Obito's Kamui is useless against Minato

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1- Lol, so Obito will be taking the kunais and Minato will just be there watching? The time he takes just one kunai, Hiraishin blitz would already happen
2- What about the markings he put everywhere on the floor, on stones, at home, etc? Will he also take piece of those walls, stones, floors, home, etc to teleport to the sun?
3- Why will Minato want to teleport to the sun to begin with?
4- When Obito takes his kunais to the sun, does he suddenly become immune to high temparatures? He will get desintegrated just by staying there less than 1second

FANBOY, Obito >> NV
 

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I knew you would say that. Tell me how obito found out where minato was exactly, after he teleported away from konoha?

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He was also able to track konan too...I wont provide proof because i think ive made my point



Yeah thats how it works. Obito warped sasuke and karin to his dimension before he met up with danzo. Also, we have no idea how time is affected in that dimension, maybe its different so movement is near instant? It doesnt matter point is he teleports people to his dimension, thats how he traps his victims.
In case of Minato may be some sort of seal was placed in minato's wrist when he cought him.

but if u r talking about konan case then most appropriate answer would be Obito knew where konan was. May be it was konan's favourite hide out.

If obito was that much of a good tracker then why would he require konoan's help to locate Nagato. He could have tracked and found out the coffin of nagato himself and take away those rinnegan. Instead of taking risk with konan , tracking nagato himself would had been a great idea. I think Obito can only teleport to places where he knows that location of , or where he had once traveled to.
 

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Tobi is my favourite character, but stating that whoever gets warped into that dimension is put into a genjutsu is very false. first of all, we didn't see them getting put under a genjutsu when sucked in, only coming out in a genjutsu. meaning tobi could have put them under at any time. secondly, neither sasuke, karin, kakashi, or naruto's clone were put under a genjutsu when warped. meaning tobi has to go into his dimension and do it manually. and minato can attack him when he materialises in there.

tobi trying to warp minato does not mean it would have worked. oro tried to summon the fourth, it failed. hiruzen tried to block it, it failed also. when you don't know the full extent of a technique you can get beaten by the details.

edit: that said, i fully believe that kamui, esp complete, is superior to ftg by a significant amount. meaning kakashi imo would be able to kill minato as easily as he would be able to kill other characters, bar tobi ofc. however its pretty much canon that s/t techniques cancel each other out, so the skill with which the technique is wielded determines the winner and it's pretty clear that minato is more skilled than obito at that, at least at that stage. also, pretty much no-one can reverse kuchiyose bar minato, only jiraiya did it once by mistake.
I didn't state that it was an automatic type thing. What we do know is that Foo and Torune were in a genjutsu inside the dimension. Obito could easily do the same thing to Minato given his genjutsu prowess and if Minato can't escape, which he can't in my opinion.

Oh really? You're statement would be valid if Obito didn't attempt to warp Minato a second time.

EDIT: not trying to say you're wrong by any means but you're underrating the intelligence of Obito.
 
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In case of Minato may be some sort of seal was placed in minato's wrist when he cought him.

but if u r talking about konan case then most appropriate answer would be Obito knew where konan was. May be it was konan's favourite hide out.

If obito was that much of a good tracker then why would he require konoan's help to locate Nagato. He could have tracked and found out the coffin of nagato himself and take away those rinnegan. Instead of taking risk with konan , tracking nagato himself would had been a great idea. I think Obito can only teleport to places where he knows that location of , or where he had once traveled to.
Nagato was dead so I don't see how he could sense him. He sensed Konan and Sasuke easily. He also teleported to Minato when Minato himself teleported to a kunai. Believe it or not, Obito is the best tracker in the series.
 

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Considering Minato needs the connection between him and his kunai and that being in another dimension will most definitely sever that connection. Again, Obito wouldn't have tried if there was any chance Minato could come back. He'd change his fighting style. I don't believe this is stubborness. Obito knows the mechanics of his own jutsu and he's probably studied FTG enough to know.

Think of it this way, when Obito goes intangible, his body can't be sensed. Just think of it the other way around. If Minato is in Obito'a dimension, he'll not be able to sense anything or anyone outside of the dimension.
wow so by your logic , if minato catches Obito and teleport to another kunai but at the mid point of FTG if minato drops Obito then would Tobi be trapped into minato's space time maze and could never come back to real world ? BY your logic minato's space time world is only unique to him just like Obito's space time ninjutsu is unique to him. ?????? answer me ??? :D
 

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Considering Minato needs the connection between him and his kunai and that being in another dimension will most definitely sever that connection. Again, Obito wouldn't have tried if there was any chance Minato could come back. He'd change his fighting style. I don't believe this is stubborness. Obito knows the mechanics of his own jutsu and he's probably studied FTG enough to know.

Think of it this way, when Obito goes intangible, his body can't be sensed. Just think of it the other way around. If Minato is in Obito'a dimension, he'll not be able to sense anything or anyone outside of the dimension.
wow so by your logic , if minato catches Obito and teleport to another kunai but at the mid point of FTG if minato drops Obito then would Tobi be trapped into minato's space time maze and could never come back to real world ? BY your logic minato's space time world is only unique to him just like Obito's space time ninjutsu is unique to him. ?????? answer me ??? :D
 

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wow so by your logic , if minato catches Obito and teleport to another kunai but at the mid point of FTG if minato drops Obito then would Tobi be trapped into minato's space time maze and could never come back to real world ? BY your logic minato's space time world is only unique to him just like Obito's space time ninjutsu is unique to him. ?????? answer me ??? :D
I don't believe Minato has that ability. Even if he could, he wouldn't be able to given that FTG is instant.

EDIT: What I'm saying is in theory it could work, but it's impossible for Minato to do that because it's an instant process.
 
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Nagato was dead so I don't see how he could sense him. He sensed Konan and Sasuke easily. He also teleported to Minato when Minato himself teleported to a kunai. Believe it or not, Obito is the best tracker in the series.
he can only do that cause of zetsu spores, and to be able to track someone using that he has to plant zetsu spores on them first
i believe he does that by touch
its probably similar to how yamato tracked samui and her team using seeds he made
 
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I don't believe Minato has that ability. Even if he could, he wouldn't be able to given that FTG is instant.

EDIT: What I'm saying is in theory it could work, but it's impossible for Minato to do that because it's an instant process.
nothing is impossible in narutoverse. May be Minato gonna try this new tech next time in battle with obito.LOLZ
 

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I didn't state that it was an automatic type thing. What we do know is that Foo and Torune were in a genjutsu inside the dimension. Obito could easily do the same thing to Minato given his genjutsu prowess and if Minato can't escape, which he can't in my opinion.

Oh really? You're statement would be valid if Obito didn't attempt to warp Minato a second time.
obito needs to materialse inside that dimension to do that to minato, and minato knows how to fight the sharingan. give nthat he's controlled a perfect jinchuuriki i've no doubt that he can control minato if presented with the opportunity, if he can beat minato that is. so it all hinges on whether you believe minato can teleport away from the dimension or not, personally i think that he can given that the basis of summoning is to call objects from one dimension to another, or the reverse in minato's case. as long as he has the seal i think he can.

and obito trying to do it a second time proves nothing, it would prove what you're saying only if obito had managed to warp minato to his dimension and minato had teleported back. it's pretty clear that obito and kakashi didn't have a full grasp of ftg in their mission with minato, and minato of course isnt going to let himself be warped regardless of his chances of escaping, he had no way of knowing where he would be teleported to and it would be stupid to risk it esp given the current predicament with his family and village.
 

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I don't believe Minato has that ability. Even if he could, he wouldn't be able to given that FTG is instant.

EDIT: What I'm saying is in theory it could work, but it's impossible for Minato to do that because it's an instant process.
When he redirected Kyubi's tailed beast ball, the TBB disappeared completely by entering a dimensional void and Minato even got the time to think where to release the attack. I believe it was FTG's dimension there somehow
 

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wow so by your logic , if minato catches Obito and teleport to another kunai but at the mid point of FTG if minato drops Obito then would Tobi be trapped into minato's space time maze and could never come back to real world ? BY your logic minato's space time world is only unique to him just like Obito's space time ninjutsu is unique to him. ?????? answer me ??? :D
You understand of course that Minato doesn't have advanced dojutsu powers that grants him another dimension and he only interacts in the dimension he always is???His S/T jutsus are only capable to interact in the "real world" where his kunais and seals are placed.
Kamui dimension is unique to the ones who wields the MS eyes (Obito,Kakashi). The MS creates his own dimension,no one apart from those who have the same eyes can interact in that dimension.
Minato doesn't have such power his S/T is confined in the dimension everybody lives in.
The only way Minato will be able to avoid kamui is by dodging Obito hits and try not to get touched by him.
But if he is IN he CANT come OUT.
 

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Obito won't try to send Minato away this time U_U Last time he got his ass handed down to him but Tobi's sorta guy who doesn't make the same mistake twice!

Tobi will obviously use Kamui [Ghost Mode + Teleportation] but won't send or even attempt to put Minato in that dimension U_U He could however suck others into that dimension and blackmail Minato.
 
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I disagree with that.
Kamui is a S/T jutsu that provides another dimension to the wielder,a dimension created by the eyes power that only those who have the same eye (aka Kakashi,Obtito) can interact with.It's like another "mini world" created by the kamui users. So unless Minato have the same eye power (obviously he doesn't) he wont be able to bridge the two dimensions (kamui/real world) to interact with his kunai's and be able to teleport.
If that was the case any user with an S/T jutsu or even a reverse kuchioyse could escape from kamui's dimension.But that doesn't seem to be the case since Kakashi and Obito were always very confident when they send something to kamui dimension and Obito has been using MS longer so he would have known.
Minato could avoid Obito's kamui cause it requires touch and Minato is a talented s/t users with fast reflexes.
But if he is in,he wont gets out unless Obito or Kakashi take him out.
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This is possible, but, we do not have proof yet, to decide whether this is a fact or not.

On the other hand, the lack of proof also applies to people who say that this is not possible.

For one thing, people say Minato can't beat Obito if he faces him once again because he wont fall for the same thing twice. The same goes for Minato. He learned of everything about Kamui during his encounter with Obito.

In my opinion, its very much possible. Infact, I've made a similar thread too: This is possible, but, we do not have proof yet, to decide whether this is a fact or not.

On the other hand, the lack of proof also applies to people who say that this is not possible.

For one thing, people say Minato can't beat Obito if he faces him once again because he wont fall for the same thing twice. The same goes for Minato. He learned of everything about Kamui during his encounter with Obito.

In my opinion, its very much possible. Infact, I've made a similar thread too.
 
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