Obto vs Yata Mirror?
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EliteKakashi
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It's the same technique. Doesn't actually count.
Either way, it's not "indefensible". Nor is the Yata Mirror capable of stopping every technique. It's pure hyperbole.
The databook says Kakashi's kamui can not be defended. Yes. It's hyperbole.
Only because its outdated & new manga developments contradict some statements.
There is nothing contradicting yata's hype & there is no reason for kishi to recant such a statement because he has no reason to (Itachi is dead).
That databook statement is the only reliable source of info that we have on yata mirror, so why are you questioning it?
Prince Charles
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Until I see something contradicting the yata mirrors detailed translation I'm not buying it. So far it has lived up to it's hype.
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They are either fanboys or haters or trolls and no that's not a hyperbole
ReverseZero12
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The statement was clearly an exaggeration. Kishimoto makes quite of bit of hyperbole's in some of his writing. He even said that itachi's susanoo is invincible with totsuka sword and yata mirror and obviously that is an exaggeration.
Also, as far as feats go, it hasn't shown that it could block an attack that, for example, like naruto's TBB. So by that statement alone, you can't say it could block a TBB as an example
Also, as far as feats go, it hasn't shown that it could block an attack that, for example, like naruto's TBB. So by that statement alone, you can't say it could block a TBB as an example
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FemmeFatale
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He should be able to theoretically, if he posses all of the powers in the world (Creation of all thing), then he would be able to rewrite the physics or the jutsu and work his way around it) if he would channel so much power into the mirror that it causes Itachi mental pain and he dies causing his jutsu to shatter.
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Databook never explained its mechanics and why it can't be defended. Yata Mirror's mechanics were explained, without any exaggerations and etc. Correct me if I'm wrong but has Kamui ever been defended from?
I'm questioning it because something that has made hyperboles and mistakes before is likely to do it again, at least there is a chance of doing it again. It could be, or it couldn't. We can't be sure, like I said.
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Every Jutsu has a weakness. Yata Mirror isn't a jutsu, its a spiritual weapon. And it has a weakness, Yata Mirror just changes its attributes to repel an incoming attack, two attacks fired at the same time with different elements should bypass the mirror, and the Mirror also doesn't protect from underground attacks.
Prince Charles
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He said everything technique/jutsu has a weakness. As far as I'm aware of the yata is a spiritual weapon not a jutsu or technique. Nice try though.
Shunsin no Shisui
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Of course he can. Saying he can't is like saying Itachi can beat Jubito which is fanboyism.Yata mirror was one of the sacred tools of the sage and this is manga fact. Jubito is on the same level as the sage as Madara stated. Unless you're trying to say the tool is more superior to it's creator, you are a moron. :yeah:
@Bold: Exactly my point. Since they are the same jutsu then that means kamui still cant be defended against, thus proving that it is not hyperbole.
Yata can change any one of its properties in order to defend against an attack, yata can change its properties into kamui in order to defend against kamui if need be.
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EliteKakashi
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I guess it depends on your definition of "defended". Deidara was able to move his body out of the "wormhole" and restrict it to only his arm being hit, where as the databook stated that nothing can resist being pulled in. It was defended in the sense that it didn't hit what Kakashi was aiming at, and Deidara was able to move out of the way. It was originally aimed at Deidara's chest/heart. It ended up taking his arm. If Deidara were faster, it wouldn't have hurt him period.
That was an "imperfect" version of kamui as Kakashi has improved it..but that databook was released shortly after the fight with Deidara, and prior to any other kamui feat.
What are you going on about? I'm an obito fan & I'm saying that he can't break it :|. Just because yata can defend against an attack from obito doesnt mean that Itachi can beat him. That is called being close minded
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