Obito, Itachi, Sasuke and Nagato....The Plan & Obito's fail safe!! Must Read!

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But, why would fighting Naruto make Sasuke's EMS evolve into the rinnegan? And would Obito need a backup rinnegan if he has Nagato's eyes?

he probley thought this would be one of those theards where every one posts nice find + rep
 

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Itachi knew that Tobi wasn't madara. Tip #1 Itachi knew it wasn't madara, Madara is one of the most powerful ninjas who ever lived and wouldnt need to form akatsuki to defeat his enemies (not including Hashirama).#2 Itachi knew tobi had a sharingan because he planted amaterasu in sasuke to prevent him from using it on sasuke. You underestimate Itachi's intelligence. Tobi planned to control sasuke into destroying ,but what tobi doesn't know is that sasuke met edo itachi and plans to change his path once he hears from the person who knows everything.

I get what you're saying, but are you telling me, becoming an Edo was part of Itachi's plan?

Also, Itachi had seen Tobi's Sharingan, he didnt know if it was Madara's Sharingan or Obito's. He designed and planted his jutsu in Sasuke's eye to activate upon catching sight of that Sharingan.
 

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But, why would fighting Naruto make Sasuke's EMS evolve into the rinnegan? And would Obito need a backup rinnegan if he has Nagato's eyes?

I did mention a true Rinnegan user did I not? Nagato had genes of the Uzumaki, the Rinnegan worked for him perfectly!
Tobi cannot use any of the godly jutsu's Nagato could use, he can only control the Mazo!

he got from the fusion of senju and uchia dna the act of fighting itself didnt give him the rinnegan

Really? Cuz I thought the Senju DNA was used to create all the Zetsus and power the Mazo
 
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Oh, so your thread theory is based on a second theory, which you didn't bother to mention.
What?!! I have to write down everything for you? I thought after all the clues I presented you would figure it out for yourself! Honestly...

Obito saying "Naruto I see Hashirama in you" and "I will make you fight Sasuke" after the page where he asked Sasuke to transplant Itachi's eye's for EMS, was that not enough for you?

Jesus Christ!
 

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Read between the lines, just not in this case! I'm not sure what you are trying to say with this. Yeah Sasuke was always his backup, but there is more to it. I hope Sasuke wont go good now, he might be willing to help stop Madara, since it was his brothers wish, but after that he probably want his death match with Naruto, Sasuke wants it, and Obito wants it. The war might be a bit longer than what we could expect from current situation.
 

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Naruto isn't a Senju, but whatever, no biggie, I can see it though. It all rolls back to the sons of SO6P.

Ha! How about this, Kishi is speaking of the eternal struggle of negative and positive, yin and yang, good and evil. The key thing to realize about the yin yang is it is all about balance. If it was a struggle, then instead of a smooth line, it would be jagged and random, representing the chaos of battle. but it is not, it is the shape of two drops equally trying to overcome their counter parts position. An eternal dance of shifting counter points, a perpetual motion.

The elder representing the yin, the youngest representing yang. Positive, and negative. The tailed beasts are both, and both are needed for the creation of ninjutsu. It was as if The SO6P was a complete yin yang, perfectly balanced. Upon his death he had to devide his energy, splitting his yin and yang. Both parts, now in two seperate entities, are still in constant shifting postions, trying to over come each other.

Naruto represents the yang, in fact he only has Kurama's yang chakra. He is the positive. Sasuke is yin. He is the negative. They are both partaking in the eternal dance of shifting postions. My prediction is that they will become one, once again creating a perfect yin yang in Naruto. That is how he will bring peace, by bringing balance once again.
 

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Read between the lines, just not in this case! I'm not sure what you are trying to say with this. Yeah Sasuke was always his backup, but there is more to it. I hope Sasuke wont go good now, he might be willing to help stop Madara, since it was his brothers wish, but after that he probably want his death match with Naruto, Sasuke wants it, and Obito wants it. The war might be a bit longer than what we could expect from current situation.

I edited the post, in case you missed it!


Naruto isn't a Senju, but whatever, no biggie, I can see it though. It all rolls back to the sons of SO6P.

Ha! How about this, Kishi is speaking of the eternal struggle of negative and positive, yin and yang, good and evil. The key thing to realize about the yin yang is it is all about balance. If it was a struggle, then instead of a smooth line, it would be jagged and random, representing the chaos of battle. but it is not, it is the shape of two drops equally trying to overcome their counter parts position. An eternal dance of shifting counter points, a perpetual motion.

The elder representing the yin, the youngest representing yang. Positive, and negative. The tailed beasts are both, and both are needed for the creation of ninjutsu. It was as if The SO6P was a complete yin yang, perfectly balanced. Upon his death he had to devide his energy, splitting his yin and yang. Both parts, now in two seperate entities, are still in constant shifting postions, trying to over come each other.

Naruto represents the yang, in fact he only has Kurama's yang chakra. He is the positive. Sasuke is yin. He is the negative. They are both partaking in the eternal dance of shifting postions. My prediction is that they will become one, once again creating a perfect yin yang in Naruto. That is how he will bring peace, by bringing balance once again.

How is Naruto not a Senju? Because his last name isn't Senju? Please stop being so naive!
 
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I get what you're saying, but are you telling me, becoming an Edo was part of Itachi's plan?

Also, Itachi had seen Tobi's Sharingan, he didnt know if it was Madara's Sharingan or Obito's. He designed and planted his jutsu in Sasuke's eye to activate upon catching sight of that Sharingan.
No, Edo itachi (edo being released) was unknown to Obito and sasuke's chance to talking to itachi is what changed sasuke's decision.
 

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No, Edo itachi (edo being released) was unknown to Obito and sasuke's chance to talking to itachi is what changed sasuke's decision.

I am pretty sure Sasuke said that talking with Itachi only strengthened his hatred for Konoha. So Derp....
 

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I edited the post, in case you missed it!




How is Naruto not a Senju? Because his last name isn't Senju? Please stop being so naive!

He's an Uzumaki and a Namikaze(spelling?), but that's not important. He represents the yang in this perpetual cycle, as Hashirama did, and as the younger son did.
 

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He's an Uzumaki and a Namikaze(spelling?), but that's not important. He represents the yang in this perpetual cycle, as Hashirama did, and as the younger son did.

Okay say your grandad on your moms side was a Smith. but you are an Anderson, but you are still a descendant of the Smith's, would it be wrong for me to consider you a Smith even though you have their blood in you?
 

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What?!! I have to write down everything for you? I thought after all the clues I presented you would figure it out for yourself! Honestly...

Obito saying "Naruto I see Hashirama in you" and "I will make you fight Sasuke" after the page where he asked Sasuke to transplant Itachi's eye's for EMS, was that not enough for you?

Jesus Christ!
I don't think Madara activated the rinnegan by fighting Hashirama, and I don't think fighting Naruto will activate it for Sasuke. Your rinnegan activation theory is just a guess & it's wrong. And even if it were true, and it's not, Obito has Nagato's eyes in his possession, he doesn't need a backup.
 

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I don't think Madara activated the rinnegan by fighting Hashirama, and I don't think fighting Naruto will activate it for Sasuke. Your rinnegan activation theory is just a guess & it's wrong. And even if it were true, and it's not, Obito has Nagato's eyes in his possession, he doesn't need a backup.

Like I said, Obito cant use the Rinnegan like Nagato, and Sasuke, once he unlocks it! You tell me how the fukk else would Obito sync Sasuke with the Gedo Mazo Mr hard headed genius?

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Are you even reading past the Senju thing? I told you, it doesn't matter. I'm trying to bring this discussion to a deeper level and you refer to me as being "naive". Senju, Uchiha, none of that is important, what you are referring to is the constant battle between positive and negative. I figured you would have liked to have this discussion become more in depth. I'm not disagreeing with you, I think it is a plausible theory. Your getting too hung up on the two clans. The older brother and younger brother... You know what never mind.
 
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