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Chiyo, Hanzo & Hiruzen wreck...

Hell Dodai, Yagura & Kisame. They don't seem all that, especially as a team.

Hanzo, Yagura, and Kisame don't belong in a Jounin/Low-Kage tier fight. Chiyo, Old Hiruzen, (pick someone else) are getting wrecked. Keep the location into consideration.

Lee, Early Part 2 Kakashi, and Kidomaru

Lee isn't exceling in this location. Kakashi himself stated that avoiding Shino's insect swarm would be impossible. Part 1 Neji defeated Kidomaru, let alone War-Arc. I'd say my team defeats yours med-high diff.
 

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Hanzo, Yagura, and Kisame don't belong in a Jounin/Low-Kage tier fight. Chiyo, Old Hiruzen, (pick someone else) are getting wrecked. Keep the location into consideration.

Explain the location a little more because i'm pretty sure Hiruzen and Chiyo can each destroy a huge section of forest with a handful of their techs.

Hiruzen uses death reaper / One's Own Life technique, uses it again. Chiyo VS Kiba. I wonder who's winning that one with all the poisoned blades and Chikamatsu's 10 Puppets. Don't need a third member but just for aid, Zabuza's hidden mist or Cee's Lightning Pillar etc.

Cee / Hiruzen / Chiyo can defeat a LOT of teams due to their broken combo & being out of character.
 

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Point-Edo Madara.

Support-Edo Itachi, Rinnegan/MS Obito no Bijuu.

This teams eats every single team listed here.

As for Kage Level.

Point- Gai

Support-Edo KCM Minato, SM Kabuto.
 

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Hanzo, Yagura, and Kisame don't belong in a Jounin/Low-Kage tier fight. Chiyo, Old Hiruzen, (pick someone else) are getting wrecked. Keep the location into consideration.



Lee isn't exceling in this location. Kakashi himself stated that avoiding Shino's insect swarm would be impossible. Part 1 Neji defeated Kidomaru, let alone War-Arc. I'd say my team defeats yours med-high diff.

Neji doesn't get anything out of it either and Lee should beat him with the 6th Gate

Kidomaru can stay back and snipe to get kills, your team would be preoccupied with Kakashi and Lee.

Not being able to avoid his bus doesn't mean he gets KO'd by it. Even his super nerfed Kamui would be too fast for them to avoid
 

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Lee, Early Part 2 Kakashi, and Kidomaru


Maybe I should bann people with Chakrazords, but not Edo Hiruzen. Triple reaper death seal only matters if he can grab them


Mifune, SRA Gaara, Gengetsu

- Mifune canonically took on Hanzo so he should be able to here. Especially while invisible

- Gengetsu's Genjutsu hinders the other team. Nobody on your team would be able to see anyone on mine and would just be fighting a mirage of Gengetsu.

- Gaara keeps Gengetsu safe by keeping him and his Clam levetating around the battlefield.

- With the mirage up, Gaara should be able to kill Chiyo with Sand coffin since she won't see it coming nor will anyone be attacking Gaara

My understanding of Gengetsu's genjutsu wasn't correct, he alone basically secures the victory. That is Ofc if you can find a way around the Baku's arena-scaling attack, or Danzo's long-range and very large wind style techs which he can use effortlessly (see sasuke battle to grasp the scale and range he pulls off) if you want to rely on the genjutsu, they have ways to attack the entire arena. Izanagi will stop Gaara's attacks long enough to locate him.

Mifune only defeated Hanzo because he is a.)Intolerant to his poison due to Hanzo giving him the antidote and b.) Hanzo fought only with his scythe and none of his explosive style attacks etc. He was also resisting the jutsu better than even Muu and Gengetsu and trying to help Mifune win. Your team is a nice combo but with Chiyo on the field too (who saved Sakura countless times from deathly poison and more instant attacks & snipes) it has holes.
 

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Point-Edo Madara.

Support-Edo Itachi, Rinnegan/MS Obito no Bijuu.

This teams eats every single team listed here.

As for Kage Level.

Point- Gai

Support-Edo KCM Minato, SM Kabuto.

Edo Madara beats Chiyo, Neji & Dodai? Yeah no sh*t :')
 

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Edo Madara beats Chiyo, Neji & Dodai? Yeah no sh*t :')

Yes, because Chiyo, Neji and Dodai are the only teams here. Use your common sense and come to the conclusion that OP tiers are meant to be put against the OP tiers.
 

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Yes, because Chiyo, Neji and Dodai are the only teams here. Use your common sense and come to the conclusion that OP tiers are meant to be put against the OP tiers.

You clearly said that Madara defeats all the teams in this thread....what do you expect??
 

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My understanding of Gengetsu's genjutsu wasn't correct, he alone basically secures the victory. That is Ofc if you can find a way around the Baku's arena-scaling attack, or Danzo's long-range and very large wind style techs which he can use effortlessly (see sasuke battle to grasp the scale and range he pulls off) if you want to rely on the genjutsu, they have ways to attack the entire arena. Izanagi will stop Gaara's attacks long enough to locate him.

Mifune only defeated Hanzo because he is a.)Intolerant to his poison due to Hanzo giving him the antidote and b.) Hanzo fought only with his scythe and none of his explosive style attacks etc. He was also resisting the jutsu better than even Muu and Gengetsu and trying to help Mifune win. Your team is a nice combo but with Chiyo on the field too (who saved Sakura countless times from deathly poison and more instant attacks & snipes) it has holes.

Gaara could sink Baku into a pit underground or, in a pinch, use the Shukaku golem he did against younger Naruto and maul it. Since they're all in a Genjutsu they still don't see him

How will they locate him when he's flying around on sand and attacking them with Sand from underneath them?

I chose Mifune for the fore because of his resistentire to the poison, it's a good matchup. He could end Hanzo pretty easily since Hanzo and his team will be dealing with a mirage and getting grabbed and smashed by sand.

Chiyo doesn't help the MU either, she's a puppeteer. Naturally she stands in one place, easy prey for Gaara.
Yes, because Chiyo, Neji and Dodai are the only teams here. Use your common sense and come to the conclusion that OP tiers are meant to be put against the OP tiers.

I don't see it taking down my team for a lot of the strategies I used against Numbers. His PS gets overpowered by a teleporting BM Avatar that could allow Minato an opening to mark it. Either warping it away or unavoidable attacks.

Chakra won't be an issue for Minato either since Naruto's there, and he can use Clones to make PS warp set ups sage

Fukusaku and Shima can charge frog song in the avatar safetly too
 
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Explain the location a little more because i'm pretty sure Hiruzen and Chiyo can each destroy a huge section of forest with a handful of their techs.

Hiruzen uses death reaper / One's Own Life technique, uses it again. Chiyo VS Kiba. I wonder who's winning that one with all the poisoned blades and Chikamatsu's 10 Puppets. Don't need a third member but just for aid, Zabuza's hidden mist or Cee's Lightning Pillar etc.

Cee / Hiruzen / Chiyo can defeat a LOT of teams due to their broken combo & being out of character.

Alive Old Hiruzen doesn't have the chakra capacity to replicate his elemental Edo feats without exhausting himself. Destroying the forest with large AoE elemental jutsu is fine, but he wouldn't be very servicesable afterwards. I don't recall anything in Chiyos arsenal being on a forrest busting scale.

Deather Reaper seals the casters soul within the Death Reaper... Chiyos restoration technique doesn't work here. How is Kiba going to get poisoned when nothing is going to pierce Kibas skin while using Gatsuuga (and it's variants). The guy drills through solid matter without sustaining any damage onto himself; so the blades should be repelled by the rotation. Even still, if anyone gets poisoned, then Shino's insects simply remove it [ ]. Shinos insects also would absorb Chiyos chakra strings, completely nulling her use of puppets altogether.

I fail to see how Lightening Pillar or Hidden Mist are doing anything in front of the Byakugan; and chakra sensors/trackers like Kiba (smell) and Shino's insects.

Neji doesn't get anything out of it either and Lee should beat him with the 6th Gate

Kidomaru can stay back and snipe to get kills, your team would be preoccupied with Kakashi and Lee.

Not being able to avoid his bus doesn't mean he gets KO'd by it. Even his super nerfed Kamui would be too fast for them to avoid

Yes, he does... He can actually see perfectly and maneuver throughout the entire forest; while Lee can't. Shino can simply deploy chakra absorbing insects to pester Kidomaru. And Kakashi's sharingan vision is getting hampered with the insect jamming jutsu... He isn't landing Kamui at all. Especially in a forest, where the oposition would excel in.
 

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@Kagatsuchi, no You don't need contact for triple RDS, see when Minato used it on Kurama. The Reaper stretched through the air to Kurama and yes people will zords are too strong.
 

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@Kagatsuchi, no You don't need contact for triple RDS, see when Minato used it on Kurama. The Reaper stretched through the air to Kurama and yes people will zords are too strong.

Still ways around it, warping/Shunshin, depends on the specific character
 

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Gaara could sink Baku into a pit underground or, in a pinch, use the Shukaku golem he did against younger Naruto and maul it. Since they're all in a Genjutsu they still don't see him

How will they locate him when he's flying around on sand and attacking them with Sand from underneath them?

I chose Mifune for the fore because of his resistentire to the poison, it's a good matchup. He could end Hanzo pretty easily since Hanzo and his team will be dealing with a mirage and getting grabbed and smashed by sand.

Chiyo doesn't help the MU either, she's a puppeteer. Naturally she stands in one place, easy prey for Gaara.

Chiyo will immediately go Chikamatsu to keep up, which involves her moving around. Mifune even with distractions is fast but not nearly strong enough to survive Danzo or a serious Hanzo. Hanzo acknowledged him because of his will, not his skills. And Danzo with the range he had during the Sasuke fight doesn't need to be able to see. With jutsu of that scale AND Baku's attack (it starts instantly) your Mizukage is getting struck and the genjutsu will be over.

It's a very nice combo indeed and Mifune is worrying and should be used in more trios due to his blitzing scary speed but Hanzo is his best and worst matchup. And he will be rushing into the midsts of all three of them at once when anyone of them is fast & strong enough to dispatch him (only Danzo uses handsigns)
 

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Alive Old Hiruzen doesn't have the chakra capacity to replicate his elemental Edo feats without exhausting himself. Destroying the forest with large AoE elemental jutsu is fine, but he wouldn't be very servicesable afterwards. I don't recall anything in Chiyos arsenal being on a forrest busting scale.

Deather Reaper seals the casters soul within the Death Reaper... Chiyos restoration technique doesn't work here. How is Kiba going to get poisoned when nothing is going to pierce Kibas skin while using Gatsuuga (and it's variants). The guy drills through solid matter without sustaining any damage onto himself; so the blades should be repelled by the rotation. Even still, if anyone gets poisoned, then Shino's insects simply remove it [ ]. Shinos insects also would absorb Chiyos chakra strings, completely nulling her use of puppets altogether.

I fail to see how Lightening Pillar or Hidden Mist are doing anything in front of the Byakugan; and chakra sensors/trackers like Kiba (smell) and Shino's insects.



Yes, he does... He can actually see perfectly and maneuver throughout the entire forest; while Lee can't. Shino can simply deploy chakra absorbing insects to pester Kidomaru. And Kakashi's sharingan vision is getting hampered with the insect jamming jutsu... He isn't landing Kamui at all. Especially in a forest, where the oposition would excel in.

Well I also don't see any Sharingan genjutsu masters at work here and so Lightning Pillar is crippling all three (Kiba & Neji at the very least) leaving them the opening they need to do so. Swap out Hiruzen for Danzo then due to misunderstanding about the suicide techs and he is way above Shino and Neji's level even simply through sheer force. Izanagi and his jutsu level the forest the same way they did the Samurai Bridge & Danzo's ink seal suicide tech can be used in tandem with One's Own Life when Chiyo has outlived her purpose.
 

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Yes, he does... He can actually see perfectly and maneuver throughout the entire forest; while Lee can't. Shino can simply deploy chakra absorbing insects to pester Kidomaru. And Kakashi's sharingan vision is getting hampered with the insect jamming jutsu... He isn't landing Kamui at all. Especially in a forest, where the oposition would excel in.

They're Ninjas, as kids they're effortlessly moved around forests. Byakugan seeing through trees isn't helping him against Lee once they engage

Kidomaru has spider summons to deal with any insects Shino sends his way. If he even knows where he is, all he could do is send off some insects and hope they find him. He can keep changing positions safetly too

Then Kakashi engages Shino, which ends in Shino dying horribly. I hope I won't have to explain how bad that gets, especially when Sharingan can tell if it's an insect clone or not. I'll remind you that the Sharingan has seen through stone strictures in a cave as well as through the ground.

Kakashi has dog summons to help with being in a forest as well.
Chiyo will immediately go Chikamatsu to keep up, which involves her moving around. Mifune even with distractions is fast but not nearly strong enough to survive Danzo or a serious Hanzo. Hanzo acknowledged him because of his will, not his skills. And Danzo with the range he had during the Sasuke fight doesn't need to be able to see. With jutsu of that scale AND Baku's attack (it starts instantly) your Mizukage is getting struck and the genjutsu will be over.

It's a very nice combo indeed and Mifune is worrying and should be used in more trios due to his blitzing scary speed but Hanzo is his best and worst matchup. And he will be rushing into the midsts of all three of them at once when anyone of them is fast & strong enough to dispatch him (only Danzo uses handsigns)

The main point is how they work as a team though, the whole point is they can't counter them under the Genjutsu

Chikamatsu won't matter if she's fighting a mirage. She'll just get sand coffin'd or Sliced in half while she never sees it coming
 
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Edo Madara at the front with Alive Nagato and Tobirama behind shit on everything here
 

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Point: Kimimaro
Supports: Kidomaru & Tayuya

Oh lord this would be a savage squad. Will elaborate in a bit.
 

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Edo Madara at the front with Alive Nagato and Tobirama behind shit on everything here

How do these 3 work as a team unit well? Throwing the strongest characters you're allowed isn't the point of this thread.

Anyway, since my team may have been beaten...

LEAD: Mecha-Naruto
SUPPORTS: Yagura & Killer Bee
 

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Point: Kimimaro
Supports: Kidomaru & Tayuya

Oh lord this would be a savage squad. Will elaborate in a bit.

I predicted something like Shukaku, Gaara, Minato from you lol. Wreck level sand attack and Minato can mark the sand. Letying Gaara set up teleport or Minato can warp a BD anywhere Gaara sends his sand

Also, If Shukaku and Gaara use sand Minato has marked as part of their combo they used against Madara then it's pretty much GG. Your immobilized and Minato can warp to you.
 

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I predicted something like Shukaku, Gaara, Minato from you lol. Wreck level sand attack and Minato can mark the sand. Letying Gaara set up teleport or Minato can warp a BD anywhere Gaara sends his sand

Also, If Shukaku and Gaara use sand Minato has marked as part of their combo they used against Madara then it's pretty much GG. Your immobilized and Minato can warp to you.

Eh nah, I don't like Minato at all. You can use Bijuu for the teams? Didn't know that.

If I made a team for Gaara it'd go:

Lead: Gaara
Supports: Kidomaru + Shino

Gaara levitates them both on Sand. Kidomaru snipe kills are inevitable. Shino oh lord.. Shino.. Three ranged fights sending constant fire power your way, and they're all seemingly undodgeable.

This team would neg Kages easy.
 
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