Non-Edo Madara > Muu & Oonoki... WITHOUT Susano'o... WTF?!?

[Blaze Release]

LOOK AT THE BOLD

Maybe you need to step back too before you type too LOL. Your first post says it was only Oonoki but obviously Muu is LAYING ON THE GROUND ON HIS @$$ NEXT TO HIM.

Yes, lets assume he defeated them both. They are both sitting on their @$$ together on the ground. Ooonoki says that he lost this fight, and that Madara even went "easy" on him. You dont want to give two shinobi that became Kage the assumption of their powers but we give the assumption to Madara...? Plus the fact that he beat them BOTH AND WENT "EASY" ON THEM?!? We dont know what all powers they truly had at that time true, but we do know what Madara DIDNT have. As far as I know, I do believe that shinobi with Kekkei Genkei are BORN with it, am i not correct???

May I also note that Muu (at his current state with ALL his jutsu) still looked shocked and somewhat in awe when Madara was brought back to life. Almost like he was scared of him. I just dont understand how this is to be true at his current strength, for him to see ALL the Kage revived but only have that reaction to Madara's Edo.

-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage

Ow boy this guy just took his gloves off against me. I can however see why you'd believe he defeated both, but at the same time in that same page it again only speaks of onoki. Btw onoki said he went easy on me and nothing more.

Shot yourself in the foot with the highlighted part. Dust release is a form of kg called kekkei tota which you arent born with but you learn how to use it. Believe it was mu who thought onoki the secrets of the technique and how to use it.

Madara has gotten stupid hype. Mu admiring him doesnt say much. Tobi had the rennigan and everything he possesses currently and yet he was bribed into a partnership with kabuto due to madara and madara can be strong but no i dont see ems madara beating current tobi.

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

Ow boy this guy just took his gloves off against me. I can however see why you'd believe he defeated both, but at the same time in that same page it again only speaks of onoki. Btw onoki said he went easy on me and nothing more.

Shot yourself in the foot with the highlighted part. Dust release is a form of kg called kekkei tota which you arent born with but you learn how to use it. Believe it was mu who thought onoki the secrets of the technique and how to use it.

Madara has gotten stupid hype. Mu admiring him doesnt say much. Tobi had the rennigan and everything he possesses currently and yet he was bribed into a partnership with kabuto due to madara and madara can be strong but no i dont see ems madara beating current tobi.

On mangstream it is translated as "we" not "me" and it shows Muu sitting next to Oonoki. So it could be a translation error on the "me" since it clearly shows two people when he says that quote.

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Muu admiring him does say a lot. He is one of the strongest Kage to live. Tobi didn't have Rinnegan when he saw Madara and he was intimidated into the partnership. Yes, the Rinnegan increases Tobi's strength but Madara has it as well. I think that Madara would win in a fight right now.

 

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MadaraHashirama POST:

Lol what the hell is a Non-Edo Madara supposed to be? Isn't that just Madara?


My RESPONSE: LOL. Yes. I'm sorry, but that is for the Nubbs that would have thought I was referring to "current" Edo Madara by just saying "Madara". But I wanted to emphasize the fact that he was not immortal at the time, hence the "non edo" foolishness. lol
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Retsu's POST:


it's obvious that muu's invisibility doesn't work on Madara's EMS sharingan, maybe even the sharingan in general, and without invisibility, muu's just a weaker oonoki


My RESPONSE: Uh... WHY is it "obvious" to you that Muu's invisibility doesnt work on EMS? What the hell is so special about EMS that gives him this ability that we have seen so far? Muu had the ability to go invisible AND completely mask his chakra. I'd reacted better if you would have said he didn't have the ability to go invisible at that time LOL not that and EMS could see it, no manga reference even remotely imply's this. And I wanna slap you for calling Muu a WEAKER Oonoki, I dont care if he had invisibility or not!!! lol
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Bogard's POST:


Nothing shows he defeated them both. Onoki was always talking as if he fought Madara alone. Also, don't forget how old he was. He was about 10 or a little bit more. It would have be funny if Madara wasn't able to beat a child who only has 10years old



My RESPONSE: Hahahaha. Please prove to me that he was only freakin' 10 years old fighting madara. Forget losing, he'd be DEAD. Ooonoki is old as fart man, he definetally was older at that moment. If you feel differently, please prove it via Manga reference.

And again, Muu was right next to him sitting on his @$$. Please tell me how this doesn't show Muu also fighting. So you mean that Muu let 10 year old Oonoki to fight an EMS Uchiha Madara?!!? GTFO

Ow boy this guy just took his gloves off against me. I can however see why you'd believe he defeated both, but at the same time in that same page it again only speaks of onoki. Btw onoki said he went easy on me and nothing more.

Shot yourself in the foot with the highlighted part. Dust release is a form of kg called kekkei tota which you arent born with but you learn how to use it. Believe it was mu who thought onoki the secrets of the technique and how to use it.

Madara has gotten stupid hype. Mu admiring him doesnt say much. Tobi had the rennigan and everything he possesses currently and yet he was bribed into a partnership with kabuto due to madara and madara can be strong but no i dont see ems madara beating current tobi.

1) If Madara went "easy" on Oonoki, do you honestly think that Muu his mentor just sat there and watch him get his @$$ handed to him against an EMS Uchiha...? HELL NO. Thats why Muu was shown on his @$$ too, cause he tried to help and got his tail spanked LOL.

2) Ok, you got me on the Kekkei Tota. I honestly asked a question when I said they were born with it--I only know that shinobi with Kekkei Genkei are born with it, so I also assumed the latter. Sorry

3) I also agreed with the second part except for the fact that Tobi can beat Madara Edo? Do you honestly believe this, with Perfect Susano'o, Rinnegan and Hashi's cells??? I honestly think Tobi is about to get his @$$ handed to him by a teenager LOL. We will see I guess.....







-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage

 

[-Vegeta-]

Oonoki only implied Madara didn't use his perfect susanoo, not that he didn't use susanoo considering after witnessing Madara's perfect susanoo he asks why he went easy on them, whereas before he never stated as such when fighting Madara's incomplete susanoo.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Oonoki only implied Madara didn't use his perfect susanoo, not that he didn't use susanoo considering after witnessing Madara's perfect susanoo he asks why he went easy on them, whereas before he never stated as such when fighting Madara's incomplete susanoo.

True, good point. Maybe Oonoki was only referring to "perfect" susano'o and not Susano'o in general. I can accept that.







-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage

 

[obscoral]

Thats just not good enough. I know he is a powerful foe. But Oonoki has been literally able to withstand the might of Edo Madara WITH Hashi's cells almost by himself. He has saved everyone's @$$ on multiple occations and with Muu by his side, they should have been damn near unstoppable. Atleast not SOLO'd by Madara who hardly looks touched in the flashback. EMS abilities have yet to be shown so we can't simply blame it on the EMS, so far it just shows the ability to Spam MS. Edo Madara has yet to kill a 100 year old Ooonoki but he beat both Tsuchikage's in their prime? WTF man. Too much for me to believe.





-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage

one "tiny" thingie, my friend - during war arc, oonoki is covered with huge plot shield
during flashback, oonoki is not

do u get it?

 

[Prime Rib]

madara still wins easy, butyeah MUu is awesome

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

one "tiny" thingie, my friend - during war arc, oonoki is covered with huge plot shield
during flashback, oonoki is not

do u get it?

You said....... Oonoki is covered

You said.... Ooonoki is not



SO NO I DONT GET IT. WTF LOL





-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage

 

[obscoral]

You said....... Oonoki is covered

You said.... Ooonoki is not

SO NO I DONT GET IT. WTF LOL

:sy: i said - during war arc oonoki is covered with huge plot shield

but back in time, when oonoki was younger, he was not [covered with plot shield] so he was fuqed up

 

[Djokovic]

Naruto is heading in the same direction as Bleach. just way too many holes in Kishis book.

 

[kellzfresh]

Lol, when oonoki said madara went easy on them, he meant that madara used incomplete susano and not the perfect susanoo. He never meant that madara didn't use susanoo at all xd
EMS madara will get owned without susanoo.

 

[MrLukyso]

Madara > Onooki & Muu with EMS Med diff, if he was toying and messing around maybe even Low diff, Onooki told "us" not "me" so he meant both of them.

 

[arv993]

People have to take a step back then type.
Lets assume that he defeated both. We have no idea whether at that time onoki or mu even were as strong as they are now. No where does it state that mu or onoki both had jinton at that time for madara to defeat both without susano especially after what we have seen of jinton and what it can do to susano, let alone somebody without the protection of it

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the picture and what oonoki says disagrees with you. muu is not a kid so he is strong and very likely had most of his abilities and madara probably did use his regular sussano and ppl forget that he has other ms abilities which probably allowed him to defeat them he doesnt necessarily need perfect sussano.

 

[Elio]

He couldn't go all out for FEAR he would start a war with Konoha. Believe it. EMS is still superior to him though.

This is what I believe.

 

[cohaco]

in the fight madara used susano'o but just he didn't use the perfect susano'o

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

in the fight madara used susano'o but just he didn't use the perfect susano'o

Hmmm . HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS. You speak so sure lol. Oonoki never said this. I can see where your assumption could come from though.







-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage