Now we're apart, though not through choice

[Hawker]

Are the West and East ever going to get along? The muslims and christians?

9/11 attacks, Al-Qaida, the Muhammed cartoon controversy in Denmark 2005, ISIS, Charlie Hebdo attack.

I know it's not an actual problem between the two, but it's about the fundamentalists. Innocent people have suffered because of religion and we're on the 21st century. Now our generation holds the key to peace in their hands, we have the most open minded generation in the history of the world and stuff like this is still happening. What use there is of the progress of our race if we can't make a point without killing each other?

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Do you think this hate will get squashed in our lifetime or will it continue as long as there are Islam fundamentalists?

 

[Avani]

West and the east?

For all practical purpose in the East we believe that both of you are similar. Both religions have the same roots- Abrahmic religions .. And both are in the west from where I'm. :|



How about the west and the Middle East?

 

[Itachi of the Uchiha clan]

9/11 was an inside job though

 

[Hawker]

West and the east?

For all practical purpose in the East we believe that both of you are similar. Both religions have the same roots- Abrahmic religions .. And both are in the west from where I'm. :|

You know what I meant

 

[Mari Makinami]

There will always be opposition, that's in human nature. If not religion or ideology, people will find some other excuse of killing each other.

 

[Tennis Robot]

Which people aren't innocent?

 

[Gerkak]

There will always be opposition, that's in human nature. If not religion or ideology, people will find some other excuse of killing each other.

This is the truth.

 

[Tennis Robot]

This is the truth.

No it isn't. That's what you have resigned yourself to believing because you lack the conviction to try to change it.

 

[Gerkak]

No it isn't. That's what you have resigned yourself to believing because you lack the conviction to try to change it.

Perhaps. My view is simply that humanity must rise up and change as a whole. No one man or group of people can change the world, a man can only live so long and a group of people is simply that, a group of people. That group will soon be isolated and believed to be a terrorist organisation or something of that nature.

Humans often like to sit and believe that some great man will rise up and unite humanity, even if such a person appears without an attitude change from all people nothing will get better. In other words they must unanimously agree to work together and abandon selfishness for the sake of humanity and follow said great man

Even if I do possess the conviction to change the world without people walking with me what can a mere man achieve?

 

[Tennis Robot]

Perhaps. My view is simply that humanity must rise up and change as a whole. No one man or group of people can change the world, a man can only live so long and a group of people is simply that, a group of people. That group will soon be isolated and believed to be a terrorist organisation or something of that nature.

Humans often like to sit and believe that some great man will rise up and unite humanity, even if such a person appears without an attitude change from all people nothing will get better. In other words they must unanimously agree to work together and abandon selfishness for the sake of humanity and follow said great man

Even if I do possess the conviction to change the world without people walking with me what can a mere man achieve?

A mere man can find out what he can achieve. The goal will never be reached if the mission is never started. And maybe you won't be around when it comes full circle. You can't expect yourself to solve such deep-seated and widespread problems within the limited time you have here.

 

[Gerkak]

A mere man can find out what he can achieve. The goal will never be reached if the mission is never started. And maybe you won't be around when it comes full circle. You can't expect yourself to solve such deep-seated and widespread problems within the limited time you have here.

True I shouldn't expect myself to be around when the goal is even halfway let alone complete. But, the point I was trying to make is several people in the past have started but the ultimate goal was never achieved because the people who were suppose to continue towards these goals, fell to the negatives of humanity particularly greed.

The thing is two sided, the leader may start the mission and continue till the very end, but the followers must choose to continue to follow what the leader has left for them even after said leader is gone. The followers must have the will to change humanity themselves just like the leader did. Both these 2 sides must be present the leader alone will not be able to achieve anything, it is just like fighting against a current until you run out of strength.

Over the years humanity has been failing to unite itself for this reason.

 

[Tennis Robot]

True I shouldn't expect myself to be around when the goal is even halfway let alone complete. But, the point I was trying to make is several people in the past have started but the ultimate goal was never achieved because the people who were suppose to continue towards these goals, fell to the negatives of humanity particularly greed.

The thing is two sided, the leader may start the mission and continue till the very end, but the followers must choose to continue to follow what the leader has left for them even after said leader is gone. The followers must have the will to change humanity themselves just like the leader did. Both these 2 sides must be present the leader alone will not be able to achieve anything, it is just like fighting against a current until you run out of strength.

Over the years humanity has been failing to unite itself for this reason.

There are a lot of reasons for humanity's disunity. And the will can be passed on as long as it is understood.

 

[BlacLord™]

No it isn't. That's what you have resigned yourself to believing because you lack the conviction to try to change it.

It is the truth.

That's human nature. The only way to bring it to absolute minimum is to draw all humans into one, single global culture but that won't eradicate it nor even work because people like to attach themselves to a unique set of ideas in order to make them individual.

And it wouldn't eradicate because there will always be significant amounts of people who crave confrontation and/or dissimilarity and amongst them, further individual desires can be discerned.

One of the many truths of existence is that neither Yin nor Yang can survive without the other. This isn't the fictional world of Naruto, where everybody learns to holds hands and hold identical views. The best we can do is encourage the minimization of "Yin", and maximization of "Yang".

 

[Hawker]

True I shouldn't expect myself to be around when the goal is even halfway let alone complete. But, the point I was trying to make is several people in the past have started but the ultimate goal was never achieved because the people who were suppose to continue towards these goals, fell to the negatives of humanity particularly greed.

The thing is two sided, the leader may start the mission and continue till the very end, but the followers must choose to continue to follow what the leader has left for them even after said leader is gone. The followers must have the will to change humanity themselves just like the leader did. Both these 2 sides must be present the leader alone will not be able to achieve anything, it is just like fighting against a current until you run out of strength.

Over the years humanity has been failing to unite itself for this reason.

This is very true. Though I think the hardest obstacle is selfishness. How could human nature be changed?

 

[Tennis Robot]

It is the truth.

That's human nature. The only way to bring it to absolute minimum is to draw all humans into one, single global culture but that won't eradicate it nor even work because people like to attach themselves to a unique set of ideas in order to make them individual.

And it wouldn't eradicate because there will always be significant amounts of people who crave confrontation and/or dissimilarity and amongst them, further individual desires can be discerned.

One of the many truths of existence is that neither Yin nor Yang can survive without the other. This isn't the fictional world of Naruto, where everybody learns to holds hands and hold identical views. The best we can do is encourage the minimization of "Yin", and maximization of "Yang".

I think that people can coexist and maintain different cultural beliefs. It's hard to put into words...but now as I think about it I'm realizing that it could very easily be the catalyst for reverting things back to the way they are now. Ultimately, one would have to treat everyone as an individual, but also regard all people with the same attitude. Or something like that. I need to think about this.

 

[Wabbit]

It seems the US lead war on terror which is supported by many of its allies which make it people think it is the war of Christians vs Muslims.

If both get a common enemy,may be if the fundamentalists totally leave the west alone and if they shift their focus on the east,Russia or others,western countries would love to sit and criticize those victim countries and their responses cry about humanity,religious freedom. US is strategically and ally of Pakistan and they love Saudis too.