Non-dojutsu Sasuke and non-jinchuriki Naruto

[Wparker6804]

Low chakra pool without the kyuubi so no huge rasengans no rasenshurikens no clones. He's fodder without his infinite chakra demon U_U

It's been stated in the Manga that Naruto has high chakra levels by himself. He's part Senju, part Uzumaki, and Asura's descendant who unlocks massive chakra after training and hard work (which Naruto did). Hell while he was practicing the Rasenshuriken he was using dozens of clones constantly while the Kyuubi was being compressed using Hashirama's chakra & DNA

 

[Cooh]

It's been stated in the Manga that Naruto has high chakra levels by himself. He's part Senju, part Uzumaki, and Asura's descendant who unlocks massive chakra after training and hard work (which Naruto did). Hell while he was practicing the Rasenshuriken he was using dozens of clones constantly while the Kyuubi was being compressed using Hashirama's chakra & DNA

You should reread the manga, you have no clue what so ever

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Naruto would obviously be stronger, OP asking basic questions that has an obvious answer just to get a hot thread. Just because you have Naruto and Sasuke in the title does not mean a hot thread the fact that this is on page two is actually pretty sad :kk:.

 

[Wparker6804]

You should reread the manga, you have no clue what so ever

Well if you disagree with his own chakra levels it's stated in the wiki as "As an Uzumaki and a reincarnation of Asura Ōtsutsuki,[61] Naruto has massive reserves of strong chakra, estimated as at least four times greater than Kakashi's and described by Karin as "bright and warm.""

His great grandfather was Hashirama Senju (hence part Senju) while his great grandmother was an Uzumaki, while his mother herself came from the Uzumaki clan (hence her red hair and the fact that his last name is Uzumaki)

And if you disagree with Naruto being Asura's reincarnation & what that provides than you definitely know nothing at all about the ending of Naruto

What in my statement was wrong (prove with manga facts that Naruto has low levels of chakra without Kurama. Less, sure but not low)

 

[Cooh]

Well if you disagree with his own chakra levels it's stated in the wiki as "As an Uzumaki and a reincarnation of Asura Ōtsutsuki,[61] Naruto has massive reserves of strong chakra, estimated as at least four times greater than Kakashi's and described by Karin as "bright and warm.""

His great grandfather was Hashirama Senju (hence part Senju) while his great grandmother was an Uzumaki, while his mother herself came from the Uzumaki clan (hence her red hair and the fact that his last name is Uzumaki)

And if you disagree with Naruto being Asura's reincarnation & what that provides than you definitely know nothing at all about the ending of Naruto

What in my statement was wrong (prove with manga facts that Naruto has low levels of chakra without Kurama. Less, sure but not low)

Everything you post is completely wrong, it's stated in the manga that naruto is only strong with support of others, so if theres no one too hold his hand he's genin level U_U #mangafacts

 

[davidou]

You should reread the manga, you have no clue what so ever

Senpou Cho Oodama rasen tarengan is genin level, lol.

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Naruto can do that without Kurama, now say again that he is Iruka level, .

 

[Nilla]

Sasuke is weak without the sharingan. But Sasuke's strength and Kyubi were Naruto's motivations from the beginning so when you erase both of them Naruto would be weak as well

 

[Cooh]

Cho Oodama rasen tarengan is genin level, lol.

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Naruto can do that without Kurama, now say again that he is Iruka level, .

Still drawing chakra from the kyuubi in that picture. Fail response. You guys should stop fapping naruto so hard and accept that he's fodder without the kyuubi U_U

 

[davidou]

Still drawing chakra from the kyuubi in that picture. Fail response. You guys should stop fapping naruto so hard and accept that he's fodder without the kyuubi U_U

No he isn't, Kurama gave him chakra to beat his ennemies before Naruto beat him and gained free access to his chakra.
So during this fight Naruto used his own chakra because Kurama didn't give him chakra in that fight.

 

[Cooh]

No he isn't, Kurama gave him chakra to beat his ennemies before Naruto beat him and gained free access to his chakra.
So during this fight Naruto used his own chakra because Kurama didn't give him chakra in that fight.

That's wrong. Reread the manga please

 

[Wparker6804]

That's wrong. Reread the manga please

You're the guy using NO source facts, manga pages or wiki quotes--just the way you want it to be. It has been stated that Naruto by himself has powerful chakra.

 

[Char Aznable]

Sasuke.

"High Jounin at best" Rofl. SM doesn't close the gap; you all seem to forget that Sasuke's speed, strength etc. are solely from his body, and not from chakra modes - he was easily going toe to toe with RSBM Naruto and Juubidara with those physical capabilities, so there's no way SM can even keep up.

Doesn't he attribute his fast growth to the curse mark Oro gave him, the pills the Sound 4 gave him to enhance the curse mark (which also boosted his base stats), and all the medicines and forbidden jutsus Sasuke used to get stronger over the 3 year period? Everything Sasuke did was to reach his brother's level as fast as he could. Itachi and Naruto took no such shortcuts.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

Sasuke.

"High Jounin at best" Rofl. SM doesn't close the gap; you all seem to forget that Sasuke's speed, strength etc. are solely from his body, and not from chakra modes - he was easily going toe to toe with RSBM Naruto and Juubidara with those physical capabilities, so there's no way SM can even keep up.

Sasuke without doujutsu still has Katon, Raiton, Kenjutsu, Bukijutsu, blitzy foot speed and Kage Bunshins himself. Ma and Pa fusion? Never actually happened. Naruto has more power, but Sasuke's got the benefit of his physical abilities being sourced from his own base body, and his skills are much more refined.

This, also Sasuke has aerial advantage due to rinne hawk and can still cast Kirin.

Let's not forget he can use chidori spear and Nagashi which makes cqc mid range battle useless and his Dragon fire jutsu can be spammed and it should beat FRS if elemental advantage is still a thing.

He can also use deidara tactics and keep a distance with rinne hawk, blast with Katon while preparing Kirin.

 

[Jokule67]

Sasuke by far naruto would be genin level without the help of the kyuubi

This is a stupid comment but whatever floats ur boat man.

In my opinion is not fair for Sasuke to lose doujutsu because literally all his power comes from it while Naruto uses power from 4 diff sources. Kyuubi, Sage Mode, and Himself(large reserves,powerful chakra), and Six Paths.

Without Kyuubi Naruto is above Sasuke but like I said its hardly fair.

 

[Jokule67]

Still drawing chakra from the kyuubi in that picture. Fail response. You guys should stop fapping naruto so hard and accept that he's fodder without the kyuubi U_U

Naruto owes some of his chakra pool to Kyuubi but not all. He is still a chakra monster because he is Uzumaki and Asura transmigrant. And you forget that Sasuke is without Sharingan. Without it he is basically nothing to be honest.

SM Naruto is leagues above Sasuke with no Sharingan. Its not fair at all.

 

[Cooh]

Naruto owes some of his chakra pool to Kyuubi but not all. He is still a chakra monster because he is Uzumaki and Asura transmigrant. And you forget that Sasuke is without Sharingan. Without it he is basically nothing to be honest.

SM Naruto is leagues above Sasuke with no Sharingan. Its not fair at all.

Double post and reread the manga.

 

[Jokule67]

You should reread the manga, you have no clue what so ever

Naruto uses his own power. The seal was designed to leak and naturally mix with Narutos chakra, however this influences Naruto and makes him feral and savage with the potential of releasing tails.

Minato designed the seal to weaken so their chakras can mix.

Before haku bridge incident the seal was perfectly in tact. Naruto has massive reserves on his own.

 

[King Of Pop]

yeah because taking sasukes sharingan altogether and allowing naruto keep sage mode is so fair. Sm naruto wins anyway. give sasuke his MS at least (which would be his limit without any external source) and he can take him

 

[Wparker6804]

Double post and reread the manga.

If we have to reread the manga then show us a manga scan to prove it, pal.

 

[chaos control]

Low chakra pool without the kyuubi so no huge rasengans no rasenshurikens no clones. He's fodder without his infinite chakra demon U_U

What makes you think his chakara would be low without Kurama? Even without Kurama , he is still an Uzumaki and Asura's transmigrant. Kakashi even stated that Naruto's chakara without Kurama's influence is 4 times greater than his own.

Face it , Naruto's chakara would still be much greater than most people even without Kurama. Plus , SM doesn't actually require super massive reservoirs. Minato and Jiraiya had it and they weren't even from any Otsutsuki related clans. What makes you think that Naruto , who actually is half Uzumaki , would have weaker reserves than them?