[Theory] Obito is the Rikudou Sennin

[GhostProject]

Enjoyed the read. Also, if you look at some of the older evidence of Obito being the new SO6P, this new support looks extremely convincing.

Also good stuff on noticing that Obito is the most balanced character in the series in terms of Yin and Yang =D

I don't necessarily agree that he is on the Sage's power level yet from what we've seen, but power doesn't make a 'God' or a parallel character. Naruto and Sasuke have paralleled Madara and Hashirama since the Valley of the End without being on their power level, so arguments against it because of that really have no basis.

Personally, I agree and think he is the reincarnation of Rikudou, but this time he's bringing the Sons together in a different way. Anyways, good updated support for this =D

 

[Armathyx]

Enjoyed the read. Also, if you look at some of the older evidence of Obito being the new SO6P, this new support looks extremely convincing.

Also good stuff on noticing that Obito is the most balanced character in the series in terms of Yin and Yang =D

I don't necessarily agree that he is on the Sage's power level yet from what we've seen, but power doesn't make a 'God' or a parallel character. Naruto and Sasuke have paralleled Madara and Hashirama since the Valley of the End without being on their power level, so arguments against it because of that really have no basis.

Personally, I agree and think he is the reincarnation of Rikudou, but this time he's bringing the Sons together in a different way. Anyways, good updated support for this =D

Damn I completely forgot he's even half Uchiha half Senju because of his Zetsu half, and yeah bringing the two sons together, good ideas there.

 

[GhostProject]

Damn I completely forgot he's even half Uchiha half Senju because of his Zetsu half, and yeah bringing the two sons together, good ideas there.

Yea, not to mention Obito basically created who Naruto and Sasuke are with the Nine Tails Attack and the Uchiha Massacre. There's a ton of interesting connections that really bring this idea together

 

[KCMNaruto]

But we don't know if the Sage is good or evil.

He only seems to care about balance.

Why did one of his sons inherit the idea that power brings peace? That can only lead to evil. Why would the Sage make it possible for someone evil (Madara) to show up through the Uchiha lineage? In the end, it's his fault.

Again I think Rikudo only cared about balance because, after all, he's based off Buddhism, the ying/yang, and the Middle Path.

Your idea that the Sage could manifest through the Juubi in the same style as Minato/Kushina showing up along with Kurama makes sense, but in that case he'd be with Obito.

If you say he could pop out of the Juubi and become alive again, then why did he die in the first place? He could have stayed and ruled the world in his own ways for eternity if that's the case, he'd just store the chakra in the Juubi, die, then pop out of the Juubi again... Orochimaru style.

^^ Yeah because the Sage of six paths was evil of course..., He doesn't sound evil to me after I read Manga where Kurama shows him in his flashback...

Besides you are talking like the Sage had choice to die or not die, FALSE !

He would die anyway because Juubi chakra took such deadly effect/toll on The Sage, besides he was old...

I agree with Bolded part

I disagree completly with underlined words, because you misunderstood what I tried to say.

I meant that even If The Sage's chakra(not physically) manifest in Obito as complete Juubi Jinchurki, then Sage could fight with Obito from INSIDE MAKE CONTROL OF JUUBI MORE DIFFCULT as well as WEAKEN OBITO and ALLOWING ALLIANCE SHINOBI TO DEFEAT OBITO

OR

The Sage of six paths's chakra avatar would free from Obito and fly at Naruto or magically appear into Naruto, either way to meet CHOOSEN ONE, THE SAGE WAS SPEAKING ABOUT.

NO For SAGE OF SIX PATHS's POPING OUT AS PHYSICAL BEING OR NO FOR OROCHIMARU STYLE.

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^^ Haha this , I agree if WE COMPARE OBITO TO SAGE LITERALLY IN ALL ASPECTS,

But I give a chance For Obito to resembling Sage of six paths...

 

[NarutoKage2]

Well this was certainly unexpected. Obito being the original Sage of the 6 paths? Kind of reminds me of the Tobi=dark future Sasuke threads lol.

 

[Armathyx]

Son don't twist my words around, both you and I know I didn't say "evil", I very clearly meant "neutral".

I meant that even If The Sage's chakra(not physically) manifest in Obito as complete Juubi Jinchurki, then Sage could fight with Obito from INSIDE MAKE CONTROL OF JUUBI MORE DIFFCULT as well as WEAKEN OBITO and ALLOWING ALLIANCE SHINOBI TO DEFEAT OBITO

This is a good idea for a scenario where Rikudo indeed choses to support Naruto, because I don't see Naruto defeating Obito in any other way at the moment. But I still find it more likely that Obito is just the Sage himself trolling everyone, or that the Sage is a separate person who is neutral.

The Sage of six paths's chakra avatar would free from Obito and fly at Naruto or magically appear into Naruto, either way to meet CHOOSEN ONE, THE SAGE WAS SPEAKING ABOUT.

So how does one "fly" from a subconscious into reality? That makes no sense not even in Naruto logic. Not even the Juubi can just "choose" to have his consciousness or whatever sort of intellect it has to leave its body or Obito, else it would have done so already.

And even if Kishimoto really pulls the "it's magic" card plot-no-jutsu, only a fraction of the Sage's power won't be enough to put Naruto at Obito's level. Naruto, or anyone else, or the alliance as a whole, would need the real man himself to give them his full power in order to defeat Obito right now.

I think your first idea was far better, the one I quoted above.

Let's not forget that current Obito is stronger than the Juubi.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Son don't twist my words around, both you and I know I didn't say "evil", I very clearly meant "neutral".



This is a good idea for a scenario where Rikudo indeed choses to support Naruto, because I don't see Naruto defeating Obito in any other way at the moment. But I still find it more likely that Obito is just the Sage himself trolling everyone, or that the Sage is a separate person who is neutral.



So how does one "fly" from a subconscious into reality? That makes no sense not even in Naruto logic. Not even the Juubi can just "choose" to have his consciousness or whatever sort of intellect it has to leave its body or Obito, else it would have done so already.

And even if Kishimoto really pulls the "it's magic" card plot-no-jutsu, only a fraction of the Sage's power won't be enough to put Naruto at Obito's level. Naruto, or anyone else, or the alliance as a whole, would need the real man himself to give them his full power in order to defeat Obito right now.

I think your first idea was far better, the one I quoted above.

Let's not forget that current Obito is stronger than the Juubi.

^^ Well that is true

But I meant that Sage of six paths's chakra avatar could give Naruto all abilities Sage ever had(like Sage's souls/chakra's avatar could brought all knowledge and abilities along with it and pass it to Naruto), Of course Naruto could only have part of Sage of six paths's chakra.

However Naruto wouldn't need to use The Sage chakra to use Sage techniques but power them up with his OWN CHAKRA, eventually Kurama.

Sage's chakra purpouse(after talking) would be only maintaining Rinnengan in Naruto eye along with all his abilities..., until Sage chakra run out completly...

Naruto could only get only one time usebale and Temporary power up, NOT PERNAMENT AS:

Sage's chakra run out-> Naruto loose Rinnengan along with all Sage's power, it couldn't be rechargeable...

I know this could be asspull and some kind of magic how it would work, but Kishi not once but many times proved that even impossible can be possible in his manga LOL.

I believe it could work, because Naruto could defeat Obtio and later fight against Sasuke as equal (without any cheap power up, as Sage's chakra could be already run out and impossible to recharge...)

But let's wait and se what will Kishi shows

 

[PIOLO]

ALL CREDIBILITY DONE FACT BY MADARAS INTELLIGENCE HE OUTCLASSED ALL............................................... ......................................... RIKUBITO IS JUST A STUPID FROM THE START.. YOUR A GOOD MENTOR HAIL YOU GODLY MADARA WE BOW TO YOUR HONOR... ITS ORIGINALLY ALL CREDIT IN YOUR BRILLIANT MIND TO BEGIN WITH... YOUR THE ONLY FIRST PERSON TO KNOW THE SO6P ITS TRUTH ACCORDING TO WHAT I SAW................100%FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT IS OBVIOUS AND SCREAMING ALL HAIL TO MADARA'S GODLY POWERS ONLY ONE PERSON TO HAVE A RINNEGAN...NAGATO IS NOTHING W/O YOUR RINNEGAN...RIKUBITO IS NOTHING W/O YOUR BRIGHT TRAINING AND KNOWLEDGE AND TEACHINGS, COMPARE TO SO6P HE IS JUST IRRESPONSIBLE NOT PROTECT SHINOBI WORLD FROM JUUBI, HE DID NOT RESSURECT HIMSELF TO PROTECT SHINOBI WORLD RIGHT NOW FROM JUUBI ONLY MADARA SUMMON ON WHAT HE SO6P SEALED AND UNLOCK IT...YOUR THE MOST ULTIMATE BEING IN NARUTOVERSE YOUR SO EPIC...................LEGEND... YOUR JUST TOO SMART EVEN SMART AND INTELLIGENCE CANNOT WITHOLD UPON YOUR NAME.................................HE HAS ONLY BY YOURSELF ALL... YOU DID'NT HAVE ANY CREDIT TO SOMEONE, WITHOUT JUUBI RIGHT NOW FROM YOU YOUR SECOND STRONGEST UPON RIKUBITO BUT W/O JUUBI FROM OBITO, OBITO HAS NOTHING, SINCE THEN WHEN HE WAS YOUNG, HE ALREADY BEEN DEAD.......THATS A FACT 110% IF SO6P IS MUCH POWERFUL THAN YOU, WHY HE DID NOT ANTICIPATE THE JUUBI AS A THREAT IF THE S06P IS INTELLIGENT ENOUGH, JUST MEANS MADARA IS (MADARA>SO6P) HAS AN EDGE IN INTELLIGENCE.............. SO6P WITHOUT JUUBI IS JUST NOTHING..WHY? BECAUSE MADARA WILL JUST MAKE A HAND SEAL / HAND SIGN THEN FINISH CAPTURED THE JUUBI AND BECOME ITS JINCHUURIKI WHILE WE JUST SAW OBITO MAKE A HAND SEALED (WELL OFCOURSE COURTESY DONE BY MADARA TRAINED/TAUGHT TO STUPID PAWN OBITO(WITH ORIGINAL MADARA,S EYES) GIVE HIS LIFE DONE BY ROCKS) WHILE THE SO6P MAKE THEM FIGHT TO CONTROL.............

SIMPLE AS SAY, MADARA HAS A HAND SEALED THE JUUBI THEN AUTOMATIC LIKE A TOUCHING PET (SAME AS HASHIRAMA TOUCHING PET THE KYUUBI DONE BY HIS HUMAN MOKUTON THEN KYUBI SLEEP) AND FINISHED BECOME ITS JINCHUURIKI

WHILE S06P NEED HIM TO BATTLE THE JUUBI TO BECOME ITS JINCHUURIKI...........


RIKUBITO IS JUST NOTHING WITHOUT MADARA........ MADARA GIVE HIS LIFE, HIS THRONE, HIS UNLIMITED KNOWLEDGE/SMART AND FINALLY THEFT DONE BY OBITO FOR ORIGINALLY COME FROM MADARA INCLUDING HIS ORIGINAL EYES.............
100% TRUE............................................


man sorry for english, hey madara's friend please help my english correct, im just too excited to say...

please my friend like madara's epic friend.........

 

[miromiro]

Rikudou Sennin had powers above Juubi, since he was able to defeat him. I don't think becoming the Juubi Jinchuuriki really meant a power boost to Rikudou as it does to Obito. Rikudou Juubiless had many more powers than Rikudou with Juubi or Obito with Juubi.

 

[Armathyx]

Rikudou Sennin had powers above Juubi, since he was able to defeat him. I don't think becoming the Juubi Jinchuuriki really meant a power boost to Rikudou as it does to Obito. Rikudou Juubiless had many more powers than Rikudou with Juubi or Obito with Juubi.

What if Rikudo just pulled the same trick as Obito?

Madara could've done the same, also... he had Rinnegan.

 

[Jako98146]

Obito and SO6P's rod is the 4 element jutsu thing
And why would Obito make so many sacrifices just for a buff

 

[H a n]

o.o Um.. So.. No. Obito is Obito.. He is not god. He sure didn't start the ninja world.. The Sage stood for peace not war.

 

[Armathyx]

o.o Um.. So.. No. Obito is Obito.. He is not god. He sure didn't start the ninja world.. The Sage stood for peace not war.

Again, read the thread, there's enough evidence he stood for balance, not peace or war.

 

[miromiro]

What if Rikudo just pulled the same trick as Obito?

Madara could've done the same, also... he had Rinnegan.

In order to beat the Juubi you need to have biggest powers than it. That's what Rikudou had. Juubito doesn't. That's the miles away difference between them. And Rikudou had the Rinnegan before battling the Juubi it seems.

 

[Armathyx]

In order to beat the Juubi you need to have biggest powers than it. That's what Rikudou had. Juubito doesn't. That's the miles away difference between them. And Rikudou had the Rinnegan before battling the Juubi it seems.

Juubito > Juubi sorry son... he proved it by breaking the barrier.

Also, Obito wasn't stronger than the Juubi before becoming the Jinchuuriki. All he had to do was pull the Jinchuuriki jutsu and tada, he became Juubito. Maybe Rikudo just pulled the same trick.

 

[Modaro]

My reply to this theory is short I'm just going to say your wrong ***** :stfu:

 

[miromiro]

Juubito > Juubi sorry son... he proved it by breaking the barrier.

Also, Obito wasn't stronger than the Juubi before becoming the Jinchuuriki. All he had to do was pull the Jinchuuriki jutsu and tada, he became Juubito. Maybe Rikudo just pulled the same trick.

Oh, so you really think Rikudou could have simply sealed the Juubi the way Obito did? Re-read the Manga dude, he needed to fight it, which means that Rikudou had to be more powerful than the Juubi and he was.

And how is Juubito more powerful than Juubi? It's the same power concentrated on a single point. Obito didn't come with superior power to the Juubi, he only used the Juubi to make himself more powerful, unlike Rikudou, who had optional power besides the one Juubi gave him.

 

[Jikukan]

This obito juubito shit is the biggest fail of NV, makes me sad

 

[Armathyx]

Oh, so you really think Rikudou could have simply sealed the Juubi the way Obito did? Re-read the Manga dude, he needed to fight it, which means that Rikudou had to be more powerful than the Juubi and he was.

And how is Juubito more powerful than Juubi? It's the same power concentrated on a single point. Obito didn't come with superior power to the Juubi, he only used the Juubi to make himself more powerful, unlike Rikudou, who had optional power besides the one Juubi gave him.

Naruto fought the Kyubbi but he's not "stronger" than Kurama...

In the manga, the sage is shown fighting the 1st form of the Juubi, not the perfect form:

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Also, nice signature for the post above :3

 

[miromiro]

Naruto fought the Kyubbi but he's not "stronger" than Kurama...

In the manga, the sage is shown fighting the 1st form of the Juubi, not the perfect form:

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Also, nice signature for the post above :3

Heh, that IS the final untouched form of the Juubi. It's at it's best because it was never defeated by anyone, or sealed. And Naruto didn't defeat Kurama, only took his chakra.