[Theory] Obito: Drinking the Kool Aid

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I see a lot of people talking about talk no jutsu and Obito, and a lot of the responders are saying it won't work because Obito just doesn't care about anything or anyone anymore. But, I think differently on that.

So, we know that, upon first meeting with Obito, Madara was already spewing his sermon about an imperfect world where peace isn't possible.

We also know that Obito, back then, wasn't buying it.

Likely, when Rin died, he reconsidered all that nonsense Madara was feeding him and bought in.

So, if you are someone that believes that the ultimate objective is to artificially create a world of love, no losers, no more deaths, and peace, then wouldn't any action you take in furthereance of that aim be justifiable as noble, despite the appearance?

For instance, he may have liked Konan quite a lot, but, if she was to stand in the way of the furtherance of the ultimate goal, then her life is justifiably forfeit, is it not?

Isn't it quite possible that Obito, despite his wicked deeds, could, in fact, be completely redeemable if he simply changes his perspective, much like Nagato did? In fact, I'd guess that Obito, even right now, believes he's helping the world.
 

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I don't doubt that Obito is motivated by a utilitarian view of the greater good. However, I'm not sure what could dissuade him from his current course of action. That would be some S-rank talk no jutsu.
 

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Off topic-The **** did kool-aid have to do with anything??
On topic- Maybe, he is just a version of naruto who's life just didn't turn out the same, He probably can relate to Naruto, And Naruto is a S rank Talk-no-jutsu user
 

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Im sure its more than just Rin's death that put Obito on the ult. path of destruction (moon's eye) . There is blackmail involved ,too. Madara quickly informed obito that there would be pay back for saving him. Then, he told him that he repaired his crushed half with an artificial harshirama ( zetsu clone). I wouldn't doubt if Obito tried to shy from the plan , the zetsu would REJECT him and seperate from his body...
 
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I think the TNJ could still change Obito but I do not believe it will be Naruto's TNJ. I think Kakashi will pull out some MS TNJ and turn Obito back from the dark side.
 

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It will either be Kakashi or Sasuke(if he himself changes) that will change Obito.... Either a once upon a time comrade or a fellow Uchiha
 

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First, off-topic, what Kool Aid has to do with anything:

Second, on-topic, I don't think the talk no jutsu needs to be any stronger than that which was used by Naruto on Nagato.
 
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