Official Team Building VS Thread

[Kagustuchi]

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Here's a weird idea I came up with today during a game of Marvel vs Capcom. The premise is that, under certain restrictions, I will create a 3 man cell. Posters then have to create their team of 3 that they believe can beat it.

I'll edit the OP from time to time to include teams that people post if they wish. Then you can take up discussions versus other people's teams.

This of course would cause the posts in this thread to become hard to follow and have to many discussions going on in the same thread at once. Though that brings us to the main purpose of this thread, if a certain topic comes matchup comes up that people feel like discussing, you can make a thread that everyone can input on. Giving us a unique matchup that nobody has probably discussed before, given the sheer amount of combinations and tactics possible.
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So that brings us to the rules

- Kaguya, Hagoromo and JJ's, Indra/Ashura, Hamura, Momoshiki/Kinshiki, Rikudo Naruto variants, Rikudo Sasuke, DMS Kakashi/Obito, Toneri, and Alive 1R/2R SM Madara are banned (God Tiers basically) as well as EMS Madara w/ or w/o Kyuubi, Hashirama, and BSM Naruto are banned (Top Tiers). As an extension, EMS Sasuke/Naruto/"Edo" Minato, "Edo" Madara, and Killer Bee may not be on the same teams.

- Edo Tensei is banned, if you want a character with Edo feats put "Edo". As you may pick a character with Edo Tensei feats, but they become alive versions of thems elves while retaining the exact same stats. So the Edo Tensei nerf applies to any it affected I'd you wish for Edo feats.

- All fights start a 3 meters distance in a neutral location. Both teams stand 30 Meters apart in triangle formations. One character stands in front of the other two on your team, he is your "point" character. Avatars are not out, both parties start with everyone in base.

I suggest putting your Frontline fighter at the fore, the one you expect to enage them first. With any support, or characters that need time for their set ups.

Teams

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[OP restrictions]

Team DA:
Point: War Arc Naruto
Supports: Alive Minato and DSM Kabuto

Team KG
Point: Edo Madara
Supports: Edo Itachi & Rinnegan/MS Obito no Bijuu

Team Numbers
Point: War Arc Sasuke
Supports: Pain & Hiruzen

Team Luckyman
Point: Edo Minato
Supports: Dan & Edo Hiruzen

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[Kage Tier]

Team you gonna eat your corn bread? (Beans)
Point: Third Raikage
Supports: Muu & Sakura

Team Numbers 2:
Point: Hanzo the Salamander
Supports: Chiyo & Danzo

Team Zex:
Point: Kakuzu
Supports: Kisame & Deidara

Team Lava:
Point: Mei
Support: Dodai & Kurtosuchi

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[Low-Kage/Jonin]

Team Forbidden
Point: Neji
Support: Shino & Kiba

Team Proof:
Point: Kimmimaro
Support: Kidomaru & Tayuya

 

[LuckyMan]

How the hell is BSM Naruto banned but not Edo Madara, EMS Sasuke, and Edo Minato?

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

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Point: War Arc Naruto (Up to vs Resseructed Madara BM feats)

Supports: Alive Minato and DSM Kabuto​

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Amazing idea for a thread. MVC3 is a great game.

Anyway, I go with War Arc Sasuke (naturally because they're equals to negate the main powerhouse up front) with Pain & Hiruzen as support.

The two support ninja have huge has access to many support jutsu as they're varied ninja with huge movesets for all occasions. Hiruzen will throw everything he has scale-wise to keep Kabuto and Naruto preoccupied (Minato is too fast). The Pain's with their shared vision and Sasuke with his reaction time, Susanoo & insane speed will be enough to intercept Minato. Ultimately Pain can shinra tensei everybody to one spot which is very useful in a multi-man brawl.

Hiruzen is obviously the weakest combatant here but once Minato is eliminated he will use Reaper Death Seal to eliminate Naruto or Kabuto from the equation. The Pain paths aren't going to take Naruto or Kabuto out but have the range and sheer number of jutsu all at once to be an amazing distraction. Unkillable animal summons, Soul-stealing, missiles & 6 individual bodies- i'm bringing numbers to the match. And through all the carnage and 3-at once jutsu spamming (MVC3 style), Sasuke will have the freedom to get the edge on Naruto.

 

[Beans2]

Point: Third Raikage

Support: Muu, Sakura

This team is badass

-Lightened Raikage combo
-Super Jinton
-Sakura's punch + Muu making the punch heavy=total destruction.
-Muu can split bodies and one goes invisible and snipes, then the other gets in a backpack combo with Byakogou Sakura, while lightened Raikage runs around blitzing with Nukite. Thats three lines of offense right there.
-Then there's also Katsuyu slugs which can distribute chakra, remotely heal, and break genjutsu via partner method.
-Nukite, Jinton, and weighted Sakura's punch are all very powerful attacks.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Point: Third Raikage

Support: Muu, Sakura

This team is badass

-Lightened Raikage combo
-Super Jinton
-Sakura's punch + Muu making the punch heavy=total destruction.
-Muu can split bodies and one goes invisible and snipes, then the other gets in a backpack combo with Byakogou Sakura, while lightened Raikage runs around blitzing with Nukite. Thats three lines of offense right there.
-Then there's also Katsuyu slugs which can distribute chakra, remotely heal, and break genjutsu via partner method.
-Nukite, Jinton, and weighted Sakura's punch are all very powerful attacks.

An epic triad, it's a shame he made the first matchup so unbelievably OP. These 3 would go far but not sure if they'd out the alternatively unique powerhouses of Kabuto, Naruto & the speedster.

 

[Kagustuchi]

An epic triad, it's a shame he made the first matchup so unbelievably OP. These 3 would go far but not sure if they'd out the alternatively unique powerhouses of Kabuto, Naruto & the speedster.

Feel free to make diffrent teams from diffrent tiers of characters. I'll put beans in a Kage tier team section

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Feel free to make diffrent teams from diffrent tiers of characters. I'll put beans in a Kage tier team section

I'd like to suggest a 3 man squad.

Using only Kage level and lower ninja, I want you to defeat:

POINT: Hanzo the Salamander
SUPPORTS: Chiyo & Danzo Shimura

(psst your 3 man triad was just fine just I was surprised you were going so off the wall so early on & that he restricted himself so much was all haha, how did my response team fare?

 

[Kagustuchi]

I'd like to suggest a 3 man squad.

Using only Kage level and lower ninja, I want you to defeat:

POINT: Hanzo the Salamander
SUPPORTS: Chiyo & Danzo Shimura

(psst your 3 man triad was just fine just I was surprised you were going so off the wall so early on & that he restricted himself so much was all haha, how did my response team fare?

There are some broken Kage teams. I remeber back in the in the early war arc days, Muu and Gengetsu were considered a nigh undefeatable duo. Jinton inside of Clam Genjutsu = OP

They would have fared well but mostly because of Sasuke. I think my team would wreck in in all honesty, Naruto can buff Minato and Kabuto with Kurama's chakra, and keep them inside the avatar.

Going by scaling, a standard BD blows an arm and part of the torso/face of Sasuke's PS. I could argue for more damage since Sasuke can't match it here (no PS Chidori). Multi Bijudama would bust Sasuke's PS, even if you want to argue they're weaker than standard BD, there's Flash which completely annihaltes him.

Naruto would have a massive upper hand in normal hand to hand combat here between chakrazords too. With Minato inside his avatar, he can have Minato use FTG to teleport his Avatar to markings all around field, which Minato can mark at his leisure from the safety of Naruto's avatar. Possibly even marking Sasuke's PS mid match for some unavoidable BDS

Pain doesn't really help Sasuke all that much, Naruto's and Minato summons handle Animal Path like Naruto did in cannon against Pain. All of them are blitz material to KCM /BM clones and a KCC Cloak buffed Minato outside. Deva is the only one that can affect the matchup anyway, and it's by CT or CST, both of which put hurt his team. Though both avatars tank CST, and Naruto can easily counter CT in BM.

Hiruzen isn't much help either, he can only shoot elements from the avatar and he can't hang outside of it. Naruto and Minato can blitz him, and Naruto can overpower his Jutsu even without the avatar. Minato can redirect them as well. They don't even scratch the avatar as it is, and BM Naruto's Tails deflects Obito's Bakufu Ranbu without even forming the avatar

And I havnt even mentioned how Kabuto affects the fight, putting them in genjutsu from the safety of the avatar or using White Rage to stun anyone not in Sasuke avatar (which he can evade with)

I'll reply to the other team in a bit. I'd like to hear some point for some team tech they would have though, plus some points for Hanzo himself

 

[LuckyMan]

Okay I'll play along.

Point - Edo Minato

Support - Edo Hiruzen, Dan Katō

There is no counter to this team.

Strategy: Minato goes into avatar state. He sends a base clone out to spread markings. He marks Hiruzen and Dan. Minato is at point, so his large avatar will conceal Hiruzen and Dan behind him. They both hop inside the avatar. Dan activates Ghost Transformation. His body is safe floating in Kurama Avatar while his spirit kills the entire enemy team. He can either possess them to do what he wants but he'll just use the move normally, and they'll rot from the inside out instantly. They won't see him because he'll be concealed behind avatar and he's invisible when he's about to enter your body (See Madara vs Gokage).

I won't even detail the Hiruzen Shadow Clone Reaper Death Seal Combo where he can seal all 3 enemies, its overkill.

-FTG Barrier counters all threats: Jinton, TBB, etc.
-Kurama Cloak Hiruzen completely wrecks anyone with his gargantuan elemental blasts if they don't have a top tier defense: Avatar, Susanoo, etc.
-Minatos Super TBB completely wrecks anyone period.
-Dan kills whole enemy team as explained if he needs to.
-2 Sensors to feel and detect attacks, one can physically sense, which neutralize things like Muus invisibility then we have Kurama evil sensing, so no surprises at all.
-They can teleport.

So yeah, this team is unbeatable.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Okay I'll play along.

Meant to reply to you, I view BSM Naruto as stronger than all them. Then there's already BM Naruto, who's about on par with them. Him and Edo Minato are basically pallet swaps with slightly diffrent movesets

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

There are some broken Kage teams. I remeber back in the in the early war arc days, Muu and Gengetsu were considered a nigh undefeatable duo. Jinton inside of Clam Genjutsu = OP

They would have fared well but mostly because of Sasuke. I think my team would wreck in in all honesty, Naruto can buff Minato and Kabuto with Kurama's chakra, and keep them inside the avatar.

Going by scaling, a standard BD blows an arm and part of the torso/face of Sasuke's PS. I could argue for more damage since Sasuke can't match it here (no PS Chidori). Multi Bijudama would bust Sasuke's PS, even if you want to argue they're weaker than standard BD, there's Flash which completely annihaltes him.

Naruto would have a massive upper hand in normal hand to hand combat here between chakrazords too. With Minato inside his avatar, he can have Minato use FTG to teleport his Avatar to markings all around field, which Minato can mark at his leisure from the safety of Naruto's avatar. Possibly even marking Sasuke's PS mid match for some unavoidable BDS

Pain doesn't really help Sasuke all that much, Naruto's and Minato summons handle Animal Path like Naruto did in cannon against Pain. All of them are blitz material to KCM /BM clones and a KCC Cloak buffed Minato outside. Deva is the only one that can affect the matchup anyway, and it's by CT or CST, both of which put hurt his team. Though both avatars tank CST, and Naruto can easily counter CT in BM.

Hiruzen isn't much help either, he can only shoot elements from the avatar and he can't hang outside of it. Naruto and Minato can blitz him, and Naruto can overpower his Jutsu even without the avatar. Minato can redirect them as well. They don't even scratch the avatar as it is, and BM Naruto's Tails deflects Obito's Bakufu Ranbu without even forming the avatar

And I havnt even mentioned how Kabuto affects the fight, putting them in genjutsu from the safety of the avatar or using White Rage to stun anyone not in Sasuke avatar (which he can evade with)

I'll reply to the other team in a bit. I'd like to hear some point for some team tech they would have though, plus some points for Hanzo himself

Well, you'll have to be careful with the level of ninja you pick. I think you could estimate the level of ninja we're talking here (Mifune, Hanzo, Danzo, Hiruzen, Tsunade, Chiyo) The ruling of 'Kage' wasn't specific enough but you know what I mean- the lower Kage level nin or ninja to that effect, keep it fair but creative

Hanzo's poison mist is instantly capable of crippling a person. People in the same room as him even WITH his defibrillator mask will die. W/Ibuse, Hanzo becomes capable of turning the entire battlefield into this poison. Ibuse can projectile shoot it at high speeds across the battlefield and right into you. The mist lingers and has to be dealt with IMMEDIATELY.

Even if you can come up with counters, Hanzo in his old age state resisting edo tensei (one of the few to be able to do it may I add) was able to overpower the master Samurai swordsman Mifune in Kenjutsu with just a sickle scythe. The mist lingers and needs more than a simple wind jutsu to rid the field of it. Hanzo was perhaps the strongest participant in the 2nd Great Ninja War & led a small inferior village against the 5 great nations. He defeated the Sannin & had the chance to kill Nagato before he berserked. Chiyo sparred with him often, being an expert in poisons.

Then you have Danzo with his own summon, Chiyo with Chikamatsu's Army of 10. All of her surprising expansive moveset and when she's fulfilled her use as a medic- she can use one's own life to resusitate a fallen member of her team. Especially useful in late game match when opponents are on their last legs. Chiyo is the most likely of the team to make it to the end due to her durability and defensive/medical/supportive role on the team. Sacrificing herself she can revive the manpower needed to finish the match or even better. Use it in sync with Danzo's suicidal ink seal tech for disastrous affects. OP. And then you have Izanagi & Shisui's eye. Scary combo.

 

[Beans2]

Okay I'll play along.

Point - Edo Minato

Support - Edo Hiruzen, Dan Katō

There is no counter to this team.

Strategy: Minato goes into avatar state. He sends a base clone out to spread markings. He marks Hiruzen and Dan. Minato is at point, so his large avatar will conceal Hiruzen and Dan behind him. They both hop inside the avatar. Dan activates Ghost Transformation. His body is safe floating in Kurama Avatar while his spirit kills the entire enemy team. He can either possess them to do what he wants but he'll just use the move normally, and they'll rot from the inside out instantly. They won't see him because he'll be concealed behind avatar and he's invisible when he's about to enter your body (See Madara vs Gokage).

I won't even detail the Hiruzen Shadow Clone Reaper Death Seal Combo where he can seal all 3 enemies, its overkill.

-FTG Barrier counters all threats: Jinton, TBB, etc.
-Kurama Cloak Hiruzen completely wrecks anyone with his gargantuan elemental blasts if they don't have a top tier defense: Avatar, Susanoo, etc.
-Minatos Super TBB completely wrecks anyone period.
-Dan kills whole enemy team as explained if he needs to.
-2 Sensors to feel and detect attacks, one can physically sense, which neutralize things like Muus invisibility then we have Kurama evil sensing, so no surprises at all.
-They can teleport.

So yeah, this team is unbeatable.

Rinnegan Sasuke shits on this team.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Well, you'll have to be careful with the level of ninja you pick. I think you could estimate the level of ninja we're talking here (Mifune, Hanzo, Danzo, Hiruzen, Tsunade, Chiyo) The ruling of 'Kage' wasn't specific enough but you know what I mean- the lower Kage level nin or ninja to that effect, keep it fair but creative

Hanzo's poison mist is instantly capable of crippling a person. People in the same room as him even WITH his defibrillator mask will die. W/Ibuse, Hanzo becomes capable of turning the entire battlefield into this poison. Ibuse can projectile shoot it at high speeds across the battlefield and right into you. The mist lingers and has to be dealt with IMMEDIATELY.

Even if you can come up with counters, Hanzo in his old age state resisting edo tensei (one of the few to be able to do it may I add) was able to overpower the master Samurai swordsman Mifune in Kenjutsu with just a sickle scythe. The mist lingers and needs more than a simple wind jutsu to rid the field of it. Hanzo was perhaps the strongest participant in the 2nd Great Ninja War & led a small inferior village against the 5 great nations. He defeated the Sannin & had the chance to kill Nagato before he berserked. Chiyo sparred with him often, being an expert in poisons.

Then you have Danzo with his own summon, Chiyo with Chikamatsu's Army of 10. All of her surprising expansive moveset and when she's fulfilled her use as a medic- she can use one's own life to resusitate a fallen member of her team. Especially useful in late game match when opponents are on their last legs. Chiyo is the most likely of the team to make it to the end due to her durability and defensive/medical/supportive role on the team. Sacrificing herself she can revive the manpower needed to finish the match or even better. Use it in sync with Danzo's suicidal ink seal tech for disastrous affects. OP. And then you have Izanagi & Shisui's eye. Scary combo.

Before I Counter, we going with specifically lower tier Kage? So no Edo Itachi, Alive Minato, or SM Naruto is about as high as you would want me to go?

 

[LuckyMan]

Rinnegan Sasuke shits on this team.

Obviously, but I'm referring to the OP stipulation. Ridoku Naruto and Sasuke are banned, so there's no counter to this team.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Obviously, but I'm referring to the OP stipulation. Ridoku Naruto and Sasuke are banned, so there's no counter to this team.

Nagato's Human Path poops on that ability.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Hmm... No one in the Jounin-Low Kage tier is messing with a team composed of Neji, Shino, and Kiba in a forrested area.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Hmm... No one in the Jounin-Low Kage tier is messing with a team composed of Neji, Shino, and Kiba in a forrested area.

Chiyo, Hanzo & Hiruzen wreck...

Hell Dodai, Yagura & Kisame. They don't seem all that, especially as a team.

 

[LuckyMan]

Nagato's Human Path poops on that ability.

Point? There might be a few counters to certain abilities but overall this team can't be beaten. You should just ban BM Minato, Edo Madara, etc because they are too strong. Minato is so fast, with a soul stealing move no one can see except the caster, then he can use it with Shadow Clones to seal all 3 enemies, so cN Hiruzen. Too good man.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Before I Counter, we going with specifically lower tier Kage? So no Edo Itachi, Alive Minato, or SM Naruto is about as high as you would want me to go?

Sounds about right. Chiyo & Danzo could both qualify as weak Kages.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Hmm... No one in the Jounin-Low Kage tier is messing with a team composed of Neji, Shino, and Kiba in a forrested area.

Lee, Early Part 2 Kakashi, and Kidomaru

Point? There might be a few counters to certain abilities but overall this team can't be beaten. You should just ban BM Minato, Edo Madara, etc because they are too strong. Minato is so fast, with a soul stealing move no one can see except the caster, then he can use it with Shadow Clones to seal all 3 enemies, so cN Hiruzen. Too good man.

Maybe I should bann people with Chakrazords, but not Edo Hiruzen. Triple reaper death seal only matters if he can grab them

Sounds about right. Chiyo & Danzo could both qualify as weak Kages.

Mifune, SRA Gaara, Gengetsu

- Mifune canonically took on Hanzo so he should be able to here. Especially while invisible

- Gengetsu's Genjutsu hinders the other team. Nobody on your team would be able to see anyone on mine and would just be fighting a mirage of Gengetsu.

- Gaara keeps Gengetsu safe by keeping him and his Clam levetating around the battlefield.

- With the mirage up, Gaara should be able to kill Chiyo with Sand coffin since she won't see it coming nor will anyone be attacking Gaara