[VS] Obito VS Madara

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Restrictions: None, they can use their full abilities you've seen in the manga and the anime.

Intel: Full

Location: Where they are located in the manga now.

Distance: Long-range

Intent: To kill
 

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Edo Madara wins mid diff. Perfect Susanoo can be used to destroy the chakra receivers binding the Edo Jins to their bodies, or Mokuton can suppress them, then Flower Tree World + Moku Bunshin can take Obito out.
 

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Obito can counter with his six jinchuriki paths.
Counter what? The Flower World? Cause if that is what you are referring to. Flower World isn't used until Mokuton or PS has neutralized the Bijuu.

A simple Mokuton branch did this to Full Bijuu Killer B.


Not to mention he has Perfect Susanoo to attack them with. They may be Edo zombies, but the chakra receivers are still vulnerable, and without them, the Jins can't be controlled.

Or Madara can go straight for the Gedo Mazo.
 

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Counter what? The Flower World? Cause if that is what you are referring to. Flower World isn't used until Mokuton or PS has neutralized the Bijuu.

A simple Mokuton branch did this to Full Bijuu Killer B.


Not to mention he has Perfect Susanoo to attack them with. They may be Edo zombies, but the chakra receivers are still vulnerable, and without them, the Jins can't be controlled.

Or Madara can go straight for the Gedo Mazo.
U could be true but can Madara even touch Obito?
 

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U could be true but can Madara even touch Obito?
Flower Tree World lasts indefinitely and without the Jins or the Mazo, Obito can't destroy it. His Kamui only lasts for 5 minutes at a time. If he becomes tangible he falls due to the pollen. If he waits it out, Kamui runs out and he falls asleep. Moku Bunshins are there for feints or to finish him off when the flower world has put him to sleep.
 

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If Obito warps a Moku Bunshin, and is then engaged by the real Madara, I can't see why he won't simply expel the doppelganger from the dimension, as he did with Sasuke and Karin and as he's done more recently with his Fūma Shuriken. The only reason Naruto was able to land a blow is because Obito was forced to make use of his intangibility at that particular instant [ ] - had the latter not been left exposed by the uniqueness of that scenario (Kakashi's deductive abilities, use of Kamui and the AoE of Naruto's bijūdama), the tactic would've proven completely ineffective. If it becomes obvious to Obito that a Bunshin has indeed been absorbed (which it will, if he finds himself under attack in this plane of reality), he can simply retreat to a more remote stretch of the battlefield and have it removed from the dimension.

Obito isn't limited to phasing when defensive talents are considered. We've seen him take measures to prevent himself from falling victim from within his own dimension - he was able to avoid the alliance's assault purely by teleportation alone [ ]. I can't see how Madara is going to exploit Kamui without;

> Having control over what goes in
> Possessing some sort of innate knowledge regarding the Jutsu's mechanics
> Obito acting hurriedly
 
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