[Theory] [Official]The Giant Tobi Discussion/Theory Thread

[BarBoBot]

Re: Tobi is Fugaku (Sasuke and Itachis father)

What? How could Tobi be madara? Edo tensei brings your soul back from the dead and puts it into a sacrifice body.

How could madara be dead AND alive? Only those that are dead but not sealed can be summoned with IWR...

Simple answer to your questions: the uchiha clan is cursed to crave power. They have been killing family members and friends to obtain MS. If Fugaku was truly afte power, he would kill those close to him to try and unlock MS just like those that did it before him.

How did Fugaku know so much about Madara? Well Madara was one of the most renowned ninja of all time, it's not like he was a shut-in.

Besides, madara was once leader of the uchiha and Fugaku was also leader of the uchiha. Isn't it reasonable to think that as leader he was informed about things others did not get to know?

 

[Owarij]

Re: slightly important? regarding madara and tobi

Actually look at the real madara's eyes again, he has edo tensei eyes, he is clearly dead. Now look at tobi eyes he is very much alive. This will stop this tobi=madara thread. Cant believe people still think he is madara

? edo tensei revives the person in the state right before they died, if izuna did give him only 1 eye, or maybe they traded 1 eye each and both got 1 ems each, it would explain why tobi needs to cover the other sharingan since it's most likely not his, and would have implanted 1, it explains why his mask has 1 hole ,


tobi's 2ndeye could very easily be translplanted , and that is the reason he would cover it with the mask, similar to kakashi , or why he would abandon it for izanagi

 

[-The Agent-]

Re: slightly important? regarding madara and tobi

do you really read manga? cause if yes than we have seen Tobi´s Left eye too :|

You must be registered for see images

^ Exactly what I was going to say.


That's like saying Deidara doesn't have a right eye because his eye is covered... lol

 

[AnimusOra]

Re: both are madara

Tobi is still madara. Zetsu implanted madara cells into a zetsu copy. Technically now there are two madaras. You see, in many chapters we have known/received evidence that Tobi was part zetsu. The fact that Zetsu can actually implant cells creating a new person/copy of another body makes this theory highly possible. The fact that kabuto could black mail Tobi so easily and the fact that madara was actually summoned makes the theory even more possible.

So by that logic that means that the other half of black zetsu if there is one could be the clone of madara. again its all speculation.

 

[Erzo]

Re: slightly important? regarding madara and tobi

lol i like that theory, but there is a picture where izuna is bleeding from both eyes, i'll find it and link you later xd
nice theory though?

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

Re: Now that we know the 6th Coffin is Madara...

Yeah the double Madara theory does sound possible. BUT Why would be be scared of himself when Kabuto showed him the coffin? The fact that after he saw the 6th coffin, and had no choice but to have Kabuto join his side.

I don't get it though. Edo Tensei is supposed to revive the soul so how is it possible that Tobi could be Madara as well.

Because Tobi claime he was a shell of his former self. He in his present state (at the time) couldn't have matched up agaisnt his past self. That may be a reason why he was scared.

Also he may have just been scared by kabutos knowledge and ability to did the body.

Edo tensi does revive the soul. But it's still possible that Tobi is a remnant of MADARAS SOUL OR WILL. Just like how MINATO SOUL WAS SEALED BUT REMNANT OF HIMWAS IN NARUTOS CONSCIOUS AND KUSHINA IS DEAD BUT PART OF HER WAS STILL IN NARUTOS CONSCIOUS.

Madara may have sealed his conscious, part of his chakra, soul, spirit or will etc in another body (Zetsu?) before he died, plan B TO IF HE LOST AGAISNT THE 1st.

Sorry about the caps. My iPod is being retarded

 

[ReLax -]

Re: Unbelievable

I've actually never been flamed for saying Tobi is not Madara. But I always made sure to consider it as just a theory until confirmed or disproved.

There are those topics, were people won't argue. I myself most the time said Tobi is Tobi till proven other wise, but there were a few people who disagreed. When Kabuto was shown and what he said about Tobi, I than thought he couldn't be Madara, but even now anything is possible.

 

[GermanViet]

Re: both are madara

Both of them are madara,tobi plan on using rinne tensei to revive the real 1,while the real 1 is summond he tought tobi has carried out the plan. Remember when tobi talk to zetsu about how naruto has put a dent on his plan by changing nagato's mind. But how does the real madara met nagato? Meaning he didn't die at vote collecting shodai cell and creating zetsu but suffers damage in the process so i think he drafted his plan and left tobi which is part of him to complete it.

in order to revive you need the soul (which is not sealed) and the DNA...
you cant revive/summon someone whose soul is in the real world/soul is sealed..

and the argumentation about soul splitting.. i dont know how it should work... and its VERY irrational

edit:
on zetsus speculation... if this is true then there are technically 1000 of mardaras.. which is not.. (why u should only create one if u can repeat and create as many op heroes as you can? -.-)
+ zetsu can transform into other ppls shape.. wouldnt it be a bit OP if you have 1000 zetsu transforming into naruto and having his full power? -.-

logic...... x)

 

[Sanctuary_Ninja]

To the haters. THEY ARE BOTH MADARA!!!!

ok the only way to say this is ture is go by facts and jutsu that we know are out there.

1) Madara DIED. ( how can they both be madara if madara is died.) WELL Muu was sealed and that didnt stop the other one. FACT.

2) Madara himself said he wanted nagato to use his revival jutsu on him. (which would make perfect sence if he knew he was dead... already)

3) By looking at Muu's jutsu we know that the split isnt as strong as the main body. (Madara himself time and time again said he was a form of his old self and wasnt as powerful because of the fight with the first. (in which he died)

4) He would be scared if Kabuto brought him back because the means kabuto has or knows where the real body is. and if Kabuto brings him back. Kabuto has control of madara's real body.


sooooo with this being typed i believe this is how it went.


Madara splits. he fights the first. draw. Madara wounds kill him. Tobi is still there. the real madara body is buried and tobi doesnt know. Tobi then goes to look for his body knowing that nagato could revive him. kabuto finds the body revives madara, now tobi cant revive himself and merge back. because of the contracting wills. (kabuto's and his)


Think about it. most logical thing ive seen on here so far. let me know what you think.

 

[Amantius]

Re: 100% sure that Tobi is madara brother

Tobi is still madara. Zetsu implanted madara cells into a zetsu copy. Technically now there are two madaras. You see, in many chapters we have known/received evidence that Tobi was part zetsu. The fact that Zetsu can actually implant cells creating a new person/copy of another body makes this theory highly possible. The fact that kabuto could black mail Tobi so easily and the fact that madara was actually summoned makes the theory even more possible.

still wouldn't explain the mask(hiding the face when he say"oh i am madara) and also wouldn't explain his Knowledge of the sharingon operation.

 

[Sage of six paths X]

Re: slightly important? regarding madara and tobi

Youve definately convinced me!ur right they have the same eyes!and i think your theories correct!tobi is izuna its the only person who actually makes sense about trully bein tobi!

 

[Awesome Face]

Re: The "Who is Fake Madara Threads"

FUC*
im glad 6th coffin has died
but whose behind the mask thread will cover all of NB

 

[Urda]

Re: The "Who is Fake Madara Threads"

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[~MC117~]

Re: To the haters. THEY ARE BOTH MADARA!!!!

Yeah I think they are both madara, so madara is probably going to be the final villain.

 

[JJR]

Re: TOBI IS THE ELDEST SON of the SAGE

Really? if you read the manga you should know he has 2 sons.

Thats why. I haven't read the Whole Manga. Just the last few cuz I catch up to it on the anime.
Can u send me a link to where does it say that? there is like 550 manga chapters there.

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

Re: If Tobi isn't Madara , how did he control the fox during attack on Konoha ?

Danzo's words as I remeber were : The only people capable of controlling a biju were Hashirama , Madara & Raikage's younger brother Killer Bee " ( I don't remember if anyone else was mentioned )

According to Danzo no one other than those could control his biju

He lied. For one, there are means in which ppl other than those mentioned can control the Kyuubi. Those being Hashirama's cells and Sharingan.
For two: Danzo had the means to control the Kyuubi, he had Shisui's Sharingan and Hashirama's cells. He was just trying to hide the fact he had the cells, had those stolen Sharingan and that he cooperated with Orochimaru (who was a criminal) because he surely would've lost his spot as Hokage which would ruin his plans. ( I guess it would ruin his plans :shrug:

 

[Brucewen001]

Re: slightly important? regarding madara and tobi

:Rofl: that's madara hairstyle which covering his right eye.

 

[Hyperion]

Re: TOBI IS THE ELDEST SON of the SAGE

How original

 

[JJR]

Re: TOBI IS THE ELDEST SON of the SAGE

Hashirama Senju was his son?????
I tough the Sage was more legend than anything. PPL didn't really believe in him before Madara told his plans to the kages.

 

[Owarij]

Re: slightly important? regarding madara and tobi

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this is what i think, but hey, who knows anymore