Obito and Kakashi are not yet blind because........

[uchiahjay]

here's my thoery
Ms- kill a friend, both kakashi and obito are linked, so kakashi killing rin took care of that

Ems-transplant eyes, kakashi already implanted obito's eye, and obito has a lab of sharingans, so there

 

[-Logic-]

You all know......both Itachi and Sasuke almost lost their light while they were using their Susanoo!

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As you can see, that while using his Susanoo, even the pattern of his Mangekyou Sharingan has completely disappeared...leaving nothing but empty redness.

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In regards to the bold part; that is not true, because Susano'o, alone at least, is not what deteriorates the Mangekyō Sharingan's light: it is the fact that Susano'o requires both the left and right eye, to be used. The effects are therefore greater, thus, it creates the illusion that it is ultimately Susano'o which consumes the light; the reality is quite the opposite. Both Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu both contribute to the Mangekyō Sharingan's eventual loss of light...

 

[TheSyren]

Maybe it's because of plot no jutsu that kakashi isn't blind yet. They need him, or naruto would be a loose cannon. Plus, he is a main character. It's the same scenario with lee. When garra screwed him up, he got better. Plot no jutsu may not be... Fair?.. But it does happen

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Itachi stating the more you use your eyes the more your sight deteriorates.

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Kakashi insinuating that his eye sight was going.

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Itachi understanding that Kakashi was speaking in reference to his MS.

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Do you really think that the only way for an Uchiha to determine that someone has an MS is by seeing the MS pattern in the eye?

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Kakashi deduced that from his analysis of their previous encounter!

How could Kakashi have known about the blindness when you don't start to experience it until after you have used it many times?

 

[OnPoint]

I just think both Mangekyō Sharingan are linked; when one awakens, so does the other. When one begins to lose its light (though not from Kinjutsu), the other experiences the same effects. I'm not convinced that Kakashi awoke his MS - I honestly don't see him having the required feelings for Rin. It wouldn't surprise me if Obito's pain at watching Rin die was what unlocked his Mangekyō Sharingan, and this is what awakened Kakashi's (both eyes were in harmony [

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], and i'm sceptical about it being purely coincidental). So whilst people may be correct in suggesting that Kakashi hasn't gone blind because of his cautious use of the Sharingan's ocular powers, I can see Obito's possessing of Senju DNA being the reason why both eyes haven't yet lost their light.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

In regards to the bold part; that is not true, because Susano'o, alone at least, is not what deteriorates the Mangekyō Sharingan's light: it is the fact that Susano'o requires both the left and right eye, to be used. The effects are therefore greater, thus, it creates the illusion that it is ultimately Susano'o which consumes the light; the reality is quite the opposite. Both Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu both contribute to the Mangekyō Sharingan's eventual loss of light...

You see?! BOTH THE TECHNIQUES! Both the powers of the MS! Both MS powers also awaken Susanoo! It is because of BOTH the powers that one goes blind! You just strengthened my theory!

 

[6DIVINExJUDGEMENT8]

@ op

lol at that private message you sent me. good to know you like to pick and choose your battles. makes it so much easier to know what type of person you really are. sorry to pop your bubble of assuming everything in Naruto was done by design. listen cuz you might learn something and avoid looking stupid next time you make these threads and send private messages to people that put you in your place.

no writer is perfect, therefore no story is perfect.

is he good at what he does? obviously, but that doesn't mean his story won't have plot holes and mistakes here and there. this isn't called bashing the writer. this is what reality is. time for you to wake up and see that too unless you don't mind looking like a complete jack ass just because you don't like being proven wrong.

 

[TheSyren]

You see?! BOTH THE TECHNIQUES! Both the powers of the MS! Both MS powers also awaken Susanoo! It is because of BOTH the powers that one goes blind! You just strengthened my theory!

This is simply a hypothesis, not a theory. Since you have no way of testing it, you can't call it a theory. It's a nice sounding guess, but really, there is no way to prove it with only half of the information

 

[Victorelder2k13]

Nice does make since in a way and for those who said it isn't stated in the manga have you notice only those who had susanoo and using both eye tech ended up going blind in both eyes but I do agree about the Obito having senju DNA but Kakashi when he uses his he doesn't suffer blindness because one he doesn't use his eye to much. two he keeps his eye completely covered. and three he hasn't kept his MS on for that long

 

[MrSimple]

You see?! BOTH THE TECHNIQUES! Both the powers of the MS! Both MS powers also awaken Susanoo! It is because of BOTH the powers that one goes blind! You just strengthened my theory!

Nope, there isn't anything like "they both"

Kakashi did experience it's effect fighting Deidara, he's using one eye, Susano'o use two eyes, see the difference? It makes sense that Sasuke went blind after using both amateratsu and Susano'o, and they requires tons of chakra. There's no anything like "both eyes to become blind" but for how long you use them.

Kakashi just certify his own theory seeing Itachi's pain and what Kisame said.


And I believe that Kakashi did use his Kamui as much as his body can handle, he was bleeding, he was out of chakra and barely standing while Sasuke was alright even blind. Now that's what I didn't get.

 

[Abura Malakinos]

lol you guys are so stupid....

Kakashi has not gone blind because he barely uses it, Itachi had the MS for YEARS without going blind, just think about the fact that Itachi had the MS when he killed the Uchiha clan and still had not gone blind at the time of his death.

Kakashi will deffo go blind as he noticed the eye sight got worse after using his MS and told Itachi it was a double edged sword right at the start of part 2.

As for Obito there was a manga panel like 6 months ago where he said he will have to use his EMS, maybe it was just a bad translation but maybe he has so many Sharingan he transplanted a spare one in a while ago and its now an EMS. But I promise you that it never ever said that neither of them go blind at any point so don't state your wild speculation as fact.

Actually when Kakashi said that it was a double edged sword it wasn't because he noticed his eye sight getting worse, it was because he analyzed the fight between him and Itachi.

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, bottom left pannel, Kisame says that it is dangerous for Itachi to be using the MS and Kakashi picked that up and he put the whole fight together and figured out that using the eye was a double edged sword. :shrug:

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

@ op

lol at that private message you sent me. good to know you like to pick and choose your battles. makes it so much easier to know what type of person you really are. sorry to pop your bubble of assuming everything in Naruto was done by design. listen cuz you might learn something and avoid looking stupid next time you make these threads and send private messages to people that put you in your place.

no writer is perfect, therefore no story is perfect.

is he good at what he does? obviously, but that doesn't mean his story won't have plot holes and mistakes here and there. this isn't called bashing the writer. this is what reality is. time for you to wake up and see that too unless you don't mind looking like a complete jack ass just because you don't like being proven wrong.

When did you PROVE ME WRONG?!

You think saying Kishimoto doesn't know how to write his own story proves me wrong?? You didn't pop any bubble! Everything is already perfect!!

People are sometimes too stupid to understand his story! Just like how Naruto's clone was in Obitos dimension, and how Kakashi only warped the tentacle of Hachibi, and lol, how Fuuton Kazekiri was Narutos new jutsu.....so on and so forth....

These plot holes are nothing but misunderstandings, don't compare Kishimoto to the other half ass writers in Japan, there is a reason Naruto is NÚMERO UNO! Ironically....Naruto is the only anime I truly love, apart from Akira Toriyamas DBZ, which was another perfect masterpiece like this one!

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Actually when Kakashi said that it was a double edged sword it wasn't because he noticed his eye sight getting worse, it was because he analyzed the fight between him and Itachi.

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, bottom left pannel, Kisame says that it is dangerous for Itachi to be using the MS and Kakashi picked that up and he put the whole fight together and figured out that using the eye was a double edged sword. :shrug:

Exactly!! Another popular misconception. They think Kakashi knew about the eye going blind before he even used it enough to go blind himself....>_>

 

[Vegeta]

"This eye is special, the moment it awakens, it begins a slow descent into darkness" -Itachi

You may or may not be right, not enough info...yet

 

[KING KISAME]

Maybe its becz they don't have susanoo or amateratsu

 

[6DIVINExJUDGEMENT8]

When did you PROVE ME WRONG?!

You think saying Kishimoto doesn't know how to write his own story proves me wrong?? You didn't pop any bubble! Everything is already perfect!!

People are sometimes too stupid to understand his story! Just like how Naruto's clone was in Obitos dimension, and how Kakashi only warped the tentacle of Hachibi, and lol, how Fuuton Kazekiri was Narutos new jutsu.....so on and so forth....

These plot holes are nothing but misunderstandings, don't compare Kishimoto to the other half ass writers in Japan, there is a reason Naruto is NÚMERO UNO! Ironically....Naruto is the only anime I truly love, apart from Akira Toriyamas DBZ, which was another perfect masterpiece like this one!

you were proved wrong when you couldn't put any proof behind your own opinions. plenty of people here have proved you wrong but just like a kid, you don't like to be told that you are in fact wrong.

sorry but no, nothing and no one is perfect.

you're only making this unhealthy infatuation with Kishi and his story that much obvious. and as we all should know, fan boy opinions <<< logical facts. no doubt that there are simple misunderstandings made by people, but there are plenty of holes in this story as well.

humans beings = imperfection

therefore anything made by us is never perfect. time to grow up kiddo

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

you were proved wrong when you couldn't put any proof behind your own opinions. plenty of people here have proved you wrong but just like a kid, you don't like to be told that you are in fact wrong.

sorry but no, nothing and no one is perfect.

you're only making this unhealthy infatuation with Kishi and his story that much obvious. and as we all should know, fan boy opinions <<< logical facts. no doubt that there are simple misunderstandings made by people, but there are plenty of holes in this story as well.

humans beings = imperfection

therefore anything made by us is never perfect. time to grow up kiddo

Lol you're just a hater and possibly too dumb to understand anything.....

 

[6DIVINExJUDGEMENT8]

Lol you're just a hater and possibly too dumb to understand anything.....

childish fan boy strategy#5

when all else fails, just call them a hater

:sy:

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

childish fan boy strategy#5

when all else fails, just call them a hater

:sy:

Then tell me a hole and I'll fill it up for you hater lol

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Hmm. This is an interesting concept, and entirely possible. It could also be the Hashirama DNA acting as a psuedo EMS...and that link with Kakashi could keep Kakashi rolling.