[Theory] Obito is trying to save the world. His ultimate plan.

[Orochimagus]

He doesn't care about this crappy world where ninja have to kill their family. Where little babies are experimented on by Orochimaru. Where villages are constantly at war. Where students have to kill their masters. Someone who doesn't care for people doesn't say "It's up to me!"

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[Vennybear]

interesting theory

 

[Frikid]

He doesn't care about this crappy world where ninja have to kill their family. Where little babies are experimented on by Orochimaru. Where villages are constantly at war. Where students have to kill their masters. Someone who doesn't care for people doesn't say "It's up to me!"

I don't see how it is different from madara's plan. He is trying to rule over the world via genjutsu and obito is trying to do the same , and after he accomplishes that, he would use izanagi/CoAT to make that genjutsu into reality?
But i don't think it works that way and even if it do, it is still the same plan as madara, just the difference is the "dream world" would be more real.

 

[Naruto D Luffy]

Great theory

 

[Sherlock.]

In the Shinobi world those who break the rules are scum.... But those who abondon their friends are worse than scum....

I don't think the man who said this can be evil....

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[saw2097]

Oh, please Obito is a coward who wants to run away from reality.

He is the equivalent of a child trying to run away to Disney Land.

The Infinite Tsukuyomi is the equivalent of suicide, something for people who can't handle reality anymore.

 

[mrsaphens]

Oh, please Obito is a coward who wants to run away from reality.

He is the equivalent of a child trying to run away to Disney Land.

The Infinite Tsukuyomi is the equivalent of suicide, something for people who can't handle reality anymore.

If he is a coward why does he just not kill himself or put himself under a genjutsu?

 

[saw2097]

If he is a coward why does he just not kill himself or put himself under a genjutsu?

My guess is that he wants to be under Infinite Tsukuyomi which makes it more real to him.

He is a nut job, who knows what goes through his head, at the end he is no different from any other would be world conqueror.

He probably thinks he is actually bringing Rin back to life with Infinite Tsukuyomi in his own twisted mind.

 

[NinJaGirl99]

If he is a coward why does he just not kill himself or put himself under a genjutsu?

Because he is one of those people who are not happy with just living their own lives. Like Madara, he thinks he knows best how everyone should live and is not content until he controls everyone. They are both control freaks. They think they can avoid the pain of the real world by creating a fake world they can control.

Too bad for them! Most people don't want to be controlled by someone else and they don't want to live in a fake fantasy world.

Both of them need to grow up. Life isn't all about kittens and rainbows. As my daddy always told me "Life sucks then you die."

 

[NinJaGirl99]

Actually, Naruto is a "hero" while Obito is a hero. Naruto has good INTENT while Obito will actually do what NEEDS TO BE DONE rather than go for wishful thinking.

Obito is NO HERO. A REAL HERO learns to live in the real world with the good and the bad. Naruto is not afraid to keep his friends by his side even knowing he could lose them. His friends strengthen his will. Obito is a weakling who wants to run a way from the real world because he can't handle the hardships that are a part of life.

Even if izanagi could create a real world from Obito's fake world, what happens when inevitably Rin dies again? The people in this new world will not be under his control any more will they? Death, pain, and suffering will be part of this new real world won't they? What will Obito do then? Start the cycle all over again?

 

[saw2097]

Obito is NO HERO. A REAL HERO learns to live in the real world with the good and the bad. Naruto is not afraid to keep his friends by his side even knowing he could lose them. His friends strengthen his will. Obito is a weakling who wants to run a way from the real world because he can't handle the hardships that are a part of life.

Even if izanagi could create a real world from Obito's fake world, what happens when inevitably Rin dies again? The people in this new world will not be under his control any more will they? Death, pain, and suffering will be part of this new real world won't they? What will Obito do then? Start the cycle all over again?

This girl is awesome, say like it is. + rep

 

[Orochimagus]

I am guessing you did not read the theory, Saw. With Creation of All Things he is actually bringing Rin back to life. The Danzo brough tback with Izanagi is still Danzo.

But bringing Rin back to life is not the only part of the plan. It is to break the useless ninja cycle. Just cause reality is the way it is, doesn't mean it HAS to be that way. Being a conformist with the cycle doesn't make you a grown up if there is a way to put a stop to it (At least in the Naruto world.) If he can change reality itself he'd probably be able to make everyone immortal so Rin won't "inevitably die again". Any truly malefic person caught under the Genjutsu could be filtered out and Izanagied or something. At the very least if say Obito makes everyone immortal it would make war pretty useless.

A lot of people who think they can handle the hardships of real life think so because they have a sheltered life behind a computer screen in a forum. They turn a blind eye to all the suffering and tortures going on at this very moment. The millions of people suffering in hunger. If Obito knows about Creation of All Things which was how the Naruto world was probably made, he'd be a villain for NOT trying to fix things. His strong actions will speak stronger than pretty words.

 

[Odemgee]

Obito is NO HERO. A REAL HERO learns to live in the real world with the good and the bad. Naruto is not afraid to keep his friends by his side even knowing he could lose them. His friends strengthen his will. Obito is a weakling who wants to run a way from the real world because he can't handle the hardships that are a part of life.

Even if izanagi could create a real world from Obito's fake world, what happens when inevitably Rin dies again? The people in this new world will not be under his control any more will they? Death, pain, and suffering will be part of this new real world won't they? What will Obito do then? Start the cycle all over again?

Obitos ideas does not make him weak just misguided. Just look at what he is trying to do. He's trying to create a world with no death, no pain, no hunger, no war. The only problem with it is that it would all be an illusion. They're are plenty people in the real world that wish non of those things exist and does that make them weak, no. They just want a better world. If that make you a weakling then why cry when someone die, why be concerned if a war breaks out, why be concerned if you see a child starving and just be life F it that's life deal with it.

 

[mrsaphens]

Obito is NO HERO. A REAL HERO learns to live in the real world with the good and the bad.

I think real heroes are the ones who make the world a better place. I think people who just accept the world how it is are the real cowards.

 

[UnknowNinjaName]

Obito doesnt want to control anyone he just wants the world without wars and killings he even said to naruto ill make you become hokage, and btw if he can turn world where everyone will be happy then he can turn that illusion into reality which sage of the six paths did it , which means his plan is to make everyone under genjutsu but in same time he wants to turn that into reality and everyone will be satisfied...i dont like his plan but i think thats only way to stop wars cuz wars will never stop even if all countrys unite someone will again come out and start killing spree which naruto doesnt care....

 

[NinJaGirl99]

This girl is awesome, say like it is. + rep

Thank you

 

[saw2097]

I am guessing you did not read the theory, Saw. With Creation of All Things he is actually bringing Rin back to life. The Danzo brough tback with Izanagi is still Danzo.

But bringing Rin back to life is not the only part of the plan. It is to break the useless ninja cycle. Just cause reality is the way it is, doesn't mean it HAS to be that way. Being a conformist with the cycle doesn't make you a grown up if there is a way to put a stop to it (At least in the Naruto world.) If he can change reality itself he'd probably be able to make everyone immortal so Rin won't "inevitably die again". Any truly malefic person caught under the Genjutsu could be filtered out and Izanagied or something. At the very least if say Obito makes everyone immortal it would make war pretty useless.

A lot of people who think they can handle the hardships of real life think so because they have a sheltered life behind a computer screen in a forum. They turn a blind eye to all the suffering and tortures going on at this very moment. The millions of people suffering in hunger. If Obito knows about Creation of All Things which was how the Naruto world was probably made, he'd be a villain for NOT trying to fix things. His strong actions will speak stronger than pretty words.

So you know how I live, tell me are you watching me from a distance are you all knowing.

You don't know one thing about me, so don't judge. Nor do you know everything about everyone, there are a lot of people who suffer yet they don't run away from reality, have you ever heard the phrase a self success story.

Second, the Eye of the Moon Plan is for cowards and the weak minded who would happily live their lives out as slaves, those that don't value their own free will, they would just let themselves be turned into mindless drones.

Obito is nothing more than another Stalin or Hitler, he wants to force his twisted sick plan on everyone.

I did read your theory and I think you are just making excuses for Obito's insanity. Obito is a raving lunatic who wants to run away from reality and play games all day in dream land.

Everyone in the Narutoverse is fighting againt it, has it occurred to you that they don't want to be under Infinite Tsukuyomi?

Has it occurred to you that the only people in the entire Narutoverse that want to be under it are Obito, Madara, and Kisame.

The manga openly refers to it as a perverse or the most terrible dream.

 

[Kurosaki638]

i can see this possibly coming. this would be nice opposed to the cleche ending were looking to happen.



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[Killahkels]

obito certainly has good intentions. he just wants to make a world better than this one, with no war and with his friends alive. better intentions than itachi who only ever cared about a single village

How dare you slander itachi sama. Itachi knew a coup would lead to civil war which would lead to world war. Other countries would have jumped at the chance to crush the leaf during a crisis.

 

[Orochimagus]

Thanks, mrsaphens! Conformists with the cycle are the real cowards. Sadly even Itachi and the great Hashirama fell for this vice. With time Hashirama's dream to grow and create changed into keeping things as they are. This conformist attitude created a lot of problems and injustice. There is no reason why a cycle of war NEEDS to continue. So many innocents suffer without any hope or blame.

I am sorry you do not understand, Saw. The reason I said that you did not read the theory is because you didn't seem to understand that the resurrected Rin would still be the same Rin because he'll undo it with the "Perfect Izanagi" known as Creation of all Things. You claimed that it would not.

Also, I am making a reasonable assumption that your life most likely is better than say people at war in the Middle East since I doubt people who are suffering in the worst of conditions have the time to be in a Naruto forum with a computer in the middle of the battlefield. If that is indeed your current situation, I apologize for my mistake.

Fact is that at least half the people in the world have a pretty good life but many are in hopeless situations for their entire life. People born with birth defects. Diseases they could not avoid due to unlucky situations. Being born in a country that is at war. The people who died from the nukes in Japan. The torturings and murders of children that go unsolved every year. Pretty words won't fix these things and they will continue to cycle. I'd gladly give up my freedom if there was a guarantee that not a single rape, murder, or hungry child would ever exist again. Madara is a control freak and Obito is a hero.