obito did NOT kill or cause minato's death

[SonictheHedgehog]

Well, Sasuke didn't kill Deidara, but he caused him to self destruct...<3

 

[jaykuhz]

Minato was suicidal.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Except that Obito caused Kurama to be freed in the first place, and after that sumoned him to attack Konoha.

Basically Minato died because it was better that way for his son and the world's future. Why?! Because of Obito.

No Obito didn't just go and kill Minato, but he is in text responsible

 

[King Of Kings]

Except that this would have pretty much done the job too.

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this is after minato decided to die, so this means nothing

Well, Sasuke didn't kill Deidara, but he caused him to self destruct...<3

the difference is that minato survived, but deidara was gonna die anyway, so he decided to take sasuke with him

different situations

 

[The Necromancer]

this is after minato decided to die, so this means nothing



the difference is that minato survived, but deidara was gonna die anyway, so he decided to take sasuke with him

different situations

So if minato said he would use the RDS, and then obito stabbed him through the throat, then minato is still the cause of his own death? Because that's what you're saying.

 

[xXBlazinNinXx]

Okay let me ask you......if Obito Nevered attack the leaf, Would Minato still be alive?

 

[SonictheHedgehog]

So if minato said he would use the RDS, and then obito stabbed him through the throat, then minato is still the cause of his own death? Because that's what you're saying.

This, either way it's the same comparison as what you stated in the beginning. You said Obito was not the cause of Minato's death, yet Sasuke was the cause of Deidara's death, but no, it's different then. You're contradicting yourself. <3

 

[King Of Kings]

So if minato said he would use the RDS, and then obito stabbed him through the throat, then minato is still the cause of his own death? Because that's what you're saying.

yes!, the rds is the thing that killed minato, if minato wanted to live, he could've did it easily

he didn't have to jump in front of kyuubi to save naruto, he didn't have to use rds to give naruto the kyuubi but he did it for the village, it was the best thing to do with the KYUUBI, not for obito

 

[SonictheHedgehog]

yes!, the rds is the thing that killed minato, if minato wanted to live, he could've did it easily

he didn't have to jump in front of kyuubi to save naruto, he didn't have to use rds to give naruto the kyuubi but he did it for the village, it was the best thing to do with the KYUUBI, not for obito

And Deidara didn't have to nuke, he chose to. <3

 

[NOemotions]

It's true obito didnt kill minato.. but it's true that he caused it.. didnt obito summon the 9tails to konoha in the first place, it pierced kushina and minato = they were half past dead, no way they could been saved after that.. and then he decided to use reaper to give tailed beast to naruto. So.. without obito's assault = no 9tails in village that time = minato & kushina still alive.. :ice: correct me if im wrong.. i dont remember that old chapter so well xd but as far i can remember it was something liek this

 

[King Of Kings]

Okay let me ask you......if Obito Nevered attack the leaf, Would Minato still be alive?

no, but the fact that im trying to make is that minato SUCCESSFULLY saved the village AND could've survived as stated by kushina

are you calling kushina wrong?

This, either way it's the same comparison as what you stated in the beginning. You said Obito was not the cause of Minato's death, yet Sasuke was the cause of Deidara's death, but no, it's different then. You're contradicting yourself. <3

how? deidara was gonna die anyway so all he did is try to take sauske with him, this is a completely different situation

 

[The Necromancer]

no, but the fact that im trying to make is that minato SUCCESSFULLY saved the village AND could've survived as stated by kushina

are you calling kushina wrong?



how? deidara was gonna die anyway so all he did is try to take sauske with him, this is a completely different situation

Would minato be alive if naruto wasn't there? Yes. But is he? No. No matter what you say, obito created the situation in which minato died.

 

[King Of Kings]

It's true obito didnt kill minato.. but it's true that he caused it.. didnt obito summon the 9tails to konoha in the first place, it pierced kushina and minato = they were half past dead, no way they could been saved after that.. and then he decided to use reaper to give tailed beast to naruto. So.. without obito's assault = no 9tails in village that time = minato & kushina still alive.. :ice: correct me if im wrong.. i dont remember that old chapter so well xd but as far i can remember it was something liek this

that was AFTER minato decided to die, so that means nothing

kushina stated that minato didnt have to die, so that means minato successfully saved the village and survived the attack

unless your trying to call kushina wrong?

 

[King Of Kings]

Would minato be alive if naruto wasn't there? Yes. But is he? No. No matter what you say, obito created the situation in which minato died.

so your calling kushina wrong and arguing with the manga?

 

[SonictheHedgehog]

no, but the fact that im trying to make is that minato SUCCESSFULLY saved the village AND could've survived as stated by kushina

are you calling kushina wrong?



how? deidara was gonna die anyway so all he did is try to take sauske with him, this is a completely different situation

And Minato would have died had he not chosen to seal Kyuubi..

 

[The Necromancer]

so your calling kushina wrong and arguing with the manga?

At the time, she was right. But if you didn't notice, 3 seconds later they were stabbed through the chest by the kyuubi. Clearly the situation changed.

 

[King Of Kings]

And Minato would have died had he not chosen to seal Kyuubi..

kushina thinks otherwise

 

[Sea Of Thy Soul]

Obito is the cause of Minato's death. Cancel that part out in your thread title.

 

[King Of Kings]

At the time, she was right. But if you didn't notice, 3 seconds later they were stabbed through the chest by the kyuubi. Clearly the situation changed.

AFTER minato decided to die

you just proved my point. minato chose to die and survived the attack, THEN he decided that giving naruto the kyuubi was the best thing to do, THEN he got pierced by kyuubi and seal kyuubi inside naruto

minato had already made his decision

 

[The Necromancer]

AFTER minato decided to die

you just proved my point. minato chose to die and survived the attack, THEN he decided that giving naruto the kyuubi was the best thing to do, THEN he got pierced by kyuubi and seal kyuubi inside naruto

minato had already made his decision

You're just being ignorant of the facts. Kushina stated he could have survived, but he didn't. So he chose to die to defeat the kyuubi that obito summoned. Suicide does not mean victory. Orochimaru caused hiruzen's death, Sasuke caused deidara's death, and Obito caused minato's death.