Obama POTUS VS Hilary First Woman POTUS? Which Will be more Historic?

First Black President VS First Woman President? Which WOULD BE MORE HISTORIC IN USA?

  • First Black president

    Votes: 13 59.1%
  • First woman president

    Votes: 4 18.2%
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    Votes: 5 22.7%

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Assuming hilary wins which by now seems very plausible which would be more of a landmark? On the basis of historical meaning alone? Which is more essential to the progressivenes of the U.S.A First female POTUS or first Black Potus.

Obama has been such as sucess in office so far.He created the affordable care act to increase the quality and afford ability of health insurance, lower the uninsured rate by expanding public and private insurance coverage. He repealed don't ask don't tell. He repealed the Don't Ask, Don't Tell Repeal Act allowing gay couples to be open about their sexuality and still be able to serve.
He carried out an executive order on immigration reform granting amnesty to illegals instead of deporting them back in a cruel manner. Obama since getting into office in 08 pushed for immigration reform and he has played a vital role in gay marriage being legal in all states. It was his administration that killed osama bin landen a known terrorist who was said to have murdered millions of americans or at-least have been involved in it.

''Job creation during 2014 was the best since 1999, averaging over 200,000 jobs created per month. There were 10.9 million jobs created over a 57-month period ending November 2014''

That is a direct quote from wikpedia and you can check it yourself and do the research, in over a decade obama is the first president to bring the rate of unemployment so low, he has created so many jobs for americans and we owe him.

I pray hilary will continue on his work and i cant wait to see how she changes america.
 

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It's easy to overlook Obama's victories when the opposing party if fixated on seeing him fail. It's not like Obama wasn't handed a mess of a country when he took office and a republican president wouldn't have fared any better or worse given the state of things at the time.

All in all I'd say Obama has made some good progress considering. Not sure if this will continue if Hillary is elected. If anything she will face staunch opposition from both parties. Even more so since she is a woman.

As far as will she be more historically remembered than Obama? Depends on what she does during her term (assuming she is elected president)
 

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It's easy to overlook Obama's victories when the opposing party if fixated on seeing him fail. It's not like Obama wasn't handed a mess of a country when he took office and a republican president wouldn't have fared any better or worse given the state of things at the time.

All in all I'd say Obama has made some good progress considering. Not sure if this will continue if Hillary is elected. If anything she will face staunch opposition from both parties. Even more so since she is a woman.

As far as will she be more historically remembered than Obama? Depends on what she does during her term (assuming she is elected president)
Exactly! The republican party is hell bent on the man failing and despite that he has been great in office, made significant immigration reform and will be remembered for his historic affordable care act.

I was talking mainly about based on being first african american POTUS and being first woman POTUS who is history likely to remember on that fact alone!
 

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]Assuming hilary wins which by now seems very plausible which would be more of a landmark? On the basis of historical meaning alone? Which is more essential to the progressivenes of the U.S.A First female POTUS or first Black Potus.

Obama has been such as sucess in office so far.He created the affordable care act to increase the quality and afford ability of health insurance, lower the uninsured rate by expanding public and private insurance coverage. He repealed don't ask don't tell. He repealed the Don't Ask, Don't Tell Repeal Act allowing gay couples to be open about their sexuality and still be able to serve.
He carried out an executive order on immigration reform granting amnesty to illegals instead of deporting them back in a cruel manner. Obama since getting into office in 08 pushed for immigration reform and he has played a vital role in gay marriage being legal in all states. It was his administration that killed osama bin landen a known terrorist who was said to have murdered millions of americans or at-least have been involved in it.

''Job creation during 2014 was the best since 1999, averaging over 200,000 jobs created per month. There were 10.9 million jobs created over a 57-month period ending November 2014''

That is a direct quote from wikpedia and you can check it yourself and do the research, in over a decade obama is the first president to bring the rate of unemployment so low, he has created so many jobs for americans and we owe him.

I pray hilary will continue on his work and i cant wait to see how she changes america.
@Bold: That's a lie we can't afford it, so far it's been a mess with some benefits.
Just some advice don't look for information at wikipedia, you lose credibility instantly.
Other than that he's doing great with what he had to work with.
 
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Considering that it took women an additional 50 years to earn the right to vote in the US, a female president is more historic.

The Affordable Care Act was good in concept only. Yes, it increased access, but until the pay or play penalties are adjusted to something realistic, the cost of healthcare premiums for the working and middle classes will continue to skyrocket.

I doubt that Hilary Clinton would win a general election. No politician is completely clean, but the Clintons seem to have a track record of being involved in scandals.

Maybe in 2058?
 

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Both are but Obama is more historic. I mean black people use to be slaves in this country with no rights absolutely and now one is president.

It's not even a contest. I mean women have had difficulties sure but not like that. If you were a white women in a certain time in America you could own slaves.

The come up is real. Plus all the racists that voted against him because he was black lost. That was another victory for progression.
 
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@Bold: That's a lie we can't afford it, so far it's been a mess with some benefits.
Just some advice don't look for information at wikipedia, you lose credibility instantly.
Other than that he's doing great with what he had to work with.
Many of my friends and members of my community have benefited from obama care and are very happy with its effects. Think about the poor and the low income earners he has done alot for the community.

It is so good to find a president who cares so much about the american people.
 

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Many of my friends and members of my community have benefited from obama care and are very happy with its effects. Think about the poor and the low income earners he has done alot for the community.

It is so good to find a president who cares so much about the american people.
That's why you get common core and have fluorid in your water, ahhhh
he really cares about you, I mean he have to be nice to his puppets right? lel

he did so many bad things for you, not a single good one, and so many people like him

oh lawd
 

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That's why you get common core and have fluorid in your water, ahhhh
he really cares about you, I mean he have to be nice to his puppets right? lel

he did so many bad things for you, not a single good one, and so many people like him

oh lawd
Fluoride is gonna do something? Next you're gonna tell me that vaccines cause autism.
 
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That's why you get common core and have fluorid in your water, ahhhh
he really cares about you, I mean he have to be nice to his puppets right? lel

he did so many bad things for you, not a single good one, and so many people like him

oh lawd
In my opinion, the education system is fine and the water is great.
He has been such a revolutionary figure in politics and america at large.
I hope hilary wins 2016.
 

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That's why you get common core and have fluorid in your water, ahhhh
he really cares about you, I mean he have to be nice to his puppets right? lel

he did so many bad things for you, not a single good one, and so many people like him

oh lawd
The troll is obvious.

Unless you're actually dumb enough to believe Obama creates and passes every law in the US.
 

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The troll is obvious.

Unless you're actually dumb enough to believe Obama creates and passes every law in the US.
Obvious bait trap! Obama can only do so much when the senate which consists of mostly republicans, wont allow him to pass his ideas to help make america a better country.
 

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Obvious bait trap! Obama can only do so much when the senate which consists of mostly republicans, wont allow him to pass his ideas to help make america a better country.
I expect the same thing to happen to Hillary if she is elected. Opposition at every turn. Same if there is a republican president next election. Democrats will block him/her at every turn.
 
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