Obama or McCain
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SadisticShinobiX
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Neutrino00
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abortion=good
abortion=rights
rights=what most people want
I am 100% for abortion, if you don't want a child, and the child ain't really alive yet, and intellectually is more like a plant then an animal, then you deserve to have the right to get an abortion.
her record as a governer is bad, your right she should not be judged by her clothes, but what she has been using to fund the clothe buying, and how much she spent on it is bad.
abortion=rights
rights=what most people want
I am 100% for abortion, if you don't want a child, and the child ain't really alive yet, and intellectually is more like a plant then an animal, then you deserve to have the right to get an abortion.
her record as a governer is bad, your right she should not be judged by her clothes, but what she has been using to fund the clothe buying, and how much she spent on it is bad.
Sage106
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Neutrino00
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no one knows who really caused 911 there is no proof whethor bush did it, iraq did it, or some other party did it.
most likely it is iran, cause they OPENLY SUPPORT TERRORISM AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE NUCLEAR PROGRAM.
personally i don't like eithor of them that much but obama is still better
one thing i hate about both of them is that they don't like government funded health-care as well as other things, which is probably the only style of health-care that would work for the US.
What I hate is the lies that are spread about Obama being a socialist, he is not a socialist, and doesn't plan on making the US a socialist country.
those lies were only created by the Mcain supporters cause they are desperate and there side is losing.
most likely it is iran, cause they OPENLY SUPPORT TERRORISM AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE NUCLEAR PROGRAM.
personally i don't like eithor of them that much but obama is still better
one thing i hate about both of them is that they don't like government funded health-care as well as other things, which is probably the only style of health-care that would work for the US.
What I hate is the lies that are spread about Obama being a socialist, he is not a socialist, and doesn't plan on making the US a socialist country.
those lies were only created by the Mcain supporters cause they are desperate and there side is losing.
Sage106
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Neutrino00
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Obama wants to bring back NAFTA which is North America Free Trade Act, this will help with the economy.
when Britain stop doing mercantalism, canada entered a depression, cause there was no guaranteed trade with Britain, and we managed to get out of it by making a deal with the US which was free trade, of course they wanted to be able to fish in our waters in order to agree, but still, it brought the Canada's out of a depression.
It is technically possible that he did stage it, but i do agree that it is highly unlikely, and seriously doubt it.
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Sage106
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Neutrino00
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what do you know about the other plans?
I ain't american so i don't know everything about what they are saying.
If the economy fails, the great depression is gonna hapen again, and when that happened we only got out by having hitler and chinese and those people creating a war.
I ain't american so i don't know everything about what they are saying.
If the economy fails, the great depression is gonna hapen again, and when that happened we only got out by having hitler and chinese and those people creating a war.
Neutrino00
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I hope obama does get nafta up again as that will help the economy greatly.
also what i hate is people who think that mexicans and people from other smaller countries come to bigger countries like america and canada and do the dirty work like spending lots of time on farms where you have to hand pick tomatoes and other things, for really low prices that one of the actuall citezens would work for, greatly decreasing the food, making it so food is actually produced, and the working immigrants get to leave once they are done back to there own country where american or canadian money is worth alot more.
also what i hate is people who think that mexicans and people from other smaller countries come to bigger countries like america and canada and do the dirty work like spending lots of time on farms where you have to hand pick tomatoes and other things, for really low prices that one of the actuall citezens would work for, greatly decreasing the food, making it so food is actually produced, and the working immigrants get to leave once they are done back to there own country where american or canadian money is worth alot more.
Sage106
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Neutrino00
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don't think you saw this.
I also watch some of the debates, my mom is also into politics, also i am in a challenge socials class, and my teacher likes handing out newspapers about whats going on, and talking about what is going and how everything is going.
If they do the right things then the economy is gonna recover, but what is happening now is EXACTLY what caused the original great depression.
the 700 billion dollor bale out may have put america further into debt and put a big weight on the tax papers, but it did help recover the economy, if they didn't do that the chance's of another great depression would be like still way up there, that is probably the only good thing bush did.
Neutrino00
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I would also like to point out that to help the economy, and prevent this problem from arising again, is to put slight restrictions on the economy.
this may sound a bit socialist, but it is good.
socialism and capalism have there places, neithor are completely bad, or completely good.
you should have a balance, a completely socialist economy where the government controlls everything isn't good, it makes it so there is no reward for really hard work, you can't just work hard and become a big business owner, this suppresses the development of business like that.
this is kind of what is in communist countries.
a pure capatalist economy where there is no restrictions on the economy leads to greed, and also has the risk of causing what is happening now, where banks do to greedy, bad choice's get into massive debt and the economy collapses and you got the great depression all over again.
what the economy should be is kind of like the canadian economy, where you have slight restrictions and government regulations on the economy, which helps prevent the citizens from going massively into debt, and banks failing causing the economy to collapse, but still be a capatalist country so there isn't complete regulations, and people still can work hard to get to be higher up.
this may sound a bit socialist, but it is good.
socialism and capalism have there places, neithor are completely bad, or completely good.
you should have a balance, a completely socialist economy where the government controlls everything isn't good, it makes it so there is no reward for really hard work, you can't just work hard and become a big business owner, this suppresses the development of business like that.
this is kind of what is in communist countries.
a pure capatalist economy where there is no restrictions on the economy leads to greed, and also has the risk of causing what is happening now, where banks do to greedy, bad choice's get into massive debt and the economy collapses and you got the great depression all over again.
what the economy should be is kind of like the canadian economy, where you have slight restrictions and government regulations on the economy, which helps prevent the citizens from going massively into debt, and banks failing causing the economy to collapse, but still be a capatalist country so there isn't complete regulations, and people still can work hard to get to be higher up.
SadisticShinobiX
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look, i was only joking, i dont care about politics whatsoever, i think most of it is just a big waste of time.
im not an anarchist or a communist, but i have a mix of communist and anarchist ideals of what i think should be done to make the world work better.
plus religion is the cause of everything going on right now, war wise that is.
so im not religious either.
im just running my mouth right now, cause i really dont care about this subject, so yeah, im bored with writing about this now
im not an anarchist or a communist, but i have a mix of communist and anarchist ideals of what i think should be done to make the world work better.
plus religion is the cause of everything going on right now, war wise that is.
so im not religious either.
im just running my mouth right now, cause i really dont care about this subject, so yeah, im bored with writing about this now
Sage106
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Neutrino00
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capitalism only isn't the best though, the regulation thing is techniquely socialism,
My country is not socialist, we are technically capitalist, but we but we put regulations with our banks and stuff, that is why canadian banks arn't in danger of collapse. but we would probably be one of the hardest hit anyways since trade with the US makes up a lot of our economy.
My country is not socialist, we are technically capitalist, but we but we put regulations with our banks and stuff, that is why canadian banks arn't in danger of collapse. but we would probably be one of the hardest hit anyways since trade with the US makes up a lot of our economy.
haha, you say bush is the worst president ever, but I doubt you can do better.
I don't like this, obamo has only big words and so goes for almost all politicians. But that doesn't mean he's really good.
Mccain is quite good but palin ruines it all for him.
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Neutrino00
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OH you think Obama only has big words?
1)the things Obama has been saying is better than what Mcain suggests
2)Obama's plans financially are better than Mcain
3)he wants to lower tax's for 95% of americans
4)Obama is actually smart, he picked a vice president that covered for his weakness's and would give him good advice.
Mcain negatives:
1)constantly changing his plan, so he is obviously unsure about what to do, does america need an unsure leader?
2)Mcain is constantly lieing about Obama, by saying he wants to raise tax's, but Obama has been saying throughout the entire election he is lowering tax's for 95% of the population.
3)supports bush economically(the US is 11 trillion dollors in debt cause of him and past governments)
4)picked a bad vice president, cause he thinks that picking a women president(without looking at her history and ideals and stuff)(even if he did, if he agrees with what palin want's then he is sort of just as bad) will give him the womens vote, nothing more.
5)Mcain is old, if he dies we would be stuck with palin, who i think of possible presidents is probably the only one who would be worse than bush.
1)the things Obama has been saying is better than what Mcain suggests
2)Obama's plans financially are better than Mcain
3)he wants to lower tax's for 95% of americans
4)Obama is actually smart, he picked a vice president that covered for his weakness's and would give him good advice.
Mcain negatives:
1)constantly changing his plan, so he is obviously unsure about what to do, does america need an unsure leader?
2)Mcain is constantly lieing about Obama, by saying he wants to raise tax's, but Obama has been saying throughout the entire election he is lowering tax's for 95% of the population.
3)supports bush economically(the US is 11 trillion dollors in debt cause of him and past governments)
4)picked a bad vice president, cause he thinks that picking a women president(without looking at her history and ideals and stuff)(even if he did, if he agrees with what palin want's then he is sort of just as bad) will give him the womens vote, nothing more.
5)Mcain is old, if he dies we would be stuck with palin, who i think of possible presidents is probably the only one who would be worse than bush.