[VS] Obito VS Kakashi

[Murasame]

1) PHASING If obito goes to the other dimension he can't use Kamui because the real kakashi is on the real one. It doesn't matter where he is fighting his kamui would be restricted because there will be kakashi on both dimensions. So his Kamui is in fact restricted when he goes to the pocket dimension, because if he uses it the real Kakashi atacks the part of Obito's body that is phasing trough dimensions.

2) SHURIKENS Shurikens wouldn't make things different.

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Obito in fact had shurikens at his disposal

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The result didn't change even with Obito and his giant shuriken.
When Obito phased trough the doton wall and kicked kakashi's ass, Kakashi was completely out of stamina, that's why he didn't dodge, he couldn't move properly, this was the last Kamui kakashi used, and it made Kakashi's eye bleed, after that Obito atacked him and obviously Kakashi didn't have the energy to fight him back.

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3) FIRE Kakashi can dodge the fire, Gai, Naruto and Bee did that, Kakashi didn't just because he was just shocked of the idea of Obito = Tobi , also there's no proof Kakashi can't use hiding like a mole on the pocket dimension, he used that jutsu to dodge Itachi's fireball, it would happen the same with obito's.

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4) COUNTERING MOKUTON About raiden, yes, Kakashi can use it pretty fast, if he can use it faster than 4 v2 jins then he would do it faster than Obito's Mokuton.

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Kakashi definitely wins this, I'm not saying it would be a stomp like it was in the manga, Kakashi wins high diff.

Lol your post is flawed.. I will reply to this later. Not only did you state false things but you also don't get my point.

 

[Trollasaur]

Okay if you wont debate let me just tell you Why Kakashi would beat MS Obito.

First of all, the one kicking Naruto's Bee's Gai's and Kakashi's eye was rinnengan Obito, and it was BEFORE they figured out Obito's weakeness (Kakashi's kamui). Once they did Madara came to save Obito because he was getting his ass kicked.

When Kakashi sends a clone to the other dimension, it would become like the fight on the manga (where kakashi won). Kakashi's base skills > Obito 's.

That's a summary of why Kakashi wins this.

lol rinniegan obito didn't even use the rinniegan on them, if he had he would of killed them.

but the plot can't have that

 

[EZQ]

Lol your post is flawed.. I will reply to this later. Not only did you state false things but you also don't get my point.

Waiting for it... How are manga scans false? All i did was posting manga scans, there's nothing more cannon than that.

 

[Murasame]

Waiting for it... How are manga scans false? All i did was posting manga scans, there's nothing more cannon than that.

True but the way you interpret them can be wrong.. for instance you didn't take any scans before or after what happened in the ones you provided into consideration. You will see when I reply (i'm lazy at debating don't blame me >.>) so don't change anything because I know what you put.

 

[EZQ]

True but the way you interpret them can be wrong.. for instance you didn't take any scans before or after what happened in the ones you provided into consideration. You will see when I reply (i'm lazy at debating don't blame me >.>) so don't change anything because I know what you put.

I won't change anything, you can check on the edits

 

[EZQ]

lol rinniegan obito didn't even use the rinniegan on them, if he had he would of killed them.

but the plot can't have that

Yes he did use Rinnengan, he used it to restrain the Hachibi. And he doesn't have good rinnengan feats he only had that to revive Madara, so no he wouldn't have killed them.

 

[Haizaki]

Yes he did use Rinnengan, he used it to restrain the Hachibi. And he doesn't have good rinnengan feats he only had that to revive Madara, so no he wouldn't have killed them.

What's kakashi's counter to izanagi?

 

[Tartarus]

If Kakashi sends a clone to the kamui dimension, then Obito just expels him.

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As usual, Kakashi wankers come with half baked arguements

 

[Trollkage]

Kakashi beats all forms of obito with low diff expect 10 tails obito

 

[BenjerminGaye]

If Kakashi sends a clone to the kamui dimension, then Obito just expels him.

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As usual, Kakashi wankers come with half baked arguements

He can't do that to kakashi since their abilities cancel each other out.

 

[Tartarus]

He can't do that to kakashi since their abilities cancel each other out.

By that same logic, it would work both ways. Obito should vice-versa be able to stop Kakashi from using Kamui, but he has shown no such skill with the technique. Only Obito has shown the ability to cancel kamui.

 

[Fresco]

Obito wins with medium difficulty. It speaks wonders when you have to restrict a character just so its an interesting fight.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Or Obito uses Izanagi and spamms stuff out of his dimension, uses Mokuton and massive Katon. Kakashi doesn't have the stamina to keep up with that.

Izanagi means shooting himself in the leg, really.

 

[garas56]

Kakashi win this From the point Kakashi has Knowlage of Obitos Streangth and Powers ther is nothing Obito can surprise Kakashi
And dont forget That Kakashi alone Owned Obito in dimension.And dont make "Plot" excuses Plot is created by Kishimoto if he wants Kakashi to stomp Obito and make that then its stupid to argue with Manga facts.

 

[Gold Lightning]

This is NB for you, debating a fight that's already been decided by kishi in the manga. Yet butt hurt fans still want to dispute and argue against it because they can't accept the authors decision. People can make all the excuses for obito as much as they like, but at the end of the day; once kishi put them on a level playing fields, there was only going to be one victor.

Now that kakashi has intel and knows exactly how obito manipulates kamui, this fight will only be a dragged out fight of what has already been decided on the manga.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Kakashi definitely wins this, I'm not saying it would be a stomp like it was in the manga, Kakashi wins high diff.

he has no counter for the barrier, izanagi or kurama

debating a fight that's already been decided by kishi in the manga

kishimoto forced obito to hold back extensively

Kakashi win this From the point Kakashi has Knowlage of Obitos Streangth and Powers ther is nothing Obito can surprise Kakashi

he has no clue about kyuubi or izanagi. nor would he need surprise with kyuubi and izanagi

And dont forget That Kakashi alone Owned Obito in dimension

a severely weakened and tired obito who was restricted by kishi to not be able to fight in his prime. when they fought earlier, kakashi couldnt do dik to mazo

Kakashi beats all forms of obito with low diff expect 10 tails obito

kakashi stands no chance vs any obito except pre MS obito. he got butchered in their every clash except the kamui dimension one. and was powerless vs gedo mazo and edo jins

 

[Gold Lightning]

kishimoto forced obito to hold back extensively

Keep telling yourself that

Its not like kakashi went all out either

 

[UchiGod Itachi]

Obito sends gedo manzo to the kamui dimension if kakashi try's to go over there so sneak attacks won't work i see obito taking this.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Keep telling yourself that

Its not like kakashi went all out either

ok so you think kakashi can counter izanagi and kurama?or get past uchiha kaenjin

 

[Gold Lightning]

Obito doesn't have Kurama so stop with that nonsense. He forcefully stole Kurama and lost it after 10 mins to Minato.

From what I remember, the uchiha barrier was only a defensive move. Even if it sealed kakashi, what's to stop his kamui ripping a whole through it or going underground and coming out the other side.