Obito ( Rinnegan ) vs BM Minato?

[pateuvasiliu]

That's the same sh*t

How can he have two bijuus of the ninetails?

So minato has this special Justus that allow him to multiply the ninetails transformation?

This literally would of been helpful over 15 chapters ago :|

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[VongolaX]

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What exactly does this prove?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

That's the same sh*t

How can he have two bijuus of the ninetails?

So minato has this special Justus that allow him to multiply the ninetails transformation?

This literally would of been helpful over 15 chapters ago :|

No you idiot. The clone stays in base/ kcm.the real one goes bm and they both sit in the avatar.

 

[Fresco]

Minato can probably only use S/T barrier in relation to one direction. I doubt he could use the technique to teleport simultaneous Bijuu bombs coming from different directions.

Again, Minato will exhaust a lot of his chakra trying to tame the 7 Bijuu and Gedo Mazo. Even he would have trouble against the base Jins because of their shared vision. This is basically him fighting the 6 Paths of Pain, Gedo Mazo, and a Rinnegan Obito who could probably defeat Minato 1 on 1, anyways. Another way to look at it is like a 4 round fight: Base Jinchuriki -> Bijuu -> Gedo Mazo -> and then Rinnegan Obito. Remember, Minato would be attacked at various points in the fight by Obito while he's distracted with either the Bijuu or Gedo Mazo.

 

[KidGamer65]

Obito doesnt need to impale the avatar or attack from outside, the point of impaling something with the rods is to make contact, then once contact is made the seal can activate. If obito is inside of kurama, then he's touching it which means all he has to do is activate the seal.

Lol So yes the rods would activate inside of the avatar, there's no reason why they wouldn't be able to.

Here naruto almost got bound from simply grabbing the rods with his chakra tails, [

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] if obito already has them inside minato's chakra then what's the difference between that & impaling?

Then all he needs to do is deactivate the avatar before he's bound or simply teleport out of the chains once bounds.

But my point still stands, we don't exactly know the limits to minato's power, we've seen him in BM but we have no idea if he can afford to split his chakra up after the fact, sure it's possible but we don't know that.

Your only point is that we haven't seen it so we don't know if its possible, even though all evidence tells you otherwise.

-After getting chakra to enter BM; Naruto can make KCM clones and SM Clone while using the Kurama Avatar, so he's splitting his chakra 7 times.

-Yet you are telling me that Minato can't even make 1? Lets be serious here. The only way what you are saying would be correct, is if Base Naruto had 7 times more chakra than Base Minato. That's the only way clones wouldn't be an option. Naruto only has 4x the amount of chakra Kakashi has, and Minato has more chakra than him, in fact his chakra is pretty large since he can enter Sage Mode in the first place. You keep telling me Naruto is an Uzumaki so he has larger reserves, but that doesn't mean that his reserves are that much greater than Minato's.
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When you create a clone you split your chakra. The difference between minato & naruto here is that an uzumaki can create more clones than usual because they can afford to split it up more times. My point is that we don't know if minato can activate BM while having his chakra split up, or vice versa. His chakra pool may not be large enough to maintain BM while it's divided.

Read above.

At that point do you really think minato has enough time to react & counter getting bound? When obito enters the avatar all he has to do it activate the seal & leave, getting noticed after entering the avatar doesn't help.

-Deactivating BM before being bound lets him escape.

-Hiraishin lets him escape whether he's been bound or not.

@Bold: Not sure if I'm misunderstanding the point but there's no way that minato's going to notice obito before he enters the real world, as it's never been done before & feeling a presence is the same thing as sensing it. A sensor should also be able to sense just as well if it was possible to do so.

I meant that he is sensed the moment he finishes warping, not before he's finished. After he finishes but before going ghost mode. So you did misunderstand.

So yeah even if minato senses obito before he becomes intangible, it's too late by then because he'll already be activating the seal.

He can escape as long as he isn't bound, even if bound he can escape with Hiraishin.

I highly doubt minato is going to expect obito to appear from under the foot.

He doesn't need to expect him to appear from under the foot. Malice Sensing works even against Obito's surprise attacks anyway. [

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He doesn't need to reach minato's body, the avatar can be bound instead which makes it easier.

Then he escapes before bound, or uses Hiraishin once bound.

As I said we don't know if he can afford to split his chakra pool up whilst maintaining BM.

Read above.

 

[VongolaX]

No you idiot. The clone stays in base/ kcm.the real one goes bm and they both sit in the avatar.

You're the moron that posted he can use ftg in his full bijuu transformation.

Kcm was never mention, you misleading idiot. :|

 

[BenjerminGaye]

You're the moron that posted he can use ftg in his full bijuu transformation.

Kcm was never mention, you misleading idiot. :|

He can use ftg in biju mode! And I never said that. I said he uses space time barrier, Via clone. I specifically said he makes a clone then HE goes bm.
Your argument was that he can't make the clones while in bm mode so I said he makes it before he goes bm.