Obto vs Yata Mirror?

[Wolfus]

So that databook scan explaining the mechanics of the Yata Mirror is hyperbole too?

OT: Probably no, but he has other ways of dealing with the Yata Mirror.

The databook has made mistakes before.

 

[Wolfus]

Yata mirror prepares the final blow.

1st mirror
2nd Totsuka GG

Teuchi ramen
GG NV

 

[EliteKakashi]

Kamui can be cancelled by kamui, yata's hype states that it can change every one of its properties in order to defend against any attack. Yata will cancel kamui by changing its properties into something that can cancel kamui.

It's the same technique. Doesn't actually count.

Either way, it's not "indefensible". Nor is the Yata Mirror capable of stopping every technique. It's pure hyperbole.

So that databook scan explaining the mechanics of the Yata Mirror is hyperbole too?

OT: Probably no, but he has other ways of dealing with the Yata Mirror.

The databook says Kakashi's kamui can not be defended. Yes. It's hyperbole.

 

[Draphsin]

The databook has made mistakes before.

Only because its outdated & new manga developments contradict some statements.

There is nothing contradicting yata's hype & there is no reason for kishi to recant such a statement because he has no reason to (Itachi is dead).

That databook statement is the only reliable source of info that we have on yata mirror, so why are you questioning it?

 

[Prince Charles]

It's the same technique. Doesn't actually count.

Either way, it's not "indefensible". Nor is the Yata Mirror capable of stopping every technique. It's pure hyperbole.



The databook says Kakashi's kamui can not be defended. Yes. It's hyperbole.

Until I see something contradicting the yata mirrors detailed translation I'm not buying it. So far it has lived up to it's hype.

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

Only because its outdated & new manga developments contradict some statements.

There is nothing contradicting yata's hype & there is no reason for kishi to recant such a statement because he has no reason to (Itachi is dead).

That databook statement is the only reliable source of info that we have on yata mirror, so why are you questioning it?

They are either fanboys or haters or trolls and no that's not a hyperbole

 

[ReverseZero12]

The statement was clearly an exaggeration. Kishimoto makes quite of bit of hyperbole's in some of his writing. He even said that itachi's susanoo is invincible with totsuka sword and yata mirror and obviously that is an exaggeration.
Also, as far as feats go, it hasn't shown that it could block an attack that, for example, like naruto's TBB. So by that statement alone, you can't say it could block a TBB as an example

 

[FemmeFatale]

He should be able to theoretically, if he posses all of the powers in the world (Creation of all thing), then he would be able to rewrite the physics or the jutsu and work his way around it) if he would channel so much power into the mirror that it causes Itachi mental pain and he dies causing his jutsu to shatter.

 

[Stark]

Nope, Yata Mirror has spiritual properties, Yata tanks Juubi TBB.

 

[ItachiStillSolos]

It's the same technique. Doesn't actually count.

Either way, it's not "indefensible". Nor is the Yata Mirror capable of stopping every technique. It's pure hyperbole.



The databook says Kakashi's kamui can not be defended. Yes. It's hyperbole.

Databook never explained its mechanics and why it can't be defended. Yata Mirror's mechanics were explained, without any exaggerations and etc. Correct me if I'm wrong but has Kamui ever been defended from?

 

[Wolfus]

Only because its outdated & new manga developments contradict some statements.

There is nothing contradicting yata's hype & there is no reason for kishi to recant such a statement because he has no reason to (Itachi is dead).

That databook statement is the only reliable source of info that we have on yata mirror, so why are you questioning it?

I'm questioning it because something that has made hyperboles and mistakes before is likely to do it again, at least there is a chance of doing it again. It could be, or it couldn't. We can't be sure, like I said.

 

[EliteKakashi]

Until I see something contradicting the yata mirrors detailed translation I'm not buying it. So far it has lived up to it's hype.

Itachi himself stated everything has a weakness, didn't he?

 

[ItachiStillSolos]

Itachi himself stated everything has a weakness, didn't he?

Every Jutsu has a weakness. Yata Mirror isn't a jutsu, its a spiritual weapon. And it has a weakness, Yata Mirror just changes its attributes to repel an incoming attack, two attacks fired at the same time with different elements should bypass the mirror, and the Mirror also doesn't protect from underground attacks.

 

[Prince Charles]

Itachi himself stated everything has a weakness, didn't he?

He said everything technique/jutsu has a weakness. As far as I'm aware of the yata is a spiritual weapon not a jutsu or technique. Nice try though.

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

Of course he can. Saying he can't is like saying Itachi can beat Jubito which is fanboyism.Yata mirror was one of the sacred tools of the sage and this is manga fact. Jubito is on the same level as the sage as Madara stated. Unless you're trying to say the tool is more superior to it's creator, you are a moron. :yeah:

 

[Draphsin]

It's the same technique. Doesn't actually count.

Either way, it's not "indefensible". Nor is the Yata Mirror capable of stopping every technique. It's pure hyperbole.

@Bold: Exactly my point. Since they are the same jutsu then that means kamui still cant be defended against, thus proving that it is not hyperbole.

Yata can change any one of its properties in order to defend against an attack, yata can change its properties into kamui in order to defend against kamui if need be.

 

[itachi4real]

Itachi himself stated everything has a weakness, didn't he?

Nah he stated that every jutsu has a weakness

 

[itachi4real]

Of course he can. Saying he can't is like saying Itachi can beat Jubito which is fanboyism.Yata mirror was one of the sacred tools of the sage and this is manga fact. Jubito is on the same level as the sage as Madara stated. Unless you're trying to say the tool is more superior to it's creator, you are a moron. :yeah:

Nah madara said hes like the sage

 

[EliteKakashi]

Databook never explained its mechanics and why it can't be defended. Yata Mirror's mechanics were explained, without any exaggerations and etc. Correct me if I'm wrong but has Kamui ever been defended from?

I guess it depends on your definition of "defended". Deidara was able to move his body out of the "wormhole" and restrict it to only his arm being hit, where as the databook stated that nothing can resist being pulled in. It was defended in the sense that it didn't hit what Kakashi was aiming at, and Deidara was able to move out of the way. It was originally aimed at Deidara's chest/heart. It ended up taking his arm. If Deidara were faster, it wouldn't have hurt him period.

That was an "imperfect" version of kamui as Kakashi has improved it..but that databook was released shortly after the fight with Deidara, and prior to any other kamui feat.

 

[Draphsin]

Of course he can. Saying he can't is like saying Itachi can beat Jubito which is fanboyism.Yata mirror was one of the sacred tools of the sage and this is manga fact. Jubito is on the same level as the sage as Madara stated. Unless you're trying to say the tool is more superior to it's creator, you are a moron. :yeah:

What are you going on about? I'm an obito fan & I'm saying that he can't break it :|. Just because yata can defend against an attack from obito doesnt mean that Itachi can beat him. That is called being close minded .