Obito being "nothing but awesome"

[Seventh Sama]

Did someone really compare hitler to a anime character? :lol

Ah yes he did? His whole point was to stop the cycle of hatred and in order to do that you must forgive. That's what he did to Nagato, after he killed his master and slaughtered his entire village.

Wait what? Didnt naruto say he doesnt forgive nagato?

 

[lndra]

Ah yes he did? His whole point was to stop the cycle of hatred and in order to do that you must forgive. That's what he did to Nagato, after he killed his master and slaughtered his entire village.

But Naruto said he would never forgive him though, I think it's a more of an understanding since he saw his past and the manipulation Madara to him.

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[SSU]

He still wanted Obito to go back to the leaf and accept punishment. He even said so.

Well yeah, just because he forgives him doesn't change the fact that he did commit those crimes. He's gotta pay his time regardless of Naruto liking him or not.

Did someone really compare hitler to a anime character? :lol

Wait what? Didnt naruto say he doesnt forgive nagato?

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He says that but Jiraiya's will helps him get past his hatred. It helped him change his mind. He let him go and that was the beginning of his path to end all hatred.

But Naruto said he would never forgive him though, I think it's a more of an understanding since he saw his past and the manipulation Madara to him.

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That was before he tried to revive everyone and Naruto found out that Madara was just using him. Even though Obito still did those things, Naruto was able to forgive him in the end.

 

[KingHashirama]

That was before he tried to revive everyone and Naruto found out that Madara was just using him. Even though Obito still did those things, Naruto was able to forgive him in the end.

No.. he never forgave Nagato or Obito.. As they can't be forgiven.

 

[SSU]

No.. he never forgave Nagato or Obito.. As they can't be forgiven.

Okay I suggest you reread chapter 687. Sasuke is fighting Kaguya on his own and Naruto is too busy trying to revive someone he "hates". BZ talks about how he was used and manipulated and how he will forever be alone (you know the same issues Naruto deals with). He then dies, BZ talks smack about him, and Naruto feels the need to defend Obito, you know, the guy he still "hates". Cause that makes sense..

And Naruto said that he was going to kill Nagato and that he couldn't forgive him. But then he chose not to kill him. People can change their minds.

 

[Bradley44]

#NeverForget

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[Natsu Shazneel]

Okay I suggest you reread chapter 687. Sasuke is fighting Kaguya on his own and Naruto is too busy trying to revive someone he "hates". BZ talks about how he was used and manipulated and how he will forever be alone (you know the same issues Naruto deals with). He then dies, BZ talks smack about him, and Naruto feels the need to defend Obito, you know, the guy he still "hates". Cause that makes sense..

And Naruto said that he was going to kill Nagato and that he couldn't forgive him. But then he chose not to kill him. People can change their minds.

Lmfao None of that is forgiving. Its called not following the path of hatered by giving a second chance. He was only controlling his emotions so he does not continue the cycle of hatered.

 

[Nick01]

He was still "The Coolest Guy".

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

He was still "The Coolest Guy".

You say this as if Himawari was never the "coolest" guy.

 

[TenseiganFTW]

Lmfao None of that is forgiving. Its called not following the path of hatered by giving a second chance. He was only controlling his emotions so he does not continue the cycle of hatered.

Justice has nothing to do with hatred.
Just becuse a criminal enters death penalty that doesn't have to do with hatred if he gets killed...
People nowadays don't understand how world works becuase they're young!

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Justice has nothing to do with hatred.
Just becuse a criminal enters death penalty that doesn't have to do with hatred if he gets killed...
People nowadays don't understand how world works becuase they're young!

Explain to me how the world works old man.

 

[Nick01]

You say this as if Himawari was never the "coolest" guy.

She's female tho

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

She's female tho

There is still a male in the female. Makes no difference.

 

[ANiMUS]

Naruto understood Obito and why he was being an *******. Obito was mislead and self deluded, Naruto knew this was the reason he killed his friends. Naruto was willing to look past his mistakes because he knew the REAL Obito wouldn't have done that, that was the false Obito. The REAL Obito was nothing but awesome, Naruto saw the FALSE Obito that killed Neji as an entirely different person. Obito knew it was his mistake and he wanted to pay for it and didn't accept any of the forgiveness, he would agree with the people who say Naruto was being too forgiving and naive. But that isn't the point, Obito DID change and realize he messed up and needed to die, Naruto just wanted to save everyone but some are beyond saving like Obito. Obito wanted to be Hokage and his life was lived however wrongly in order to Shepard the world towards a better existence, Naruto relates to that he relates to wanting to help everyone so to him that makes the REAL Obito that he believed Zetsu was mocking "nothing but awesome".

The fake Obito Naruto had NO respect for.

Because being deceived makes all the atrocities u committed go away autoplay.

Fake or real those crimes were all Obito and while forgiveness is understandable praise makes the whole scene feel foul

Killed Neji-ignored
Killed parents-ignored
Cruelly enslaved the bijuu-ignored
Killed thousands of shinobi-ignored

30 minutes of selflessness+good guy backstory=coolest guy

 

[KingHashirama]

Okay I suggest you reread chapter 687. Sasuke is fighting Kaguya on his own and Naruto is too busy trying to revive someone he "hates". BZ talks about how he was used and manipulated and how he will forever be alone (you know the same issues Naruto deals with). He then dies, BZ talks smack about him, and Naruto feels the need to defend Obito, you know, the guy he still "hates". Cause that makes sense..

And Naruto said that he was going to kill Nagato and that he couldn't forgive him. But then he chose not to kill him. People can change their minds.

Not forgiving =/= Hatred.

No he said he wasn't going to kill him. but couldn't forgive him.

Because being deceived makes all the atrocities u committed go away autoplay.

Fake or real those crimes were all Obito and while forgiveness is understandable praise makes the whole scene feel foul

Killed Neji-ignored
Killed parents-ignored
Cruelly enslaved the bijuu-ignored
Killed thousands of shinobi-ignored

30 minutes of selflessness+good guy backstory=coolest guy

Yet, all those things according to Kishimoto were done by a man named Tobi/or someone who is "no one"..

And according to kishimoto "Obito" is the man who dreamed of becoming Hokage someday.

 

[Beatrix]

Heh. Naruto's not alone in his dubious comments/actions tho.

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For all those reasons you're appalled that Naruto referred to Obito as "...the coolest guy." - Sakura failed to take his eye, the fate of the world rested on Sakura removing the Rinnegan eye from Obito, the man who murdered thousands.

And she hesitated. Waited. Hesitated some more. Failed.

Nice one, Ugly!

So. What did we learn from this? Naruto is retard/idiot = confirmed. Sakura is useless = confirmed.

 

[DroGGz0r]

People still debating this shit, huh.

A walking potato could comprehend that stupid line, smh.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Uh, Naruto never found out about Madara causing Rin's death...

Why tf do people think naruto forgave obito? :lol

Lmfao Naruto never forgave Obito.

This.

Naruto told Obito to go back and accept punishment, Obito felt as if that wouldn't be enough so he tried to redeem himself by self-sacrifice.

Naruto never truly forgave him, it's just that he saw that Obito had changed, and didn't feel the need to 'hate him'. He still wanted to punish him.


Obito accepted the consequences for his actions by sacrificing himself.

It's like when a guy does his time, and then goes back to society, we don't just say, nah, you're still a criminal, get out of here. The whole point of jail is in hopes that they won't commit the crime again, else they'd be locked up forever.


You guys skipped the whole circle of hate thing in Naruto, didn't you? I know how people only care about fights though, so it makes sense.

For the god's sake naruto never forgave Obito.naruto just let him to redeem his mistakes before his death.

When BZ was making fun of Obito naruto just said that "to me Obito was the coolest guy"

Naruto found him coolest guy not because he killed thousands of people but because Obito wanted to become hokage just like naruto.

Naruto wanted to end the cycle of hatred so naruto started with his own self.naruto didn't punish his villagers for hating him.Naruto didn't kill Obito even when Obito was the reason kyuubi killed minato and kushina.

That's the reason there is a eternal peace in Shinobi world and the NAruto verse developed so much technologically

When someone says that person is "nothing but awesome", it means there is nothing wrong with that person. So he pretty much did forgive him.

Remember, this was the Kaguya arc. This arc contradicted things that were established just a few chapters ago... Naruto saying he would punish Obito is one of them. He didn't punish Kabuto or Orochimaru, remember?

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Why someone says "nothing but awesome", it means there is nothing wrong with that person. Remember, this was the Kaguya arc. This contradicted things that were established just a few chapters before it. Naruto saying he would punish Obito is one of them. He didn't punish Kabuto or Orochimaru, remember?

He ment the Obito that wanted to be Hokage.

 

[Radice]

Obito is the one who attacked a mother giving birth,trying to kill a newborn baby,rip out a bijju from a helpless weakened mother's body,not to mention that mother was his own sensei's wife and a baby.

Obito Attempts to kill a baby by blowing it up with an explosive tag

Obito unleashed Fox on village making him directly responsible for everyone that died then.
Thanks to Obito Minato and Kushina died and Naruto had to grow up alone as a Jinchuuriki hated by the Village.

Obito helped to kill his own clan, Obito also played with Sasuke telling him the truth.

Attempted to destroy all the world, directly responsible for starting a war making him responsible for 10,000 deaths, helped form and corrupted a missing-nin group and captured all the jinchuurikis. Revived the Juubi and Killed more of ten thousands people when became Juubi's Jinchuuriki.


5 minutes of his 'redemption' isn't making up for a lifetime of deaths and crimes. Just because obito had a change of heart after all his plans went to shit and he learned that madara killed Rin and planned it out from the get go means nothing.

Naruto:

"Hey, that guy that brutally my parents, hundreds of my fellow villagers, Tried to manipulate my "best friend" Sasuke, created the Akatsuki to hunt and Kill Jinchuurikins like me, started a war and killed thousands of people.
Buy Hey he had the same dream to become Hokage I did.
Isn't he the coolest?"



Naruto comes face to face with Obito, the guy who literally ruined his life and also sasuke's life and caused everything negative to happen in the entire world and he's just like "oh, it's never too late, you can change, we'll forgive you, you can be hokage."


No human is sane enough to forgive and still defend a mass murderer who caused global atrocities, and started a freaking war only because he wanted to be Hokage when he had 12

I wanted Naruto to display some form of realism, but then when he pardoned Obito and still defended him ruined what little good will a had left for Naruto....

Black zetsu only said the truth about Obito.
Naruto didn't have to defend him against BZ.

What he said was COMPLETELY UNREALISTIC and he lost many fans after that BS statement.
I liked Naruto when he was more goofy-ish and fun. Then in the war his personality and character type just completely changed to this "wanna-be" righteous hero...