Not Enough Talent

[Klepto]

Allow me to reiterate.

Tsk!! I'm not getting anywhere. I give up. Delete this thread and forget everything about it.

I gave up a few post back -Minato-.

 

[ZK]

klepto.. seriously.. if you dont like the way some people battle, dont read the fight, noone is forcing you to, therefore, i fail to see the point of your complaints, you are a new member who is not yet even able to take part in any form of battle rp, and therefore, cannot really raise objections as to how it works..

so please stop trying to flame the older members and concentrate more on how you want to rp on this site, as everyone here has their own style of rp, and are entitled to rp however they want...

Meh, i hope he wasn't aiming for flaming O_O

At any rate Klepto, start your own fights and try to pull the level upwards, instead of being a biatch and quitting without trying.
I told you i'm up for RP fights whenever you want, but you seem to miss that, it seems to me that you're just talk.
Seriously, what the hell did you expect?
You even straight out called me a non RP'er, not cool...

You made this thread, now pick up your balls and go make som RP, i'm ready when you are.

I'll even f*cking start some for you...

BTW, you can flame me beat me and insult me (on NB ) but don't ever screw with my RP O_O

 

[Adachi]

The whole point in RP "IS" to role play. Why bother writing anything if your not gonna role play in the first place?

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Go there to refer back to the basics written by * Rei *. * Rei * makes many good points taking the words right outta my mouth. Trust, I have read some good fights, some were even funny, Darui is good about making his battles funny. But here again not everyone is writing seriously thus making the battles boring and dull. It's a lack of talent that should be fixed is all I'm saying.

Booooorrrrrriiiiinnnnngggg. Where's the talent? Please be more creative when your writing these battles out. At least make the battle interesting enough to want to read. Become the character you've created and fight according to that characters personality and fighting style while trying to be realistic as possible. Also since this is a ninja fight, ninja's aren't really that special without hand signs unless they're using tijutsu. Is there any rules vs that too or are people allowed to just do whatever all "mysteriously"?

Exactly. I completely and totally agree with you. Nowadays, battles have dulled, because now everyone has forgotten that battles are supposed to be for fun, and not a COMPETITION OF POWER AND CUSTOMS. Now, I don't care how many of you will deny that, but how many of you would take, for example, free customs if they were offered to you? Just talk to yourself.
There is no creativity in battles anymore, people seem to throw jutsus at one another, hoping to overpower each other with really no goal in mind but to see who's "better" at doing so. How many of you can seriously answer that they're fighting in the battle arena for fun now? How many of you can honestly say that every time you make a battle thread, that you're not looking forward to defeating someone to add to your reputation? And how many battles have you completed, without a single argument or dissolving in arguments? Just look at the war threads. There's simply no meaning anymore...
Don't even answer these questions. I don't care how you do so. It's more of a personal attack since I am a RPer and a human just like all of you. I don't see why all of you need to gang up on someone who is simply suggesting more taste to the RP world. He's actually suggesting a meaning - a concept, something more meaningful than this dog-eat-dog society.

And to further your argument: This is exactly why all my battles now are story-based. It is still sometimes hard to make it completely creative and RP-style, but I'm trying my best not to argue and actually look forward to replying each and every battle with my own creativity. Thank you to all who has battled in this format with me.

At any rate Klepto, start your own fights and try to pull the level upwards, instead of being a biatch and quitting without trying.
I told you i'm up for RP fights whenever you want, but you seem to miss that, it seems to me that you're just talk.
Seriously, what the hell did you expect?
You even straight out called me a non RP'er, not cool...

You made this thread, now pick up your balls and go make som RP, i'm ready when you are.

I'll even f*cking start some for you...

BTW, you can flame me beat me and insult me (on NB ) but don't ever screw with my RP O_O

I don't mean to flame you, Zero, but seriously...just because you're more of an older member, doesn't mean you can put newer people down with others...

 

[ZK]

Exactly. I completely and totally agree with you. Nowadays, battles have dulled, because now everyone has forgotten that battles are supposed to be for fun, and not a COMPETITION OF POWER AND CUSTOMS. Now, I don't care how many of you will deny that, but how many of you would take, for example, free customs if they were offered to you? Just talk to yourself.
There is no creativity in battles anymore, people seem to throw jutsus at one another, hoping to overpower each other with really no goal in mind but to see who's "better" at doing so. How many of you can seriously answer that they're fighting in the battle arena for fun now? How many of you can honestly say that every time you make a battle thread, that you're not looking forward to defeating someone to add to your reputation? And how many battles have you completed, without a single argument or dissolving in arguments? Just look at the war threads. There's simply no meaning anymore...
Don't even answer these questions. I don't care how you do so. It's more of a personal attack since I am a RPer and a human just like all of you. I don't see why all of you need to gang up on someone who is simply suggesting more taste to the RP world. He's actually suggesting a meaning - a concept, something more meaningful than this dog-eat-dog society.

And to further your argument: This is exactly why all my battles now are story-based. It is still sometimes hard to make it completely creative and RP-style, but I'm trying my best not to argue and actually look forward to replying each and every battle with my own creativity. Thank you to all who has battled in this format with me.



I don't mean to flame you, Zero, but seriously...just because you're more of an older member, doesn't mean you can put newer people down with others...

@ Bolded: Explain that further please O_O

The problem is that he's not suggesting anything, he's not setting a solution up for any of these problems.
The fact is that some people don't want story based battles, they want to spam their OP customs, so let them do it, you're fully within your right to make a story based RP thread, nobody is stopping you. But you'll have to remove the cloth over your eyes, and see that NB isn't really for RP'ing, it's people who wants to show of flashy techniques and shiz like that.
I'm for the RP, but i don't think RP should be the only thing available.
BTW: Please don't look so darkly at NB, it won't do any good.
BTW again: I've seen some of your RP threads, one thing i've noticed is that you seem to make a little bit of your opponents move, adding a bit to his movements or stuff like that.
Honestly, the best RP i've ever seen on NB goes to Jinbei and Keotsu.

 

[Gobi Gobletsson]

For your information this should've been posted in the Questions and Suggestions sub-forum. Just for so you don't make the same mistake in the future.

 

[Adachi]

@ Bolded: Explain that further please O_O

The problem is that he's not suggesting anything, he's not setting a solution up for any of these problems.
The fact is that some people don't want story based battles, they want to spam their OP customs, so let them do it, you're fully within your right to make a story based RP thread, nobody is stopping you. But you'll have to remove the cloth over your eyes, and see that NB isn't really for RP'ing, it's people who wants to show of flashy techniques and shiz like that.
I'm for the RP, but i don't think RP should be the only thing available.
BTW: Please don't look so darkly at NB, it won't do any good.
BTW again: I've seen some of your RP threads, one thing i've noticed is that you seem to make a little bit of your opponents move, adding a bit to his movements or stuff like that.
Honestly, the best RP i've ever seen on NB goes to Jinbei and Keotsu.

Not some people. EVERYONE. And I wouldn't mind, but it causes so many problems, even including friendship. I don't want to go there. Besides, it's meaningless, if you look at it.
I'm looking at NB the same way as I look at the rest of the world. A constant battle for power and reputation. NB is probably worse. People actually used to support one another...where is that now?
I mentioned that story RP wasn't perfect. But I'm sure most people get a kick out of it more than spamming customs and arguing.

And there you go again. Competition. I really don't care...why are you even naming them? Can you even give me an unselfish reason for doing so?

And I'll give you an example for the bolded:

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LMAO! :rofl:

You expect sensei/sempai to come to you for training? Too funny!

It's the other way around, so don't make another thread like this. :|

For God's sake, he's a new member...your tone isn't exactly the most welcoming. I was confused too when I first came to this site - I've posted a thread like that. I'm pretty sure you were no different...then why the hell would you act so arrogant?

Don't be too hard on yourself, if you won't do it nobody will O_O

I don't want this to turn into a flame war, and I don't hate you at all, Zero - most of what I feel towards the society is sorrow and resentment, never hate. But I'm pretty sure there's no need for words for what happened here.

 

[Mugen Ryukyu]

Reading through these battles is kinda boring. There isn't enough talent. They're not that creative. It's boring. Also people keep posting while a battle is suppose to be going on, isn't there rules against that or is it expected that the people show some common since?

I'm more a visual person myself, so I believe the host of the battle should provide a picture of the battle location, something like this.

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And when setting the rules up. Instead of ruling out something that might be a benefit to the opposing player (like long ranged, fire, genjutsu, etc) how about just ruling out what rank the player can or can't be. Like if your a genin and only want to battle vs a genin how about just saying.
Rules: Genin Level Entry with E & D Level moves?

I think it just rips apart a battles excitement when the host purposely picks and chooses styles that best fit his/her fighting styles. When Neji (a close ranged fighter) had to fight vs Kiddoumaru (that spider sound ninja guy) the odds were stacked against him yet he won because he used his weakness to his advantage. Be a bit more creative in that way too. Oh and another thing.

A lot of battles start off like, "Throws a kuni at you but not at you at you just at the side of you to see what your going to do." then the reply goes something like this, "Takes out a kuni and hits the knife away." and then all of a sudden, "The paper bomb that was attached to the kuni blows up." but wait the guy didn't get hit because, "Moves away really fast and runs at you at full speed."

Booooorrrrrriiiiinnnnngggg. Where's the talent? Please be more creative when your writing these battles out. At least make the battle interesting enough to want to read. Become the character you've created and fight according to that characters personality and fighting style while trying to be realistic as possible. Also since this is a ninja fight, ninja's aren't really that special without hand signs unless they're using tijutsu. Is there any rules vs that too or are people allowed to just do whatever all "mysteriously"?

I also completely agree with you.. Me i have never been a long speech type of person or a perfect grammar type and i admit that BUT i still try to make my fights as fun as possible.. back in the old days we just tried to have fun, i remember me and Sasuke Uchiha had candy fight threads where we kicked Jolly ranchers and jawbreakers at each other and it was fun as hell. Now NB is a race for power. And it's become boring i remember a time where people made bios of the characters that they liked not because the character was overpowered or anything. Look at me for example Kakashi has always been my favorite character ask anyone since i joined this site i was always on Kakashi's nuts(no homo) now ppl make bios just for the perks.. it's ridiculous.. And now ppl can't even make a thread or post about something without getting flamed it's ridiculous. Just because a person doesn't put a comma or doesn't think the sun rises outta Sasuke's ass they get attacked relentlessly by flame and insults it's crazy man i swear.. but i'm done

 

[Pineapple]

this is actually turning into a flame war...
ALRIGHT GUYS. Its time for me act like a mod, even though im not, and probably wont be

Please keep this war to PMs and Vms. You can also use Instant messagong, but okease, refaim for posting again.

how'd i do?
(dont post again to answer my question. VM/PM me for your opinion)

 

[Adachi]

It's not a flame war if one person acts rationally... >.> I kind of laughed.

 

[Adachi]

I also completely agree with you.. Me i have never been a long speech type of person or a perfect grammar type and i admit that BUT i still try to make my fights as fun as possible.. back in the old days we just tried to have fun, i remember me and Sasuke Uchiha had candy fight threads where we kicked Jolly ranchers and jawbreakers at each other and it was fun as hell. Now NB is a race for power. And it's become boring i remember a time where people made bios of the characters that they liked not because the character was overpowered or anything. Look at me for example Kakashi has always been my favorite character ask anyone since i joined this site i was always on Kakashi's nuts(no homo) now ppl make bios just for the perks.. it's ridiculous.. And now ppl can't even make a thread or post about something without getting flamed it's ridiculous. Just because a person doesn't put a comma or doesn't think the sun rises outta Sasuke's ass they get attacked relentlessly by flame and insults it's crazy man i swear.. but i'm done

*applauds* Exactly.
My two bios are Shikamaru and Yamato. They are, respectfully, my top two favorite characters of the manga, and has always been. I once made a Byakugan bio intended to try some strategies, but felt guilty, and never used it in a battle, and dropped it for Shikamaru, upon which these two bios should always be my only ones unless I feel like dropping Yamato...reason below. (So is Kabuto, and I did consider making a Kabuto bio before, but he's kind of messed up right now. I might make a pre-Shippuden one though.)
I've used Yamato ever since I joined this website. How long is that? Nearly two years? I had my go with the KG, learning perks and cons from Nero, finally realizing to appreciate it. Now I feel like dropping my lifetime bio because people are abusing Wood for power. A main reason for me to change my username this time because I wanted a break. I want to leave SY as the only sensei to teach Wood so that the KG doesn't get passed on to abusers.

Another thing I forgot to mention.
How many Senseis have learned extra KGs so they could be more "useful" as a Sensei? I actually enjoy teaching Shadow...and perhaps, Wood. Never shall I learn anything more so that I'll be more "useful." I teach KGs for enjoyment...it shouldn't be treated as anything else.

 

[Mugen Ryukyu]

*applauds* Exactly.
My two bios are Shikamaru and Yamato. They are, respectfully, my top two favorite characters of the manga, and has always been. I once made a Byakugan bio intended to try some strategies, but felt guilty, and never used it in a battle, and dropped it for Shikamaru, upon which these two bios should always be my only ones unless I feel like dropping Yamato...reason below. (So is Kabuto, and I did consider making a Kabuto bio before, but he's kind of messed up right now. I might make a pre-Shippuden one though.)
I've used Yamato ever since I joined this website. How long is that? Nearly two years? I had my go with the KG, learning perks and cons from Nero, finally realizing to appreciate it. Now I feel like dropping my lifetime bio because people are abusing Wood for power. A main reason for me to change my username this time because I wanted a break. I want to leave SY as the only sensei to teach Wood so that the KG doesn't get passed on to abusers.

Another thing I forgot to mention.
How many Senseis have learned extra KGs so they could be more "useful" as a Sensei? I actually enjoy teaching Shadow...and perhaps, Wood. Never shall I learn anything more so that I'll be more "useful." I teach KGs for enjoyment...it shouldn't be treated as anything else.

and now i'm also dropping my two bios that i had since i first joined this site.. My kakashi and First Hokage my two favorite characters.. I'm dropping them for the reasons that Akihiko stated above. Sharigan is being abused and so is Mokuton(wood). & its sad because i had so much fun rping with Kakashi and the 1st because i loved acting like Kakashi i mean come on *Looks at you and slams my book close* Looks like i'll be needing this *lifts up my headband revealing my shringan* FUN!! Also being the 1st was fun as hell too. *Takes off my Hokage attire revealing my armor and headband* Lets Go! *does a handseal then jumps in the air doing a backflip landing on a moving wood pillar and starts moving towards u at high speed* Fun! If i was to do that in a battle nowadays i'd get Amaterasu"d or hit with forbidden custom jutsu before i landed on the pillar -_- thats ridiculous.

 

[Yüme1]

Did I hear candy fight's?

haha, good times...

 

[Klepto]

Akihiko I respect you.

On topic. Leeroy you seem to have a reputation as an as_ hole, downin' new members. Not trying to offend you but honestly, history speaks for its self. As a senior member shouldn't you be more so focused on building up NB instead of tearing it down? I'm sure * Rei * is a senior member as well right? * Rei * is the one who came up with the "basic" rules of RPing in NB. Why if I bring those rules to everyone's attention you wanna focus your anger towards me? I for one think that the rules should be fallowed because they were created and put in place with good intentions; which are to make RPing fun, not lame and dull like what I've read in so many battles.

And no I'm not saying everyone sucks at RPing, however what I am saying is that if people actually knew how to RP the battles would be a lot better. As a senior member Leeroy, shouldn't you be helping people to RP better and enforcing the rules instead of rebelling against them and putting people down? Why should a "new member" have to bring this to everyone's attention when it should be a senior member? It's more than obvious now that I'm not the only one who feels this way about the pointless battles here on NB.

Furthering my point, I read the battles that go on and I found in one a senior member, Scary Yamato who says,

"Pop, I have to say that you are doing a lot better than you used to. ^_^ Make sure that you keep on explaining how you are using your moves and keep on sparring. With each fight you will get a little better as long as you write out every move that you perform.

good luck guys. Have fun"

Did you notice how Yamato is actually encouraging RP within the format mapped out by * Rei * in the rules? I did. Though Yamato interrupted the spar by posting it was totally worth it and understandable. He was excited to see that someone he tough how to RP was starting to achieve his realization.

Leeroy it's not just me who wants RP Battling to be fun, I'm sure there are many others besides the ones who spoke out in my defense. Because Sacry Yamato didn't say anything in this thread but he sure gets excited to see someone RPing right. And Pop is striving to RP right, in turn aiding to make RP Battling fun again, not only to take part in but also to read.

Akihiko, once I can battle dude I'll battle you any time. I RP and I'm pretty good at it too. I may be new to NB but I'm no where near new to RPing. Gobi thanks for the heads up. McA, who was first to reply to this thread should've been wise enough to give me at least that much information.

 

[Mockingbird]

I'm not mad at all. I just get annoying when people cop an attitude for silly reasons. At no point did I give him a reason to do so. I could understand why, that if in my first post I deliberately picked him out to pound on him about his battles. But I didn't do that. Therefore there isn't any reason for him to get upset over silly little things unless of course he feels as though his battles were written poorly; seeing as how this is what the topic is all'a 'bout. So if he wants to "help", there's a better way of going about it. I'm sure you'd agree.

Sides, I didn't know I was able to move this thread elsewhere. I always believed it was done by the NB Staff. However seeing as how I can apparently move this thread, how?

i swear this guys from new york.

and about what your saying...

yeah yeah blah blah, we've all heard this before, things on the base have been moving slowly lately, but there are alot of talented RPers on the base. noone is going to listen to you with this level of experience under your belt.

 

[Adachi]

i swear this guys from new york.

and about what your saying...

yeah yeah blah blah, we've all heard this before, things on the base have been moving slowly lately, but there are alot of talented RPers on the base. noone is going to listen to you with this level of experience under your belt.

This doesn't exactly help the cause at all. >.>

 

[Mugen Ryukyu]

i swear this guys from new york.

and about what your saying...

yeah yeah blah blah, we've all heard this before, things on the base have been moving slowly lately, but there are alot of talented RPers on the base. noone is going to listen to you with this level of experience under your belt.

Tell me whats your definition of a Talented rper?(i'm not flaming i'm just asking a question) and does it truly matter about how much experience someone needs just to post their opinions?

 

[Black Butler]

I agree with Ruiz

 

[Adachi]

Honestly, is there any sense of fulfillment or meaning in what you do anymore?

 

[Mockingbird]

This doesn't exactly help the cause at all. >.>

xd i know, i edited.

Tell me whats your definition of a Talented rper?(i'm not flaming i'm just asking a question) and does it truly matter about how much experience someone needs just to post their opinions?

Basically, all it takes is common sense, and knowing how to turn a situation in your favor.

and well, your not going to go around, pawning everybody as a genin, now are you? you should have some experience in the field before you go out and say, these people have no talent.

and its ok, your not flaming

 

[Adachi]

On topic. Leeroy you seem to have a reputation as an as_ hole, downin' new members. Not trying to offend you but honestly, history speaks for its self. As a senior member shouldn't you be more so focused on building up NB instead of tearing it down?

Ouch. As much as I respect you for saying this out loud, sometimes flaming doesn't solve anything at all. >.> But good point with the question.

It's more than obvious now that I'm not the only one who feels this way about the pointless battles here on NB.

Exactly.

Did you notice how Yamato is actually encouraging RP within the format mapped out by * Rei * in the rules? I did. Though Yamato interrupted the spar by posting it was totally worth it and understandable. He was excited to see that someone he tough how to RP was starting to achieve his realization.

I honestly really respect SY. He's neutrally nice to everyone...it's amazing. You're right for creditig

Akihiko, once I can battle dude I'll battle you any time. I RP and I'm pretty good at it too. I may be new to NB but I'm no where near new to RPing. Gobi thanks for the heads up. McA, who was first to reply to this thread should've been wise enough to give me at least that much information.

I'll look forward to see your definition of RPing, then.