[Theory] Noah, Mermaids and Prophecies (Spoilers)

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I have a theory about Noah. I've been re-reading the Manga all over again, and I'm finally reaching the last arc. We've been especulating about Noah's purpose, and I think I've found out.



This is set on Jinbei's flashback, telling us the story of Queen Otohime and Tiger. Otohime, as we all know, is trying to unite the Fishpeople and Merkfolk with the Humans. 200 years ago from that time-line, the Kings finnaly made the Ryuuguu Kingdom official, and this year they gainined a spot in the World Reverie. Otohime wishes to confront the remaining Kings and tell them of their intentions to migrate to the surface.

And from that idea, King Neptune mentioned that their ancestors have tried that before, and failed, hundreds of years ago, and we were showed a picture of Noah, the ark. Now, could it be that they built Noah to migrate to the surface? If that's so, what happened? I'm inclined to say that there were two perspectives at that time. Those who wanted to unite with the humans, and those who didn't. Civil war broke out, and the Ark was forgotten, and locked away on the place now know as the Fishman District.

Yet something isn't quite right. Because in Fishman Island, there is a mysterious rock. Yes, Fishman Island possesses a Phoneglyph, which immediatelly ties them. Which is to say that the ancient Fishpeople and Merkfolk were part of the ancient civilization that disappeared in the Void century. When war broke out, between the lost civilaztion and the future World Government, they had no other choice but to flee to bottom of the ocean. I believe the ancient civilization was composed of not only humans, but all sorts of species, and it was prejucide, maybe, or probably, mixed with some even bigger problems, that create that big war that ultimately lead to their demise. Because of that, all the other especies were banished to the deeps of the world.

Neptune spoke of the Ark as waiting for "The Day that Most Come"



Which I personally take as the day where the world will once again ackowledge them, and they'll get to live once again above the surface of the earth. But I'd have expected that the Phonglyph would reveal that story. Instead, the phoneglyph is an apology letter.



It may be that the ancient fishmen fled from the battle zone, deserted the battle and hid themselves on the ocean. It would fit with the later hate and descrimination that sank in the human's hearts, yet I something else came to my mind. And that is the story of the "Legendary Mermaid".





Every century, a Mermaid would be born that could share her feelings with even the mighty Sea Kings. Van Der Decken, the original one, set to the seas to capture such legendary mermaid. But there's something else about that story. Otohime said that along with the Legendary mermaid, a man would come, and guide her. What if that prophecy is linked with the apology letter on the phoneglyph, and also with Noah and the "Day that Most Come". What if, the fishpeople were not part of the civilization, but were instead allies, linked between the love of the "Joy Boy", a member of the ancient civilization, and the original "Legendary Mermaid"? Joy Boy would be unable to come and guide that mermaid, but war broke out. Maybe she died, maybe she was simply lost.

The fishman-kind had to flee to the ocean floor, and with them they brought the Phoneglyph, which was an apology from the original Guide, that failed to the mermaid. So the fishpeople hid themselves from the world, waiting for another "legendary mermaid" and her guide, on "the day that most come", where together they would once again free the fishpeople and merkfolk, and have them live under the sun, above the surface.

It sounds confusing, yet it's a nice story, no?
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Really looking forward to the the phoneglyph story and the Void Century. I love how little info we're getting on something that big. Oda can really turn this into an huge plot twist. I have no idea at this point how the ancient weapons, the arc and the legendary mermaid will play a role in the current storyline, absolutely unpredictable. Amazing! but I like your theory, I hope we get some answers soon (but not too much). Oda needs to save some for the coming 10 years.
 

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Really looking forward to the the phoneglyph story and the Void Century. I love how little info we're getting on something that big. Oda can really turn this into an huge plot twist. I have no idea at this point how the ancient weapons, the arc and the legendary mermaid will play a role in the current storyline, absolutely unpredictable. Amazing! but I like your theory, I hope we get some answers soon (but not too much). Oda needs to save some for the coming 10 years.
Well, maybe he'll give us part of the Fishman Story, without revealing much about the whole picture.
 

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Well, maybe he'll give us part of the Fishman Story, without revealing much about the whole picture.
Probably, after the Arlong arc and now the Fishman Island arc I don't think we're going to have another Fishman arc. So I think the story of the legendary mermaid and maybe the Poseidon weapon and of course the Ark will be reveiled.

Speaking of Arlong. Since the first time we've seen Hody's shade I was waiting for Arlong to appear in this arc.
 

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If "Joy Boy" Aint Luffy then I don't know who is. U_U
The "Joy Boy" Poneglyph was different from the normal ones because it was more like an apology from Joy Boy so Luffy couldn't have made it and it wasn't directed to Luffy either. If there is anything related to Luffy then it has something to do with Gold Roger's reincarnation. But I doubt Oda is really going to turn Luffy into the next Gold Roger.
 

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I think he meant that Luffy, following my theory, would be the guide for Shirahoshi, thus he would be what "Joy Boy" was or was suppose to be to this century's legendary mermaid.

I sort of agree, Luffy does fit the prophecy Otohime was talking about.
 

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The "Joy Boy" Poneglyph was different from the normal ones because it was more like an apology from Joy Boy so Luffy couldn't have made it and it wasn't directed to Luffy either. If there is anything related to Luffy then it has something to do with Gold Roger's reincarnation. But I doubt Oda is really going to turn Luffy into the next Gold Roger.
I think he meant that Luffy, following my theory, would be the guide for Shirahoshi, thus he would be what "Joy Boy" was or was suppose to be to this century's legendary mermaid.

I sort of agree, Luffy does fit the prophecy Otohime was talking about.
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Once it was said that the arc wasn't to be touched until "that day," I thought it meant the day that the fish people finally emerge above the ocean and become one with the human's. I do like your analysis on the poneglyph though. It slipped my mind that in order to have a poneglyph they at one point in their history had to have been apart of the main world/grand line. And this "guide" that the letter is talking about, would most likely be Luffy. Maybe the vision of him "destroying" Fishman Island is actually foreshadowing the death of the old Fishman Island, and the beginning of a new island above the sea
 
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Nice analysis lili-chwan, i agree that luffy is probably the guide but i was thinking like wolfwood that the destruction of fishman island was probably caused because of him but not by him and that he will be making them move to a new fishman island rather than simply going nuts on everyone
 

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Once it was said that the arc wasn't to be touched until "that day," I thought it meant the day that the fish people finally emerge above the ocean and become one with the human's. I do like your analysis on the poneglyph though. It slipped my mind that in order to have a poneglyph they at one point in their history had to have been apart of the main world/grand line. And this "guide" that the letter is talking about, would most likely be Luffy. Maybe the vision of him "destroying" Fishman Island is actually foreshadowing the death of the old Fishman Island, and the beginning of a new island above the sea
Well yes, the guide would join the legendary mermaid and guide the fishpeople to the surface. Thus Luffy would guide Shirahoshi and bring them to the surface. And yes I agree, destroy fishman island doesn't necessarily mean destroy the civilization of the fishmankind, but ratter destroy what it used to be and bring forth and new era.

Nice analysis lili-chwan, i agree that luffy is probably the guide but i was thinking like wolfwood that the destruction of fishman island was probably caused because of him but not by him and that he will be making them move to a new fishman island rather than simply going nuts on everyone
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:hey:

yeah.....luffy has something to do with NOAH for example the will of D nd it's revealed in manga that he is able to listen to the sea kings (just lyk Gol.D.Roger) nd ithink bcause of that ability luffy has to be shirahoshi's guide n because of him her ability was activated(when luffy started destroying NOAH this is when he guided her for the first tym)):cool:

nd luffy has to do something afterwards with the NOAH aswell when the truth of the "void century" is revealed
i can also deduce that "NAVY" did something horrible in that void century(somewhat lyk at the time of "the war of the best" they got pirates surrounded by wall nd killed by shakazuki instead of fighting head on NOTE: they stopped the transmission to hide their cowardlyness :mad:)

Note: all the people's ohara are killed B'cause they were the only once who can read the history according to navy

and at some point someone said(i think whitebeard said) that their will be a day a man will challenge the whole world to fight nd at that day whole world will turn upside down(or something lyk that) i think its luffy cuz he's also got the ability to listen nd i think at that day NOAH will be put to its true use

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what say ?
 
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