no reiatsu theory.

[Kawagiri]

aizen is only assuming the reason why no reiatsu is felt is because ichigo cast it off to increase strength, but last night i thought of another reason why reiatsu couldn't be felt.

everyone remember this?

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lots of spirit power leaks from ichigo, so he's not using full power... at that point he was using almost no power.


now, if learning to control it means you can increase power then how about this theory...


what if reiatsu being felt is the leaking of spiritual power. call it a fail-safe if you will...
if you keep pumping water into a sealed metal container pressure builds up until the point the container would explode.

the leaking of this spiritual power could be a way to limit the pressure to stop the vessel exploding, as you use more power, more will appear to leak out however the power built up inside will be stronger due to the vast amount stored inside.


if for some reason it was created so that no energy leaked out, then his reiatsu may not be sensed, however the power inside him could build up to dangerous levels which in turn could harm the user.



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how does this fit in?

zangetsu wishes to protect something different to ichigo~

yes, ichigo wishes to protect karakura but not himself, however zangetsu would either not want ichigo to die from the pressure of the built up energy, or if ichigo loses his power because of this then zangetsu wouldn't exist until ichigo gained his powers again (like isshin)


but that doesn't explain why building up power could make him lose all his power does it?
well it's quite simple, if ichigo uses up all his power at once, he'll only have it for a short time and may completely use all his energy, taking it a long time to come back, much like isshin, or the damage caused to himself could damage his soul in a way it would be hard or long for his powers to return.

that's why i believe ichigo said he'll finish it in an instant, because he's using all his power at once, therefore only having a limitted reserve or the pressure would be too great... either theory works fine.

 

[RokuNR]

Your theory has confused me.
I suppose I understand the basic overview of what you're saying, but to me it makes little sense as to why his reiatsu cannot be felt according to your theory. Even if the reiatsu has built up to the very limit within him, but is not leaking, Aizen should still be able to sense Ichigo's reiatsu. O_O

 

[Kawagiri]

Your theory has confused me.
I suppose I understand the basic overview of what you're saying, but to me it makes little sense as to why his reiatsu cannot be felt according to your theory. Even if the reiatsu has built up to the very limit within him, but is not leaking, Aizen should still be able to sense Ichigo's reiatsu. O_O

the whole premise is based on a theory that reiatsu people can feel is only that which is leaked to help keep the user from exceeding safe limits.

 

[Law]

so what u mean is that ichigo is using every single bit of reiatsu which leads to a state where he doesnt leak any. even so it can be bad for him if his soul or body can take the preasure of that power.

 

[Kawagiri]

so what u mean is that ichigo is using every single bit of reiatsu which leads to a state where he doesnt leak any. even so it can be bad for him if his soul or body can take the preasure of that power.

pretty much :|

if he doesn't use that power he'd probably die also from the buildup... if the theory rings true :|

well slightly different... i think rather than using all so none leak, it's more like a state where it can't leak... like turning off the tap :|

 

[Law]

i see. . . seems possible. . . and its not like ichigo explained what kind of thing he achieved. i am currious to know what happened while he was training. . . he changed quite a bit.

 

[nickoking]

ichigo's zanpakuto eats his reiatsu, e.g. getsuga tenshou, eats a ton of it and fires a blast of it at an enemy. i think this 'final getsuga tenshou' just means that ichigo has fully mastered his weapon, and instead of eating his reiatsu and firing it, it eats ALL of it and converts it into raw power. this explains how he could have gotten so powerful, and why no one can sense any reiatsu from him.

 

[Crutch Kaguya]

Your theory seems possible but is confusing.
Now you're saying that the sensing of reitsu is because of the reitsu that leaks out. So, if Ichigo were to stop reitsu from leaking out then that would make him unsensible.

The extent and the ability itself of his final technique is unexplained so the no reitsu could be caused by various reasons.

 

[Vizard]

I think the final getsuga is like the normal getsuga in a way. the normal getsuga ist reiatsu converted into the attack. so the final getsuga is reiatsu converted into physical strenght. the getsuga tenshou( that black stuff that comes out of ichigos zanpakuto) itself cannot be felt as reiatsu, so thats why aizen feels no reiatsu from ichigo in final getsuga mode. Its like an attack which lasts "longer"

 

[Atrocitus]

I think ichigo needs to suck in all his reiatsu, so none of it is leaking for his final getsuga tensho. Remember Getsuga tensho takes some of ichigo's reiatsu and turns into a blast. Maybe zangetsu taught ichigo to pent up all the reiatsu for this technique?

 

[Kawagiri]

I think ichigo needs to suck in all his reiatsu, so none of it is leaking for his final getsuga tensho. Remember Getsuga tensho takes some of ichigo's reiatsu and turns into a blast. Maybe zangetsu taught ichigo to pent up all the reiatsu for this technique?

someone finally understands where my theory comes from O_O



and to all those that thought he'd lost his reiatsu already i shall say ha! and another ha!

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[BlacKing]

Good theory. I concur. Sounds quite plausible actually. No reiatsu leaks out so there is no reiatsu to be sensed. Becuz none leaks out, it causes a strain on Ichigo's body/soul, Which is why he has to let it all go at once to release all of the pressure that would kill him, where if he let it out like a faucet, it would be considerably getting weaker the longer he kept the faucet on..............................................

Hmmmmmmmmm, Interesting. Interesting indeed sir.

 

[StealthShinobi]

plausible....

 

[BlacKing]

Why u stealing my word StealthShinobi

 

[Warlock Tigerwolf]

2 factors I think were left out of your theory, which I like.

A) Zangetsu already absorbs Ichigo's energy constantly. This is part of why it is always in shikai or higher.

B) With ichigo's Bankai, originally we thought his speed increased, yet this did not fit with his shikai like other zanpaktos do.

So take your theory a step further.

The hole isn't sealed, but is filling up another container that is. one that's just outside the original. none gets past this second container, for others to sense.

 

[katzan]

I guees Ichigo reach some new transformation. Giving the fact that Ichigo defeat the Sanpaktou and the hollow guy.

 

[Mr.Zero]

OUCH :flaw: my brain hurts

 

[Kushan]

aizen is only assuming the reason why no reiatsu is felt is because ichigo cast it off to increase strength, but last night i thought of another reason why reiatsu couldn't be felt.

everyone remember this?

Spoiler

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lots of spirit power leaks from ichigo, so he's not using full power... at that point he was using almost no power.


now, if learning to control it means you can increase power then how about this theory...


what if reiatsu being felt is the leaking of spiritual power. call it a fail-safe if you will...
if you keep pumping water into a sealed metal container pressure builds up until the point the container would explode.

the leaking of this spiritual power could be a way to limit the pressure to stop the vessel exploding, as you use more power, more will appear to leak out however the power built up inside will be stronger due to the vast amount stored inside.


if for some reason it was created so that no energy leaked out, then his reiatsu may not be sensed, however the power inside him could build up to dangerous levels which in turn could harm the user.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

how does this fit in?

zangetsu wishes to protect something different to ichigo~

yes, ichigo wishes to protect karakura but not himself, however zangetsu would either not want ichigo to die from the pressure of the built up energy, or if ichigo loses his power because of this then zangetsu wouldn't exist until ichigo gained his powers again (like isshin)


but that doesn't explain why building up power could make him lose all his power does it?
well it's quite simple, if ichigo uses up all his power at once, he'll only have it for a short time and may completely use all his energy, taking it a long time to come back, much like isshin, or the damage caused to himself could damage his soul in a way it would be hard or long for his powers to return.

that's why i believe ichigo said he'll finish it in an instant, because he's using all his power at once, therefore only having a limitted reserve or the pressure would be too great... either theory works fine.

I like this theory and actually when I think about it, it makes even more sense, it’s as if the reiatsu pressure of high level shinigami is felt when they summon more power, the more water you put in the pot the more it realises to maintain the pressure level (so to say), so what’s Ichigo has done is to perfect the mechanism, during his training he has manage to convert his 100% of his reiatsu in to power, thereby nullifying the phenomenon known as spirit pressure.

Nice theory there Kawagiri san!!!

 

[Kawagiri]

I like this theory and actually when I think about it, it makes even more sense, it’s as if the reiatsu pressure of high level shinigami is felt when they summon more power, the more water you put in the pot the more it realises to maintain the pressure level (so to say), so what’s Ichigo has done is to perfect the mechanism, during his training he has manage to convert his 100% of his reiatsu in to power, thereby nullifying the phenomenon known as spirit pressure.

Nice theory there Kawagiri san!!!

thankyou xd

 

[tidusz]

he got no more reiatsu coz..

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coz he gave up his shinigami power for something more powerful.. the power of Zangetsu.