[VS] Obito VS Kakashi
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If obito uses Izanagi he looses his kamui eye and becomes a fodder (the OP says he only has one eye).
Giant katons are countered by hiding like a mole, Mokuton is simply dodged, Kakashi's reflexes are enough to deal with 4 v2 jins, he ain't getting caught on Mokuton.
Actually yes he can Lol Obito just didn't have the right tools.. if he still had his big shurikens he would've struck Kakashi with it instead of the rod but since he used all of them in the battle against Kakashi, naruto, and bee he couldn't use them. If he still had them their fight in the dimension would've ended in a draw. Not to mention he could've used mokuton to restrain Kakashi in that fight and no Raikiri isn't cutting it. Obito doesn't necessarily have to go for his hand.. he can just maneuver the mokuton to go around the raikiri in his hand and get his wrist.
And? Obito can spawn anywhere in the dimension.. he doesn't have to spawn in front of Kakashi's clone Lol
@bold Lol really? You know what I mean. Those techs would'nt hurt Obito if they had been used anyways Lmao The difference between their Kamui's is that Obito can use it defensively while Kakashi's is used offensively so even if he had used it would be a waste since it doesn't affect him. Like I said dipshit I'm not making excuses You're twisting my post into what you think I'm doing. They might've fought on Obito's territory but how does that matter when Obito couldn't use his kamui and didn't use any of his other techs? The reason why I say these things for Obito is because unlike Kakashi he can phase through all his attacks (if kakashi used all of them) while Kakashi has to dodge or counter with a tech if Obito used all his techniques and tools at his disposal. Thats the difference between them. Don't believe I didn't think about what Kakashi could've used because I'm not retarded.
He dodged a fireball jutsu.. wow so impressive lel Even Sakura and Chiyo dodged it when Itachi used it. Please don't compare that pitiful jutsu to Obito's juubi sized katon. I doubt he can go underground in the kamui dimension since those things they stand on look like they're made of stone. As for the mokuton and raikiri argument you mentioned I already went over that with ezequielosses just go read what I said. He simply uses Kamui to let that phase through him? If you think that Raiden is taking him out then you're sadly mistaken.
Anyways I've seen what type of poster you are so I'm not going to bother with you. I'll just reply to others who can make arguments.
Kakashi with full Intell Can win this.Kakashi Has much more feats,Obito lost hope to win the fight 1v1 against Kakashi when kakashi got full intell on kamui working.But Obito has chanses if he uses Tailed beasts but I wote for Kakashi Hard dif
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soldier pills. also medics. alone, he had to fight pain and DIED beause of using 2 raikiris, raiton clone and two kamuis. kakash isnt superhumanly durable so each shuriken slash/mokuton branch will HURT
Gold Lightning
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Lol give up because you have no good argument, just pitiful excuses.
And lmao at the part where you said the difference between obito's kamui is that he can use his defensively. What a moron, kakashi uses his for defense as well as shown against sasuke's susanoo arrows. Obito also uses his offensively to suck others in.
Kakashi doesn't even need to go underground, he made a water wall big enough to at least hold off a combined fire and wind jutsu from kakuzu.
If obito phases kamui then the wood jutsu phases through kakashi too.
Anyway I'm glad you're not replying anymore, your last post shows you don't have any valid points and that you're too stupid to continue, good day.
The moment Kakashi's clone enter the other dimension, Kakashi uses this move
Since it can be guided at Kakashi's will, Obito is forced to use his intangibility to dodge the attack and gets killed by the clone. People overcomplicate things that are simple. Kakashi is simply a bad match-up for Obito
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Since it can be guided at Kakashi's will, Obito is forced to use his intangibility to dodge the attack and gets killed by the clone. People overcomplicate things that are simple. Kakashi is simply a bad match-up for Obito
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Lol no I just know not to waste my time against people who will argue for the sake of it but if you insist we can make a thread where we debate this topic.
No shit dumbass I know all of that. The point I was trying to make is that Obito uses it to phase through things making Kakashi's kamui and all of his techniques useless unless someone else attacks obito from the other dimension which in this case can be Kakashi's clone. The reason I didn't mention his offensive part is because its useless against Kakashi u moron. Dont talk down to someone while failing at it.
Yeah because he totally did that when Obito used it right? [
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] Naruto had to give everyone the cloak to survive it. Don't compare Kakuzu's jutsu to obito's even if his was powered by futon because from what I see its weaker.I never said he was going to phase while using mokuton? Where did you get that from? I mentioned the phase to counter Raiden since you mentioned it.
Like I said if you want to debate then we'll make a thread and debate.. you can prove how stupid I am if you beat me. Sound good?
Or maybe Obito goes into the other dimension and takes out the clone first? Bogard come on you're giving Obito the intelligence of a kid and only putting this in your favor. Conditions say he has manga intel therefore he already knows of this so he won't be stupid to fight kakashi while a clone is in the other dimension.
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What makes you think obito can take the clone? Once obito goes to the kamui dimension he becomes a fodder compared to Kakashi, no kamui obito looses in CQC with Kakashi's clone, Obito's Mokuton gets destroyed by raiden wich could slice trough 4 v2 jins, 4 v2 jins >> Obito's mokuton so Obito's Mokuton ain't working on someone as fast as Kakashi, all the other tools obito has (chakra rods, shurikens, etc..) won't work either, Kakashi already showed counters for each of them: Shurikens < Doton wall , Chakra rods < Lightining enhaced Kunai , Giant katons < Hiding like a mole
MS Obito looses. When kakashi sends a clone to the other dimension this becomes a base-skills combat, and Kakashi beats Obito on that category
USSJ Future Trunks
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or obito decides to sit on his megazord bijuu summon and nuke kakashi
what about izanagi teleporting, and flame barrier
Jeez you people supporting Kakashi in this thread are so simple minded. Lmao who said he's restricted from using Kamui in the dimension? This isn't the manga restricted scenario they fought in so stop making it. You all say he was treated like a fodder in the manga fight yet both struck a blow on each other. Kakashi was just lucky that Obito lost the gunbai and the big shuriken so he had to settle for a rod otherwise that would've been a stalemate. You can't deny that. OP didn't restrict these tools so Obito shouldn't have a problem.
Sure Raiden can cut through mokuton but are you honestly telling me he's going to make a clone then do raikiri with the other clone to form the chain before the mokuton restrains him? Lel Unless Obito was still a distance away that isn't working in close quarters.
He just grabs a shuriken phases through the wall and stabs him like he did in the manga ;]
I doubt he can hide under ground in the dimension with those things that look like they're made of stone. He didn't counter anyways his katon in the manga with that. [
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] Naruto had to give everyone the cloak to survive it including kakashi.Kakashi can definitely win I'll take back what I said earlier in my first post in this thread (was just annoyed by how everyone was making it seem like a stomp) but you can't compare a restricted obito to a obito that's fully restored and has his tools.
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1) PHASING If obito goes to the other dimension he can't use Kamui because the real kakashi is on the real one. It doesn't matter where he is fighting his kamui would be restricted because there will be kakashi on both dimensions. So his Kamui is in fact restricted when he goes to the pocket dimension, because if he uses it the real Kakashi atacks the part of Obito's body that is phasing trough dimensions.
2) SHURIKENS Shurikens wouldn't make things different.
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Obito in fact had shurikens at his disposal
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The result didn't change even with Obito and his giant shuriken.
When Obito phased trough the doton wall and kicked kakashi's ass, Kakashi was completely out of stamina, that's why he didn't dodge, he couldn't move properly, this was the last Kamui kakashi used, and it made Kakashi's eye bleed, after that Obito atacked him and obviously Kakashi didn't have the energy to fight him back.
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3) FIRE Kakashi can dodge the fire, Gai, Naruto and Bee did that, Kakashi didn't just because he was just shocked of the idea of Obito = Tobi , also there's no proof Kakashi can't use hiding like a mole on the pocket dimension, he used that jutsu to dodge Itachi's fireball, it would happen the same with obito's.
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4) COUNTERING MOKUTON About raiden, yes, Kakashi can use it pretty fast, if he can use it faster than 4 v2 jins then he would do it faster than Obito's Mokuton.
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Kakashi definitely wins this, I'm not saying it would be a stomp like it was in the manga, Kakashi wins high diff.
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Obvious exagerating, but seriously Obito beats Kakashi.
The guy was soloing Kakashi, Guy, Naruto, and Bee with not much diff.
What makes you think that Kakashi alone can beat Obito?
And I'm not going to debate, it's not my thing.
Trollasaur
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Okay if you wont debate let me just tell you Why Kakashi would beat MS Obito.
First of all, the one kicking Naruto's Bee's Gai's and Kakashi's eye was rinnengan Obito, and it was BEFORE they figured out Obito's weakeness (Kakashi's kamui). Once they did Madara came to save Obito because he was getting his ass kicked.
When Kakashi sends a clone to the other dimension, it would become like the fight on the manga (where kakashi won). Kakashi's base skills > Obito 's.
That's a summary of why Kakashi wins this.