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1 on 1 he only beat konan
might gai beat him
minato beat him
... Really? When???
(Not dissagreeing or arguing, just wanting to know)
1 on 1 he only beat konan
might gai beat him
minato beat him
Obito is as fight as the speed of light
No ?
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Manga proves you wrong.
Now GTFO
first of all thats like piccolo saying raditz is the speed of light which he is not, minato was just like piccolo there, its not hundred solid proof you moron
TWO. zetsu is also like piccolo, HE IS JUST EXPRESSING NOT FULL GROUND, read the part where KONAN SAYS IT TAKES LONG FOR HIM TO WRAP HIMSELF!
Obito even stated if itachi knew all his secrets he'd be in trouble
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Konan almost had him if he didn't use izinagi he's not unbeatable his kamui has so many flaws its surprising that even though he has the rinnegan he doesn't even use it, come on where's the shinra tensei and shit
1 on 1 he only beat konan
might gai beat him
minato beat him
... Really? When???
(Not dissagreeing or arguing, just wanting to know)
What do you think a 14 year old boy can do at that time.
did you see sasuke or naruto win against minato at the age of 14.. i don think so
he tried to killed obito but he failed..
That was before he acquired a Rinnegan, 6 Edo Jins and a Mazo to control, he also meant he could have been killed due to the trap Itachi set up not that Itachi could beat him in battle, Itachi himself is the one who admitted he was inferior.
Just about as good as me saying Sasuke could beat Naruto and then showing the Pic with Naruto being defeated in the academy
"If he didn't use Izanagi" LOL so Konan would have had him if he didn't have a tech to evade her? Nice Logic, Konan would have had almost anyone in the situation, he should be praised for having a counter.
Might Guy beat him??? what when he was 12? lol
he march straight through the village without pausing, he fodderized anbu squads under direct command of the 3rd hokage, weilds spacetime. fodderized 50 mist ninja that even the elite kakashi couldnot beat. can control kurama. have both senju and uchiha dna. thats what he can do
obito is not unbeatable, never was, never will be
What do you think a 14 year old boy can do at that time.
did you see sasuke or naruto win against minato at the age of 14.. i don think so
he tried to killed obito but he failed..
Yes but it isnt a fair battle anymore 2 vs 10.009
And obito already used loads of chakra he is not an edo.
sorry but you are wrong. Obito can be very very close to be unbeatable but still there is possiblity to defeat him.
Analyssis about Obito's skills:
1. Rinnengan - he may posses some skills in Rinnengan but he still doesn't posses Nagato mastery over Rinnengan. He only showed us: Outer path of Pain + mentioned about Human path, besides he posses only one Rinnengan it could be important clue from Kishi why he does't use Rinnengan as good as Nagato. Moreover He is not original user of this Rinnengan(Madara is)
Obito couldn't get Rinnengan, because you need EMS and then Senjuu DNA to evolve your EMS to Rinnengan.
2. Fire release, Obito may be great user of fire release but until now he doesn't show anything too much spectacular and powerfull as Madara's for example.
3. Wood release, We saw Obito as fourteen using wood release well against mist shinobi but why can't he use it so well now ?, probably because He had exoskeleton of spiral zetsu which could power up his wood relese.
4. His Mangenkyoy jutsu- Kamui, yeah it is true that he is master of Space Time Ninjutsu as we can see and in addition can become intangible or tangible whenever and wherever he wants, however it has five time limit.
That it:
Now comparing to Edo Madara:
Edo Madara's rinnengan(original owner) > Obito's rinnengan(transplanted from owner) - fact(from manga)
Edo Madara's fire release > Obito's fire release - fact(from manga)
Edo Madara's wood release > Obito's wood release - fact(from manga)
Only what Madara can't counter(for now) without using wood release clones is Obito's Kamui. However multi wood clones, sleeping gas from pollen tree or Perfect Sussano are enough to use whatever weakness kamui has.
Besides Edo states of characters, only chance to defeat Obito has Naruto:
Naruto's knowledge, speed and power > Obito's rinnengan(transplanted from owner) - assumption
Naruto's KM v2 kurama tails > Obito's fire release - (fact from manga)
Naruto KMv2 cloak > Obito's mokuton - fact(from manga)
Again Naruto has no simply counter to Obito's Kamui. However KM v2 clones + speed could be enough to challenge Obito's Kamui. Probably even Naruto without clones but using his max speed with perfect timing + chakra arms could give Obito's Kamui hell of challenge and possible even defeat him.
In short to defeat Obito, you have to posses:
1. Great amount of chakra, strength and great reactions time and sensory abilites
2. Multi Clones/ Chakra arms/ Space Time Ninjutsu
If Naruto learn FTG somehow then he can beat Obito officially, that what I think
However I admit that Obito is very strong top 5 easily, because there is no too often for characters to posses: great amount of chakra, strength, great reactions time, sensory abilities and in addition Taijuu kage bunshin or Taijuu Mokuton bunshin or Chakra arms or FTG.
sorry but you are wrong. Obito can be very very close to be unbeatable but still there is possiblity to defeat him.
Analyssis about Obito's skills:
1. Rinnengan - he may posses some skills in Rinnengan but he still doesn't posses Nagato mastery over Rinnengan. He only showed us: Outer path of Pain + mentioned about Human path, besides he posses only one Rinnengan it could be important clue from Kishi why he does't use Rinnengan as good as Nagato. Moreover He is not original user of this Rinnengan(Madara is)
Obito couldn't get Rinnengan, because you need EMS and then Senjuu DNA to evolve your EMS to Rinnengan.
2. Fire release, Obito may be great user of fire release but until now he doesn't show anything too much spectacular and powerfull as Madara's for example.
3. Wood release, We saw Obito as fourteen using wood release well against mist shinobi but why can't he use it so well now ?, probably because He had exoskeleton of spiral zetsu which could power up his wood relese.
4. His Mangenkyoy jutsu- Kamui, yeah it is true that he is master of Space Time Ninjutsu as we can see and in addition can become intangible or tangible whenever and wherever he wants, however it has five time limit.
That it:
Now comparing to Edo Madara:
Edo Madara's rinnengan(original owner) > Obito's rinnengan(transplanted from owner) - fact(from manga)
Edo Madara's fire release > Obito's fire release - fact(from manga)
Edo Madara's wood release > Obito's wood release - fact(from manga)
Only what Madara can't counter(for now) without using wood release clones is Obito's Kamui. However multi wood clones, sleeping gas from pollen tree or Perfect Sussano are enough to use whatever weakness kamui has.
Besides Edo states of characters, only chance to defeat Obito has Naruto:
Naruto's knowledge, speed and power > Obito's rinnengan(transplanted from owner) - assumption
Naruto's KM v2 kurama tails > Obito's fire release - (fact from manga)
Naruto KMv2 cloak > Obito's mokuton - fact(from manga)
Again Naruto has no simply counter to Obito's Kamui. However KM v2 clones + speed could be enough to challenge Obito's Kamui. Probably even Naruto without clones but using his max speed with perfect timing + chakra arms could give Obito's Kamui hell of challenge and possible even defeat him.
In short to defeat Obito, you have to posses:
1. Great amount of chakra, strength and great reactions time and sensory abilites
2. Multi Clones/ Chakra arms/ Space Time Ninjutsu
If Naruto learn FTG somehow then he can beat Obito officially, that what I think
However I admit that Obito is very strong top 5 easily, because there is no too often for characters to posses: great amount of chakra, strength, great reactions time, sensory abilities and in addition Taijuu kage bunshin or Taijuu Mokuton bunshin or Chakra arms or FTG.
basically people who can beat non rinnegan obito
Orochimaru. tobirama , minato, itachi, and sasuke
He killed 100 of shinobi with a wood release via the juubi