself, answer a lot of questions.
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