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Basically, the Manga fact is Itachi is invincible when using both Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror. Is it hax as hell? Yes. Does it hype of Itachi fanboy's even more? Yes.
Obto vs Yata Mirror?
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Prince Charles
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In the same db scan you posted it clearly saids with skilled use, it can even warp an entire human body. Hence skilled use theres more advantages to just warping an entire body! back in the early part 2 kakashi can barely control the location and size of kamui and it was slow as hell..
with more proficiency like kishi said you clown, kakashi was capable of warping a sussano arrow which shows how his kamui got faster, and he warped a nail from deva pain inches from his face which also shows his improvement in his size control!
Do you get where you failed now?? Kakashi lacked the proficiency with kamui against deidara which made deidara able to avoid it! Now if kakashi used kamui on deidara its a rap!
I didnt get turnt up this time because your ignorant! I swear i Keep seeing more and more clowns on NB! It must be because of bogard! his the king of clowns
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The Totsuka and Yata were definitely tangible weapons before (Orochimaru was looking for them after all) Itachi most probably dematerialized them to integrate them into his Mangekyo Sharingan.
EliteKakashi
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My point really isn't that hard to understand, but somehow you keep failing to do so.
My point is none of the following:
How good he is at aiming it
How fast he is at executing it
Or how skilled he is in general.
The point is, the databook says you can't struggle against the pull of the wormhole. Seeing as you're having trouble understanding what that means, I'll explain it for you.
If Kakashi were to hold the wormhole open for 60 seconds on an opponent, that opponent should not be able to move any part of their body that is "inside" the wormhole for those 60 seconds.
Therefor, Deidara should not have been able to move his head/duck when the wormhole was activated on his head.
Why? Because again..YOU CAN NOT STRUGGLE AGAINST THE PULL OF THE DIMENSION. Or so the databook claims.
Forget how long it takes Kakashi to pull off the warping itself. So long as that dimension is opened on top of a body part(or if he makes the dimension big enough, opened on top of an entire body), it should not be capable of moving.
Kakashi didn't miss Deidara's head the second time. Deidara ducked out of the dimension. Shouldn't be possible.
That is the only thing I'm saying. You're going on about 100 different things that isn't what I'm talking about.
You're trying to give me Kakashi feats as if I don't know all of them like the back of my hand. I'm 100% aware of every single one of his capabilities, how each and every technique he's used works, etc. I've studied him since I got in to the manga back in 2006. I clearly have no need for a "lesson" in regards to Kakashi. All I'm pointing out is the databook made an incorrect/hyperbolic statement. Whichever you want to classify it as, because you can struggle against the pull of the dimension.
Prince Charles
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Sigh.. im done here. i wont even bother reading your post. I have already backed up my claims, its not my fault you choose to be a clown.
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EliteKakashi
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You were correct in pretty much everything you've said to this point. I've done pretty much nothing but agree with you.
The only problem is, you're not debating what I'm saying, lol. You're debating completely different things.
I suggested no such thing, I merely stated that yata can defend against juubito's attacks. Itachi still gets fodderized by juubito & you should know well enough that I wouldnt suggest otherwiseI didn't say you literally say it but you merely suggested it. :nuts: I can't believe you neg repped me over something like this
You are nothing but a troll. :devil:
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OK, KISHI JUST bring The for ****ing sake Itachi by Edo Tensei through Orochimaru or Gives these overhaxed weapons to Sasuke to fight Juubi Jinchurki Obito, and PROVE TO US ONCE AND FOR ALL IF YATA AND TOTSUKA LIVE TO THEIR HYPE OR NO, AFTER IT WILL BE NEVER QUESTIONABLE, PERIOD.
Personally, I believe these spirit weapons are truelly invincible and can't be destroyed at leaast not pernamently, BUT SEALING ATTRIBUTES OF TOTSUKA BLADE CAN BE COUNTERED BY MASTERY OVER SEALING TECHNIQUES AND COUNTERING SEALING ATTRIBUTES GIVE TO TOTSUKA BLADE, but only IF VICITIM's mastery over sealing arts > CREATOR of sealing attributes given to Totsuka.
However Yata Mirror is even harder example to prove being overhyped etc..., but I think that may be simply overpowering massively maximum potential of creator of Yata could cause attack to bypass Yata and hit wielder.
BUT ANYWAY THESE WEAPONS CAN'T BE DESTROYED, but could be simply rendered useless against overhelming power. In other words they could still be kept by wielder by attack could bypass them and hit wielder, so if Kiliing him then weapons dissapear with him as well... as in case of Itachi
What do you think guys ?
Would you like for Yata and Totsuka to once and finally PROVE OR DISPROVE Databook statements facing such power as bijuudama, Black matter's Obito uses etc ? Finally being not only just hype but having feats to back up these hypes/statements.
I would like to, Kishi bring these weapons please !
Personally, I believe these spirit weapons are truelly invincible and can't be destroyed at leaast not pernamently, BUT SEALING ATTRIBUTES OF TOTSUKA BLADE CAN BE COUNTERED BY MASTERY OVER SEALING TECHNIQUES AND COUNTERING SEALING ATTRIBUTES GIVE TO TOTSUKA BLADE, but only IF VICITIM's mastery over sealing arts > CREATOR of sealing attributes given to Totsuka.
However Yata Mirror is even harder example to prove being overhyped etc..., but I think that may be simply overpowering massively maximum potential of creator of Yata could cause attack to bypass Yata and hit wielder.
BUT ANYWAY THESE WEAPONS CAN'T BE DESTROYED, but could be simply rendered useless against overhelming power. In other words they could still be kept by wielder by attack could bypass them and hit wielder, so if Kiliing him then weapons dissapear with him as well... as in case of Itachi
What do you think guys ?
Would you like for Yata and Totsuka to once and finally PROVE OR DISPROVE Databook statements facing such power as bijuudama, Black matter's Obito uses etc ? Finally being not only just hype but having feats to back up these hypes/statements.
I would like to
, Kishi bring these weapons please !
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No. He can't. He may be able to get around it by other means, well not "may" - he would. But, he can't destroy it by brute force and destructive attacks, they would just reflected back at him.
Nothing has contracted Kishimoto (You know the author of the manga) on the Spiritual items yet.
I think people seem to forget that the Yata Mirror was legendary, it was a spiritual item. It was a godlyand out of there world that somehow Itachi had. You can have all the destructive power in the world but up against a legendary item with very OP and hax properties - it's useless.
Nothing has contracted Kishimoto (You know the author of the manga) on the Spiritual items yet.
I think people seem to forget that the Yata Mirror was legendary, it was a spiritual item. It was a godlyand out of there world that somehow Itachi had. You can have all the destructive power in the world but up against a legendary item with very OP and hax properties - it's useless.