[Theory] [Official]The Giant Tobi Discussion/Theory Thread

[Scotch]

Re: TOBI IS THE ELDEST SON of the SAGE

Where in the Manga does speak about the Sage of six path family?
I didnt know he had a brother. can u please send me a link to see?

Really? if you read the manga you should know he has 2 sons.

 

[Blaze Release]

Re: Maybe ToBi is a completely Black Zetsu?

Well, this is just a theory if mine about ToBi. Havent done theories in a while xd. Aside from me believing Izuna is ToBi, here's an altenative.

Maybe ToBi is the original, full Black Zetsu? Zetsus' are able to make complete replica of ninja they come into physical contact with, so perhaps ToBi is just a full Black Zetsu who masquerades as Madara because he is a severly imperfect copy who can pass off as Madara, because they share similar abilities ( Taming the Fox for instance ) to an extent?

As for the space time ninjutsu, maybe Black Zetsu are capable of this? White Zetsu can phase in and out of the earth at any place, at anytime, so maybe the Black Zetsu can phase through Time/Space as White Zetsu do with the Earth?
What do you guys think? I'm pretty sure I left something out because my brain is moving a little fast, but I'll adress the posible flaws once they surface.

P.S, I meant to put theory as the prefix, not discussion xd

Only white zetsu can do that. We still havent seen what black zetsu can do.
Anyway theory is too far fetched

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

Re: Maybe ToBi is a completely Black Zetsu?

Jus noticed a thread similar to this one..:|

I didnt read it, so if there are any similarities, I swear its coincidental.

 

[Draydn]

Re: Theory Madara 2

Finally someone who has comon sence.

I take it, not too many people have it on this site lol

 

[ninjastormgenaration33]

Re: Maybe ToBi is a completely Black Zetsu?

It's possible, all we can do is wait

 

[Hyperion]

Re: The man in the mask is the Senju Clan ancestor

fail !

 

[Blade95]

Re: If Tobi isn't Madara , how did he control the fox during attack on Konoha ?

That's exactly what I am using to support Tobi = Madara , although I don't know how could there be 2 souls of Madara at the same time.

Doubt it lol

 

[Volcmike]

Re: TOBI IS THE ELDEST SON of the SAGE

i go for the izuna theory. that he changed roles and "switch places in his sotry.

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

Re: Tobi is Fugaku (Sasuke and Itachis father)

Fugaku can use Zetsu to fake his death fine. But you would have to prove Zetsu was even around.

You have to give sufficient evidence of how Fugaku had knowledge that only Madara would have.

Explain why Itachi himself believ he was working with Madara.

Explain why Fugaku would have his clan and own wife killed.

Unless you can explain or rice these things than logically Tobi is not Fugaku. Logically all fingers points towards Tobi still being Madara despite him being revived. There is still more proof that Tobi is Madara than anybody else in the manga.

 

[Owarij]

slightly important? regarding madara and tobi

Look at madara's eyes

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now look at tobi's eyes

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madara's left eye is shown , and tobi had the hole in his right

what if izuna didn't give up both his eyes? and just 1 , tobi's s/t jutsu is seen revolving around his right eye, he kept the right eye and put in a rinnegan in the left,

what if madara has no eye in his right socket?

 

[-The Agent-]

Re: Now that we know the 6th Coffin is Madara...

I was expecting something like this for the 6th coffin, piecing it together there wouldn't be that many people who would have made Tobi (what we believe to be Madara at the time) shit breaks at seeing an unknown Edo Tensei, well now we definitely know why he reacted in that way.

As for Tobi, I Agree with Sunagura on his 2 Madara theory because ever since we have known about the trump card and in my arguments if it was Madara then who is Tobi? I'm guessing there is some kind of truth to what Tobi is saying.

In the Kage Summit arc he even states he is a shell of his former self, what I always took from that is the condition he is in, yeah he can still fight to some extend but compared to the real Madara who is such a baws he blows the door off his coffin rather than waiting for it, this explanation being using the cells of the Shodai he essentially cloned himself probably intending it to be his "vessel" (much like Orochimaru switching into a new body) but the plan back fired when his vessel rather than becoming a soulless body became a clone of himself. As a last chances to continue his life he basically got stuck with the clone and had to try and reformulate but couldn't and ended up dying which is where we see the clone of Madara (Tobi) continuing on the plans.

Yeah the double Madara theory does sound possible. BUT Why would be be scared of himself when Kabuto showed him the coffin? The fact that after he saw the 6th coffin, and had no choice but to have Kabuto join his side.

I don't get it though. Edo Tensei is supposed to revive the soul so how is it possible that Tobi could be Madara as well.

 

[Rorschach]

Re: Uchiha Who? :The Man behind the mask

it's obviousl izuna behind that mask just check out the picture on wikia and the picture of the hooded "madara" in the photo that's actually izuna (short hair, pointy chin

and it talks about the younger bro finding an inextinguishable light

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10/12/11 2nd new theory -osae

hi five!!!

 

[Volcmike]

Re: slightly important? regarding madara and tobi

Spoiler

Look at madara's eyes

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now look at tobi's eyes

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madara's left eye is shown , and tobi had the hole in his right

what if izuna didn't give up both his eyes? and just 1 ,

What if Izuna is tobi and when he told sasuuke the story he told sasuke that HE WAS MADARA but he was actually izuna?

 

[Migualon J.J.]

Re: slightly important? regarding madara and tobi

do you really read manga? cause if yes than we have seen Tobi´s Left eye too :|

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[Sarutobi Sasuke]

Re: Unbelievable

It was obvious that Tobi wasn't Madara...unless Kishi throws something else in.

I have said it myself as many others, but we were flamed and people said oh, the manga states it is Madara, but yet there was so many evidence proving otherwise.

Anyways, I want to know who the Tobi is, Izuna? Obito? being favs in this.

I've actually never been flamed for saying Tobi is not Madara. But I always made sure to consider it as just a theory until confirmed or disproved.

 

[Urda]

Re: slightly important? regarding madara and tobi

You could be own to something here.......LOL

IDk it's probably nothing or it could mean something more.

 

[Blaze Release]

Re: slightly important? regarding madara and tobi

Actually look at the real madara's eyes again, he has edo tensei eyes, he is clearly dead. Now look at tobi eyes he is very much alive. This will stop this tobi=madara thread. Cant believe people still think he is madara

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

Re: Maybe ToBi is a completely Black Zetsu?

Only white zetsu can do that. We still havent seen what black zetsu can do.
Anyway theory is too far fetched

I see what you mean, so I wont try to make things too imaginary. I will say we dont know if Black Zetsu cant do this, yet. Its has been stated White Zetsu can.

And how exactly is this "far-fetched"

 

[Osiris.]

The "Who is Fake Madara Threads"

Are EFFN BLOWING UP!
i thoguht they were banned anyway?
i was up for 1hr. and saw thread after thread afetr thread on it
pls stop the nonsense

 

[ninjastormgenaration33]

Re: slightly important? regarding madara and tobi

do you really read manga? cause if yes than we have seen Tobi´s Left eye too :|

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