[Discussion] Obito deserves it...

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Main villain? Tobi was a shadow, he never the main villain.

Telling someone what occurred isn't manipulating them, Sasuke never sided with Tobi nor cared for him

Kybuui was always always amongst the leaf, he failed miserably and even lost control of the kyuubi himself

Without Kabuto it's questionable whether the Juubi would have appeared without Madara

You're joking right. Kabuto is a big chunk of what's going on right now, certainly, but if it weren't for Obito the war would've never even existed. and yeaah, he is the main antagonist.

He indirectly killed the protagonist's parents
Made the protagonist the person he is today
Manipulated everyone in the Akatsuki
and he toyed with Sasuke's emotions.
 

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This confirmed that you;re not worth debating .

You're probably a troll .
Zetsu were nothing for the alliance to feel fully threatened about. They were destroyed easily and if it wasn't for Edo, the alliance would have provided all their attention on them. Tobi was already having issues with Naruto and Bee.
 

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Zetsu were nothing for the alliance to feel fully threatened about. They were destroyed easily and if it wasn't for Edo, the alliance would have provided all their attention on them. Tobi was already having issues with Naruto and Bee.
Obito was already owning Kakashi , Gai Bee and Naruto .

You said that Obito is fodder ?? Yeah , I see . A shinobi who has Kamui , Rinnegan , Mokuton , Juubi's jin and Katon with large size , yeah it's fodder .

That's your logic ..
 
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I feel as if this power up was a colossal ass pull by Kishi. We see no hand signs, no prep, no ritual for this and obito is able to pull off the jutsu as he's dying? Imo a live Madara as juubi jin would be far more interesting. We'd see the culmination of his plan and years of manipulating the shinobi world while dead. Madara is the final antagonist in this series because frankly, he's the only one. I wouldn't call obito a villain so much as a butthurt friendzoned dude. His story is pathetic and we shouldn't praise him for the crappy character that he is.
 
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