Norway killer admits massacre, claims self-defense?

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Meh, 67 is too close to nothing when compared to tens of thousands, It's a dark world bro where you're taught what and what not to care about.
.."where you're taught what and what not to care about" I still wouldn't lose my humanity, trust me. All lives are important..doesn't matter how small and insignificant they seem to others.​
 
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sk8er, my respect for you has sky-rocketed. I'd give you a hug if I ever met you in real life :)

And I'm glad no-one here is saying "those Muslims deserved it, etc". It really shows that not everyone, despite their differences in opinion + religion, is a raging psychopath like said killer. This world is too corrupt but discussions like these gives me that little glimmer of hope. With a little understanding, we can create a better world ~

...Except for Kurapika's statement. I'll get to that now.

You want seriousness? Who gives a fuck if he killed 67 innocent people? The Norwegian army is still killing innocent people in Afghanistan while you guys are discussing this matter, Heck the Norwegian air force took part in bombing my own country, Libya. and i personally knew a number of people of whom died during the bombardment of Tripoli and Sert... The media is just directing people's attention towards this mass killer when it helped create him when it was gathering support for their and the US's government's wars.
Whether it's one life or a hundred, it means something. You're going very far to say something like that [bolded]. Honestly, don't you think the families of those murdered would be absolutely devastated? Not only would they suffer trauma, but most, if not all, of them would be living in fear for the rest of their lives now; how can they walk down the street again without the thought of some lunatic running towards them with a Glock 17 in hand? And all because they're Muslim.

Islam's image has become distorted due to maniacal extremists. Believe me, I absolutely DESPISE extremists. I'm 1000% anti-AlQaeda; 2000% anti-Taliban. And yes, if you haven't figured it out, I'm Muslim. Why? Because they're not Muslims at all :| First of all, Taliban follows a different sect of Islam [refer to/research Wahabism] which conflicts with the original teachings. Mind you, Islam is not even supposed to be divided into sects/groups. I could go on and on all day about how terrorism and extremism conflicts with teachings of Islam, but unfortunately, even Wall-of-Text has a limit. But, if any of you are interested/want to discuss more, by all means PM me. Please don't carry it on here as it's not the subject (don't give me that look xD).

On the other hand, I do see your point; why is their so much focus of that specific spree when hundreds die everyday in Afghanistan and Iraq? To be honest, I'm not sure anyone can give you a proper answer. I partly blame the media and government for keeping these things swept under the rug. One could also blame certain (not all; it's not fair to blame all) soldiers who, despite risking their lives, get VERY carried away sometimes; the killing spree in Afghanistan not too long ago, some soldiers urinating on corpses, etc.

It's not really my place to say. This world and it's violence will never end; like Pain from NARUTO says: Human instinct seeks conflict. Best thing to do (or I've decided for me) is just make the best out of my life, be a good person, live happily, abide by the Laws (both public and religious) and... well, prepare for Death, if you know what I mean.

And Kurapika, I mean no offense in any of my statements above; if it sounded like I was angry or rude, I apologize. I wrote all of this with a calm mind. A sensible debate, it was. Take care <3
 
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He made it to 67 people? Most single person shootings only get a few people before they themselves get shot by police. This guy must be a really good shot. People like him should get sent to active warzones with 1 gun and a few extra clips and dropped off deep behind enemy lines alone and be made to fight for judgment rather than put through a corrupt justice system.
 

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Since each and every single life is important, why don't we ever see the media making a hassle over over all the tens of thousands of singles lives which get killed on a daily bases, as a matter of fact this guy probably wouldn't of had such a ****ed up mind if it wasn't for the media advertising for the wars that collect so many casualties.
I'm not saying that these 67 people aren't important, i'm just saying that the guys making such a fuzz about them are the same whom help kill tens of thousands of others, so maybe we should focus on the source of the problem instead :)
 

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Since each and every single life is important, why don't we ever see the media making a hassle over over all the tens of thousands of singles lives which get killed on a daily bases, as a matter of fact this guy probably wouldn't of had such a ****ed up mind if it wasn't for the media advertising for the wars that collect so many casualties.
I'm not saying that these 67 people aren't important, i'm just saying that the guys making such a fuzz about them are the same whom help kill tens of thousands of others, so maybe we should focus on the source of the problem instead :)
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Since each and every single life is important, why don't we ever see the media making a hassle over over all the tens of thousands of singles lives which get killed on a daily bases, as a matter of fact this guy probably wouldn't of had such a ****ed up mind if it wasn't for the media advertising for the wars that collect so many casualties.
I'm not saying that these 67 people aren't important, i'm just saying that the guys making such a fuzz about them are the same whom help kill tens of thousands of others, so maybe we should focus on the source of the problem instead :)

To me it is, I don't know about the media and I don't have 8.5 billion eyes to watch every human on earth, if I would of known more about that subject. I would of talked about it. Does it really offend you that much or something?
And the bold..but you did, you said you didn't give a F*ck.
and don't be so sure, if you believe the media does this to people, it only give them more excuses to blame others for their actions. What this man did was his choice. No one is to blame..or else everyone should be just like him since we all watch the same stuff.

Just saying, chill man..Idk your suffering over there but what can be done? Honestly, if I could. I would end wars and bring peace but there has to be more than one person. I alone can only wish but not do much. This was a subject I saw as I looked into the news and wanted to talk about .-. like I said, if you wish to talk about what you had said earlier. Make a threat then we can openly discuss it. I wont mind giving educated opinions about the subject if you provide the source of info as I did with this thread.​
 

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okay i belive this man should be serverly punished for his sins obvsly but a couple of yrs in prison wtfs dat gona do they should let the victims parent decide me personlly i would throw him in a pit full of lions noo crocodiles u know what which ever his more painfull and lasting lol
 

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Since each and every single life is important, why don't we ever see the media making a hassle over over all the tens of thousands of singles lives which get killed on a daily bases, as a matter of fact this guy probably wouldn't of had such a ****ed up mind if it wasn't for the media advertising for the wars that collect so many casualties.
I'm not saying that these 67 people aren't important, i'm just saying that the guys making such a fuzz about them are the same whom help kill tens of thousands of others, so maybe we should focus on the source of the problem instead :)
Every life is important, yes, but some are more important. E.g. If I had the choice of killing one friend, or two random criminal, then those two are gonna get brained. And, again, if I had to kill someone to save myself, I would. I might feel a bit guilty after, but not for long.
And, maybe before spouting rubbish, you could name 'the source of the problem', and if you say the media, then you're closed minded. The media saves more people than it kills, it might kill a few people, but so does religion, and more people follow that. And, war collects casualties that obvious, i'm not a soldier - nor are any of my family- but if I was, then I wouldn't complain if I died. Not that I could, cause I'd be dead.
 
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Every life is important, yes, but some are more important. E.g. If I had the choice of killing one friend, or two random criminal, then those two are gonna get brained. And, again, if I had to kill someone to save myself, I would. I might feel a bit guilty after, but not for long.
And, maybe before spouting rubbish, you could name 'the source of the problem', and if you say the media, then you're closed minded. The media saves more people than it kills, it might kill a few people, but so does religion, and more people follow that. And, war collects casualties that obvious, i'm not a soldier - nor are any of my family- but if I was, then I wouldn't complain if I died. Not that I could, cause I'd be dead.
The media is no source, It's a tool.
@the rest: :lmao:
 
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